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deepharbor 563 posts  |  Last Activity: May 29, 2015 9:58 AM Member since: Dec 6, 2000
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  • Destroyed Obamacare in Order to Save it: Now that the Supreme Court is mulling over the latest conservative-backed challenge to the Affordable Care Act, with a decision likely in a matter of weeks, one group of experts, the American Academy of Actuaries, has taken a look at Republicans' "contingency plans" to fix things. And the nation's insurance wonks say we should be very afraid if the Roberts Court seizes on a technicality and eliminates the ACA subsidies. The Plum Line blog reports that the ideas the GOP has put on the table so far – temporarily continue the subsidies until (fingers crossed) a Republican president takes office and can repeal the whole thing, or force President Barack Obama to accept a host of changes, including repeal of the individual mandate, or use a veto that could kill his signature legislative accomplishment – would cause a health care meltdown with almost no one spared. Given that doomsday scenario, and a lack of a comprehensive Republican alternative for the ACA, the only legislatively responsible thing to do is work with Obama and the Democrats to fix things, which, from the looks of things, isn't going to happen.

  • deepharbor deepharbor May 29, 2015 9:28 AM Flag

    GOP membership has two nonnegotiable requirements, you must be stupid and you must be filled with hatred

  • deepharbor deepharbor May 29, 2015 9:22 AM Flag

    Came across this tea billie proposal
    A MODEST PROPOSAL to reform the health care system and provide many new benefits.
    This is a reasonable alternative to a single payers system or the ACA act.
    1. Repeal Obamacare and the expansion of medicaid.
    2. Stop paying for the uninsured and Illegals by the government or insurance companies.
    3. Make sure all people get appropriate treatment.
    3a. If a person cannot pay for the health care at the hospital they transfer him to the euthanasia ward for a quick and painless death.
    4. A panel of Insurance company Rep would decide who can afford regular treatment. Note this is a life panel, it picks out who will live.
    5. This plan would have a no negative cost since the organs of the euthanized would pay for the wards and treatment.
    Positives are
    The taxpayer are not stuck with the bill
    It would reduce the takers in society
    Relieve the pain and slow death of the ill
    Provide organs for those in need of organ transplants
    The government would be out of health care and benefit the givers of society.
    A huge cut in health care expense to society and the government,
    Big tax cuts and lower insurance rates
    Much better health care for those that receive it

  • deepharbor deepharbor May 29, 2015 8:44 AM Flag

    Politician from Texas, what a surprise. Texas is the #$%$ of America.

  • deepharbor deepharbor May 28, 2015 7:32 PM Flag

    what part of the 70% of the 767 billion that were tax cuts do you thing weren't stimulative, I thought you were a tea billie?

  • deepharbor by deepharbor May 28, 2015 1:10 PM Flag

    The poll also shows all the Republican candidates losing a general election matchup with the Democratic frontrunner, Hillary Clinton.

  • Reply to

    Here's a strange one

    by deepharbor_loves_smegma May 28, 2015 12:49 PM
    deepharbor deepharbor May 28, 2015 1:08 PM Flag

    tea billies, rarely right but never in doubt, LOL

  • deepharbor deepharbor May 28, 2015 12:46 PM Flag

    all the big market crashes have happened under Republican Presidencies

  • deepharbor by deepharbor May 28, 2015 12:45 PM Flag

    angry at Texas for treating the poor so badly.

  • deepharbor deepharbor May 28, 2015 12:44 PM Flag

    but Bush was white so it was ok,

  • Reply to

    Awwwe, yunior is vewy, vewy angwy again ...

    by proconsul_gallio May 28, 2015 12:18 PM
    deepharbor deepharbor May 28, 2015 12:34 PM Flag

    wait I thought I was alsmith?

  • deepharbor deepharbor May 27, 2015 3:20 PM Flag

    It was important for Bush to have binny run free, he needed a boogie man out there to keep the tea billies scared.

  • Reply to

    Ice is growing

    by therealrealjuniormagoo May 27, 2015 2:41 PM
    deepharbor deepharbor May 27, 2015 3:17 PM Flag

    Meanwhile in the real world people who have an iq over 70 believe NASA when it comes to science, tea billies believe college drop out radio hosts that are funded by the #$%$ brothers.
    There has been lots of talk lately about Antarctica and whether or not the continent's giant ice sheet is melting. One new paper 1, which states there’s less surface melting recently than in past years, has been cited as "proof" that there’s no global warming. Other evidence that the amount of sea ice around Antarctica seems to be increasing slightly 2-4 is being used in the same way. But both of these data points are misleading. Gravity data collected from space using NASA's Grace satellite show that Antarctica has been losing more than a hundred cubic kilometers (24 cubic miles) of ice each year since 2002. The latest data reveal that Antarctica is losing ice at an accelerating rate, too.

  • former leader of the Brooklyn branch of the Tea Party who once ran for office on a pledge to protect children admitted to possessing and trading child pornography, the New York Daily News reported.

