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Kinder Morgan Energy Partners, L.P. Message Board

david4801 212 posts  |  Last Activity: 11 hours ago Member since: Sep 26, 1998
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    Wow, this board sure is quiet

    by kaptain_lou Aug 27, 2014 9:09 PM
    david4801 david4801 Aug 28, 2014 8:14 PM Flag

    Yes I currently own O. It is about the safest stock you could own. Paying dividends for all these years. I am months away from beginning to live off dividend income also. But my portfolio is more set and I recently took some profits and have increased my cash position. So we are at different points. Many income stocks are look to expensive right now and I am not looking to add to any positions at this point. Monthly dividends are nice, but you could make your own monthly income stream by investing in companies that pay quarterly, but in different months. So I would be looking at quality investments, monthly payments are not on the top of my list. you may want to loo at KMR. Soon to be taken over by parent KMI. It is trading at a discount to the takeover price.

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    Worst Places, continued

    by david4801 Aug 26, 2014 9:16 AM
    david4801 david4801 Aug 28, 2014 9:25 AM Flag

    Yes this is a hard time for those trying to survive in corp America. Companies spend billions to buy back stock and increase bottom line, and employees are just expenses.. HRB's price at all time high so why would they be listening to our complaints. High unemployment is a disaster for workers, And 401K to fund retirement will be a disaster for many (most?) as they are not funded enough. A few years back in our area in Fl hospitals were offering $5000 sign on bonuses for nurses when there was a shortage. But for the average worker 100 apply when there are openings for 2 positions. My wife retires this year after 15 years at United Health Care. We were diligent with 401K and IRA's, but with no pension really she is just 'giving notice' not retiring. She did get a $200 bonus for 15 years.

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    Worst Places, continued

    by david4801 Aug 26, 2014 9:16 AM
    david4801 david4801 Aug 28, 2014 9:15 AM Flag

    I agree with you. Block is NOT for those who want it as their primary income source. And I guess that is why they can get away with a lot. I don't track my hourly rate, only the dollars I make. I used to 'forget' to punch in some times and had a higher draw. Now I do better and get 'paid' less. People talk about 'pay' and 'bonus', but that is incorrect. We do not get paid or get a bonus. We are 100% commission and get a weekly draw. So I don't care if my hourly is $15 or $25. I moved to a new office two years ago, and in that time three long time preparers retired. I got a lot of new clients and now work more hours, but still just consider it a part time job. So again, if you want maximum pay, your best bet is to open your own business or work for a private company. If you like the flexibility then stick at HRB. Just because you are not seeking maximum pay, doesn't make you lazy or dumb. At age 66 my 'maximizing' goals are behind me.

  • Reply to

    Wow, this board sure is quiet

    by kaptain_lou Aug 27, 2014 9:09 PM
    david4801 david4801 Aug 28, 2014 8:27 AM Flag

    I had to hire 24 hour security to keep away the lynch mobs. But it was just the 'experts' who were up in arms. Now just waiting for the death spiral or the 52 week high for O. Otherwise not doing much. Took some profits and keeping the cash. Not much out there that is an attractive buy for income investors.

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    Worst Places, continued

    by david4801 Aug 26, 2014 9:16 AM
    david4801 david4801 Aug 26, 2014 7:54 PM Flag

    The board is about whatever anyone wants to post. Its just when I see all this lamenting about how HRB has changed as if it exists in a vacuum, well it just doesn't ring true. The company is part of corporate America, and uses the same methods. Anyone who has worked for one company for the last 25-30 years, is unhappy now. Times have changed

  • As a 15 year tax preparer, I have seen many of the changes written about. I have only worked in the computer era, so I do not have the same experiences of the 25-30 year people. I had offers to work elsewhere, but just wanted the convenience of the scheduling that Block provides so here I am. I think once the 'founders' leave a company changes and chances are old time employees will not like it. Or if you work for a big company attitudes have changed thru the years and now you are just another 'expense'. Sad, but that's the way it is. At least if you are a tax preparer you have the option to open your own business, or work for a small firm. But a manger at CVS, doesn't always have that chance. I have clients who are (or were) long time employees of Sears, Walgreens, Disney, United Health Care, Wendy's etc and they have the same complaints I am reading here.
    So what's my point. Things change. If you work for a big company the changes are not good for you. Whether it is work conditions, health care, vacations etc. Block is no different.than most other large companies. They want to maximize their profits, they don't want your opinions and that is that. So you can moan all you want about the 'good old days' in corporate America, but those days are NEVER coming back.

