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deanharmse 14 posts  |  Last Activity: May 10, 2016 7:30 AM Member since: Sep 14, 2011
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  • Reply to

    Hey Jeff, April's about gone! What happened?

    by willywankel Apr 26, 2016 12:54 PM
    deanharmse deanharmse May 10, 2016 7:30 AM Flag

    What happened? Business as usual happened.

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    by montyg_bailey May 4, 2016 5:17 PM
    deanharmse deanharmse May 6, 2016 2:45 AM Flag

    It doesn't really matter as neither Moller International nor Freedom Motors are revenue producing companies.

    The Freedom Motors offering has been happening 'soon' for years...

    The 'engine deal' with A-Life was announced with great fanfare, but to date no production scooter is on a road anywhere with a FM engine installed.

    The leaders of these companies are dreamers. I myself am a dreamer. These companies needs leaders that are both dreamers and doers.

  • deanharmse deanharmse May 4, 2016 11:37 AM Flag

    I'm not betting anything that the FM move means anything will happen. Google the article Sactown wrote about Moller in their June/July issue of 2013. That was the time Moller was on the verge of getting a $500 million cash injection from China. Now it's just more smoke...

  • Reply to

    DARPA Video

    by jhyoder1013 May 3, 2016 11:07 PM
    deanharmse deanharmse May 4, 2016 1:00 AM Flag


    I saw the video. It has not been out a long time. Moller did not throw their hat in the ring for this project. They did however present a proposal for DARPA's Transformer TX program. They were not successfull obviously. Their proposal was also not in line with what DARPA wanted, but rather what they decided DARPA should want. When the VTOL X-plane project came up (which I thought Moller had a better chance to compete for), I contacted the then General Manager, Bruce Calkins, an he told me they were not going to submit a proposal. That left me wondering if MI was still interested in actually succeeding. I don't think they would have been successfull, but at least trying would have showed shareholders that the company is still commited.

    As to the design DARPA chose in the end, I don't know, those guys are way smarter than me, so they must see & know something I don't...

  • deanharmse deanharmse May 3, 2016 2:01 AM Flag

    Nope, I got out a while ago. At 0.36 (I think) and I broke even. I did contemplate on getting back at 0.02, but I have better things to waste my money on.

    I am following this company because I am fascinated by the idea of personal VTOL aircraft since I can remember. When I started following this company they were the only ones that seriously pursued the idea.

    My other reason for following this company is my interest in business management. Their way of managing their businesses also fascinates me, but not in a good way.

  • deanharmse deanharmse Apr 28, 2016 2:46 AM Flag

    Yup, you guys should load up on shares. Your deserved reward for your wise decisions will definitely come...

  • Reply to

    Press Releases from MLER

    by rlcambria Apr 14, 2016 11:33 PM
    deanharmse deanharmse Apr 15, 2016 2:09 AM Flag

    I do not agree with you.

    I do not know how long you have been following Moller, but I suspect that it is not that long. I have been following them for more than 20 years now.

    In the past they have made many press releases, many announcements, many promises.

    Their problem is not releasing information. Their problem is following through.

    Do some searches.

    Flyboard Air
    Jetpack Aviation JB-9
    Ehang 184
    e-Volo Volocopter
    Pal-V one (or Pal-V Liberty)

    These companies/people doesn't make monthly or weekly PR's, but they released a video of their vehicle/device flying or they get seen by everybody while exhibiting at a Trade Show and suddenly they go viral.

    The flyboard Air video was released over the week-end and already they have two million Youtube hits and hundred's of articles written about them.

    Look at the Martin Aviation Company. Also a listed company. They release PR's, but they follow through. They exhibit at trade shows all over the world. They sign deals. They have demonstrated manned flights in front of crowds.

    My point is, all these listed above, have wowed people, investors and potential investors NOT by releasing PR's, but by releasing PROOF of their progress and development. Simply saying 'we have done this' in a statement doesn't fly in the modern world.

    A big gripe I have with Moller is that they are claiming to develop vehicles for the future, but they manage the companies like it's still the 80's.

    There are better ways to manage, market and create excitement these days. Youtube, Facebook, Twitter and Instagram is way more effective that doing radio shows at stations that mostly do shows about UFO's and ghosts...

  • The Martin Aircract company announced that they were replacing their custom made 4-stroke engines with Rotary Enginges.

    The supplier of the Rotary engines is Rotron, a division of Gilo Industries. Gilo industries also owns Parajet Paramotors. Parajet is behind the Skyrunner flying car and it's predecessor, the Parajet Skycar. Oh, and I own a Parajet Paramotor.

  • deanharmse by deanharmse Apr 12, 2016 10:01 AM Flag

    Another cool video popped up on the internet.

    The Zapata Racing Flyboard Air.

    A real Hoverboard. Not a 2 wheeled, prone-to-burst-into-flames thingy. Not a water-powered-attached-to-a-hose thingy. Not a needs-to-be-on-platform-where-the-electromagnets-will-work thingy.

    More of a they-will-pick-you-up-with-a-shovel-if-you-wipe-out thingy.

  • Reply to

    Volocopter VC200 first manned flight

    by deanharmse Apr 7, 2016 10:19 AM
    deanharmse deanharmse Apr 8, 2016 2:53 AM Flag

    I saw the video on a small screen yesterday, but later watched it in a bigger screen. Up and down control was done by the pilot's thumb on the "HAT" switch and not trigger as I first thought.

    The extremely simple controls and the hands off flying are two of the things everybody can take away from the video. That is the revolutionary part of what e-volo has achieved. Anybody with the minimum amount of training will be able to control the craft and hands-off flying in a helicopter is totally unheard of.

  • There is a video on youtube, those interested can google it.

    What I really liked was the fact that it looks like it is piloted with one hand only. For up and down it looked like the guy pressed buttons where the 'trigger' on a joystick is. Yawing is done by 'twisting' the stick and forward, back and rolling to a side is done by pushing a stick in a direction.

    Worth a watch.

  • Same old story...

  • deanharmse deanharmse Apr 4, 2016 2:38 AM Flag

    Wow, you're a stalker now Jeff?

  • Reply to


    by rlcambria Feb 23, 2016 6:08 PM
    deanharmse deanharmse Mar 8, 2016 6:53 AM Flag


    That is one of the most sensible responses I ever received from a Moller shareholder & fan. Thank you.

    I do not come to this page often anymore, but got an e-mail notification of your response. I also do not visit any other forum anymore, but I believe I read somewhere that Dr Moller, in a recent interview, did confirm that the Neuera will not be ready on April 1st as recently stated, but an additional 60 days would be needed. I may be completely wrong, but I believe I read it somewhere. If that is the case it is just more of the same. They are just not able to stick to their own timeline. Ever.

    About Zack being challenged on this and other forums, I am also not active enough to see that, but I do not think it is necessarily a bad thing. He does work in the public eye and he may learn from other people's views. Surely he must know Moller's history and I am talking of the 'bad' history in particular. If he wants to be a part of this show he needs to do what he can to change the negative image Moller has in the market place. It may be easy to get caught up in the fans's cheers and praise, but he does need to face the brutal facts as well. We would all like to wear special glasses that show only positive things in life, but those glasses might make us step off a ledge.

    What pains me about the competition is that there were none a few years ago and some have already passed Moller. Those that have not are running at a greater pace and will inevitably pass Moller, because yes, they do have and are securing the much needed funding to play this game. The fact that they are securing funds and Moller is not can unfortunately only be blamed on Moller self. The reputation they have for their repeated missteps might very well be their final undoing.

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