    Prosecutors charged 38-year-old Joseph Hayon on Friday with “possession of a sexual performance of a child” after police seized five desktop computers, two laptop computers, a tablet, video cameras and a mobile phone.

  • Also: How would GOP governors react to this dynamic? Scott Walker (who is running for president, but could face serious political problems from a pro-King ruling, due to Wisconsin’s unique situation) has already signaled that he will demand the federal government fix the mess. As Walker himself helpfully puts it, if the court guts subsidies, GOP governors will face “incredible pressure” to do something about it, and will demand that Congress and the president act. If that happens, and Congressional Republicans can’t pass anything, the finger-pointing could only intensify.


    * WHY REPUBLICANS WORRY ABOUT ‘WINNING’ AT COURT: The Associated Press has a good report on why a court ruling nixing subsidies for millions could create big problems for Republicans:

    It’s Republicans — not White House officials — who have been talking about damage control. A likely reason: Twenty-six of the 34 states that would be most affected by the ruling have Republican governors, and 22 of the 24 GOP Senate seats up in 2016 are in those states.

    And states with the largest populations of people who might lose subsidies are also home to the most competitive Senate races: Florida, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin.

  • deepharbor deepharbor May 27, 2015 10:23 AM Flag

    I see you have yet another id deadpainting, how's that Hispanic outreach working for the GOP, should really help them in the next election, no? LOL

    In the wake of yesterday’s ruling upholding an injunction on Obama’s executive actions shielding millions of people from deportation, Bloomberg reports that immigration advocates are vowing to extract a steep price from Republicans in next year’s elections.

    Which raises the question: Will continued GOP opposition to Obama’s executive actions — as distinct from their foot-dragging on legislative reform — further complicate their efforts to do better than Mitt Romney among Latinos in 2016? Bloomberg notes:

    Backers of Obama’s action said the case will exacerbate frustration among Hispanic voters, an increasingly powerful bloc, and solidify their anger at Republican lawmakers who’ve thwarted changes to U.S. immigration law.

    “The GOP is trying to make this into some sort of legal issue about the president’s executive authority,” Frank Sharry, executive director of America’s Voice, a pro-immigration group, said in a telephone interview. For Hispanics, “It’s not going to be a debate about some abstract constitutional principle.”

    That is a key point. Republicans have long tried to frame the debate over Obama’s executive actions as purely about Obama’s lawless overreach. In reality, in voting to roll back those actions, House Republicans also voted to reverse the underlying enforcement priorities the President has instituted — priorities that focus more on removing serious offenders, while de-emphasizing the focus on removing undocumented immigrants who are low-level offenders and have jobs and longtime ties to communities.

  • Reply to

    Bush lied, a million people died

    by deepharbor May 26, 2015 6:36 PM
    deepharbor deepharbor May 27, 2015 10:10 AM Flag

    yeah even his briefer says Bush and Cheney lied, it wasn't bad intel, Bush and Cheney simply lied to start a war and get W reelected. So what if a million people died and 8 trillion dollars was wasted, at least Bush got reelected right?

    George W. Bush's CIA Briefer: Bush and Cheney Falsely Presented WMD Intelligence to Public
    On "Hardball," Michael Morell concedes the Bush administration misled the nation into the Iraq War.

  • deepharbor deepharbor May 27, 2015 10:06 AM Flag

    I think the only people who hope the supreme court overturns Obamacare more then the GOP is the DNC.
    If the Supreme court overturns Obamacare 16 million people lose health insurance. When it was being passed the GOP said they had to stop it because it would be political suicide to reverse it. Virtually all the States that will be affected are Red states. It changes if you like your doctor you can keep him, to you can't have a doctor. Yup it is GOP suicide, LOL enjoy it. If it is overturned all the red states turn blue, you know in the real world.

  • deepharbor deepharbor May 27, 2015 9:56 AM Flag

    Rand says some things that are pretty obvious if your iq is over 70

    Rand Paul: Republican brand 'sucks'

  • deepharbor deepharbor May 26, 2015 6:52 PM Flag

    Of course they won't fight for their own country, people here think about Iraq in the wrong way. The Middle East was divided into countries after WW2, they are not jingoistic like tea billies here are. The are more religious oriented then country oriented . When Britain divided it up they purposely put a Sunni in charge of it because the Sunni's were the minority and would have been all killed if the Shia were in charge. When W didn't read his fathers book and decided to invade he turned Iraq from Sunni control to Shia control (you know like Iran and Shia law right? LOL) Thus Bush basically took an enemy of our enemy and made them an ally of our enemy.

    Now the tea billies can't understand why Shia Iraqis won't kill Shia Iranians, cause well cause they are morons I guess.

    Then Wolfowitz made the second biggest mistake after Bush's moronic invasion. He dismantled the Iraq military, threw 3 million armed men out of work and created ISS. You know in the real world.

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