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    Ever Notice?

    by simpleman83313 Aug 25, 2014 8:08 PM
    david4801 david4801 Aug 26, 2014 9:01 AM Flag

    I guess you 'know' this from some survey. So please supply a link so we can enjoy the laugh. I wonder if the same could be said of former employees of Sear's, Walgreen's, Macy's, Disney etc?

  • david4801 david4801 Aug 20, 2014 2:44 PM Flag

    Yes I think the KMR option may be the way to go.

  • david4801 david4801 Aug 20, 2014 1:36 PM Flag

    notrab, KMR
    good idea why not suck as much out as it as possible.

  • david4801 david4801 Aug 20, 2014 1:08 PM Flag

    If I were to sell/buy at today's prices I would get about 238 KMI for every 100 KMP. If I wait until closing, and lets say KMI is $50 (that's about $120 for KMP) I would get 240 shares. So about $2000 more in cap gain. ($300 at 15% bracket) and get 2 fewer shares. (lose $100) so for every 100 shares you gain $200 net by selling today. Of course by waiting until the end your basis in KMI is higher so that may help down the road when you sell.

  • david4801 david4801 Aug 20, 2014 11:48 AM Flag

    then click 'sell all units- Estimate is for 2013. don't cry

  • david4801 david4801 Aug 20, 2014 11:46 AM Flag

    go to Kinder Morgan Investor relations. then-k-1 info-sign in or register-access tax package-click I agree-scroll down to bottom-it is on left.

  • david4801 david4801 Aug 20, 2014 11:39 AM Flag

    If you intend on holding on to your KMI shares. And invest the $10.77 in new KMI shares, then I think it is better to sell now and buy KMI instead. Either way you end up with about 240 KMI for every 100 KMP. If you sell today your cap gains are based on todays price of $98. If KMP would be $120 at close (and KMI would be about $50)---again you get same # of shares, but now you are paying cap gains on the sales price of $120. That's a big difference.
    On the other hand if you are not planning on keeping KMI, and think the price will be going higher---then sure you will have more cap gains later, but more money to spend on other choices.

  • Reply to

    What is per-share reinvest price?

    by markinct1000 Aug 19, 2014 10:32 PM
    david4801 david4801 Aug 20, 2014 9:33 AM Flag

    it will depend on the price at the closing day

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    it realy doesnt matter

    by thegreatone561 Aug 19, 2014 8:49 PM
    david4801 david4801 Aug 19, 2014 8:59 PM Flag

    But if you just plan to keep your KMI shares all you get from that $120 is extra capital gains tax. You don't get any additional shares. If you are planning to keep the shares you are better off selling now and buying KMI now before it goes any higher.

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    Sell at $120

    by jimpolicy Aug 19, 2014 10:01 AM
    david4801 david4801 Aug 19, 2014 11:05 AM Flag

    read my previous topic. If you want to convert to KMI, I think it is better to do it now. You will end up with more shares and lower tax liability. The higher KMI/KMP goes the worse it is for you.

  • So. If you like the deal, and plan on keeping your KMI shares, and buying more KMI with the $10.77---then the higher the price goes the WORSE it is for you. If you wait and KMI goes to lets say $50. So you will have $9 more of cap gains to pay tax on, but still get the same # of shares. Plus you will get fewer shares of KMI for your %10.77 at $50 than $41. And if you get the Oct dist it will lower your basis again and raise your tax. So it seems selling now and buying KMI at this level works best. Of course if you think KMI will sink back to $38 or lower-----well that's something else

  • Reply to

    Sweetened Offer

    by me_jade Aug 17, 2014 6:51 PM
    david4801 david4801 Aug 18, 2014 7:06 AM Flag

    The only way would be the one-in-a-billion chance it is voted down.

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    take a tax lose

    by jim_hairball Aug 17, 2014 11:17 PM
    david4801 david4801 Aug 18, 2014 7:05 AM Flag

    I am too nervous to wait to the end of the year. I am sending you $15,000 today. LOL

  • david4801 david4801 Aug 15, 2014 5:09 PM Flag

    at Friday's close =$101.50. highest close for week

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