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dog01buck 68 posts  |  Last Activity: Aug 26, 2014 5:17 PM Member since: Sep 18, 2012
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  • dog01buck dog01buck Aug 26, 2014 5:17 PM Flag

    OK the stock is trading at $2 which is 80% of $2.50 but there have been no assurances from either company that the deal is still a "go".

    The sale and the terms are public and there has been no public representation by any party that the closing is in jeopardy in any fashion - so can ACP insiders BUY at this time based only upon on the shake out of "scared hands" without violating any SEC regs.......or are they "frozen"....?

  • that is over double the regular hours trading today....

  • dog01buck dog01buck Aug 23, 2014 2:14 PM Flag

    One good thing, is you do NOT see Mr. Pev refuting that he was 100% wrong....

    Granted, he may not "admit" the mistake (it take character to develop this ability) but at least he is not re-broadcasting the BS or backpedaling on his statement (like Harry).

    Ador however; does have his "head in the sand" - anything short of "full steam ahead" or "all is good" is deemed a short opinion by the same alias...

    How has that philosophy worked out so far Ador?

    Do you feel good about where you stand on your PWE investment......new lifetime low this week....?

    There was another selloff (I did not expect) on high volume Friday....

    That must have been me and all my aliases on a shorting spree...

    It sucks, but the best thing you can do (Ador) is to begin to pay attention.....how does your family feel about your long term investment here? ....do they know?

    I am significantly down here but I want correct information (good or bad)......harry is the board joke and Ador is pathetic.....

    Mr Pev...I assume you are foreign and English is not your first language BUT get it right or stick to the elements which you DO know (suck as the price fluctuations of natural gas) and you can contribute.....do not cheerlead....it does not suit you....

  • Reply to

    Harry caught in another lie

    by dog01buck Aug 23, 2014 11:13 AM
    dog01buck dog01buck Aug 23, 2014 2:00 PM Flag

    I am not spinning anything about future dividend because we don't know - same with guidance. Of course I hope it is maintained. production looked good in Q2. You got caught (in writing - you can't delete) in an UNMITIGATED LIE - end of story.

  • dog01buck dog01buck Aug 23, 2014 1:55 PM Flag

    I do understand what you are saying, and I am disagreeing with you completely.

    I believe my post was clear and not subject to misinterpretation.

    We can agree to disagree.

    I think our posts speak for themselves and we "are beating a dead horse" here.

    We agree on far too much to get caught up on semantics...

  • Reply to

    Harry caught in another lie

    by dog01buck Aug 23, 2014 11:13 AM
    dog01buck dog01buck Aug 23, 2014 12:09 PM Flag

    Harry, we completely understand your statement I am saying YOUR statement is a LIE.

    I believe that the substance of your LIE MAY VERY WELL come true - i.e. that the company WILL issue a statement and WILL pay a dividend in mid October

    BUT that result (desired) does not make you purported conversation with IR true.

    ANYONE WHO QUESTIONS THIS CAN GO TO THE COMANY WEBSITE AND SEND A ONE SENTENCE INQUIRY TO IR……the response will be crystal clear.

    They can NOT speculate on the dividend until the restatements are complete.

    Obviously, all of these class actions would make any "loose cannon" a liability.

    There is NO loose cannon - HARRY LIED ….yet again……

    I expect this all WILL occur (statement and then dividend) and when (if) it does, it will NOT convert Harry's LIE into a truth…..

    Again, anyone who wants my thread with IR can just shoot me an e-mail or contact IR - it won't take 2 minutes and the communication will be in writing…

    I am careful of replying to YOUR own post Harry because when you delete (obsessively) the replies get re-sorted…..

    You can KEEP swearing the conversation with IR occurred Harry. but it will not become a reality by continually repeating the LIE…..this is why you have no creditability on this Board…it is NOT why you are broke...

  • Reply to

    Harry caught in another lie

    by dog01buck Aug 23, 2014 11:13 AM
    dog01buck dog01buck Aug 23, 2014 11:32 AM Flag

    Do not back off your purported 1/2 conversation with IR harry -

    You said IR assured you of the dividend, I am saying this statement is a BLATANT LIE -

    I have contacted them myself (in writing) about the covenants and the dividend -

    They advised me they can not state the dividend is safe at this time (I personally believe that even a reduction in the dividend may hurt the stock price) but that (at the time of the tread with IR) the CFO was negotiating on the covenants.

    Later (after my e-mail exchange with IR) of course the covenants were resolved - anyone who cares, shoot me an e-mail and I will forward my threads…..

  • dog01buck dog01buck Aug 23, 2014 11:21 AM Flag

    I did mistakenly believe you were short (and I was incorrect).

    You, however, misread my sentence, it was not vague in the slightest and must be read in the context of the entire post….no "deconstruction" is needed.

    Just read it using English with common sense, the rest falls in place….don't "jump the gun" and hack out a post, delete it and re-write it - and then go back and say - "oops"…and try to cover your misstatement with gobbilygook - it comes out as gibberish - EOS

    Lesson to be learned - like Pev - it is FAR BETTER to step up and acknowledge a mistake, we all make them but (unless you delete like Harry) it is THERE for the world to see…..

    It IS "unfortunate" (for me as a "long") that Pev is wrong and you are correct because I would feel MUCH BETTER now knowing the dividend is "safe" - it is not safe (YET) but I believe it will be. and Roberts will protect it at all costs…..if not, there will another massive sell off...

  • Well - I know harry will delete his post immediately upon seeing mine SO I have "cut and paste" the relevant portion below. He states that IR told him the dividend is safe.

    Of course this (like his trades) his a lie.

    I HAVE IT IN WRITING - they said they will release the company's intentions as to the dividend as soon as the possibly can. They simply can not yet.

    AND IF anyone things harry is truthful (not too many here) just make the call to IR on Monday (or e-mail as I do) - they respond promptly and you will receive an immediate e-mail acknowledging receipt of your own….

    poor harry caught again - yes I know you would delete harry but here it is - right below….your most recent lie…you are broke….

    harrytcpw

    Reply to Mr. Pev's contention that the Company has stated that dividends are safe at this time by dog01buck •56 minutes ago
    harrytcpw • 5 minutes ago

    ohio, them jan 16-7 calls looks like a no brainer, not much premium an a better play than the march 15- 7 calls at a buck, might need to set a option account next week.. My talk with investor relations in my 30 minute conversation that we will get paid our DIV about mid OCT an their working to announce some news a few weeks before the oct 14th deadline,,,,

  • dog01buck dog01buck Aug 23, 2014 10:57 AM Flag

    He believes that I am another poster using an additional alias.

    If you are remotely articulate and not a "die hard" and blind "cheerleader" then you MUST be the same poster (under an alias) - convinced there couldn't be more than one intellect on this board who refuses to cheerlead….

    It is all a bit sad.

    I have a buddy in the '16 leaps - glad you are long - I am shooting you an e-mail to your yahoo e-mail address...

  • dog01buck dog01buck Aug 23, 2014 10:52 AM Flag

    I am not sure we are truly disagreeing here. You may need to re-read my post (or perhaps my post is unclear).

    I never suggested that posting accurate fact information is "unfortunate".

    BUT I would prefer NO information rather than BAD information…,

    I used the word "unfortunate" and then I explain why - I am re-posting me original reply below (because you deleted and corrected you regional post - and despite my "dig", you DO have common sense….)

    I mistakenly believed I was dealing with a "harry" - he frequently makes stupid posts then is called out and then deletes them all and then turtles up - i.e. disgraced again…he has lost all of his money on margin…I would be VERY surprised if he (harry) has 1000 shares….

    "Why is it unfortunate" - well if you were long (as you contend), then you would know…..I said that you are correct (i.e. that PWE has issued no statement stating the dividends are safe) and that Pev is putting out misinformation.

    If Pev's contention was "TRUE" - there would be less selling now as investors could kick back and wait it out with their income somewhat secure.

    This is not the situation - and that (for a "long" like me) is "unfortunate" - it really isn't that complicated to follow if you have common sense....

  • dog01buck dog01buck Aug 23, 2014 10:36 AM Flag

    "Why is it unfortunate" - well if you were long (as you contend), then you would know…..I said that you are correct (i.e. PWE has issued no statement stating the dividends are safe) and that Pev is putting out misinformation.

    If Pev's contention was "TRUE" - there would be less selling now as investors could kick back and wait it out with their income somewhat secure.

    This is not the situation - and that (for a "long" like me) is "unfortunate" - it really isn't that complicated to follow if you have common sense......

  • Of course (and unfortunately) Ohio white bear is correct here - thread is getting to damn long.

    This is hardly a grey area.

    Unlike Ohio, I am long.

    To say that the company has intimated (much less stated) that the dividends (or portions thereof) are not in jeopardy as a consequence of the restatements is simply not accurate.

    I fully hope (and expect) that the dividends will be fine BUT that expectation is not based upon an existing company statement - to the contrary

    Bottom line is that IF the dividend was "secure" at this time, the stock would immediately rise - we simply do not know.

    I feel as if Mr. Pev (unlike Harry) DOES frequently bring something substantively to this Board. That being said, it is still a "Yahoo Board " (i.e. it sucks) with mostly cheerleaders and shorties….

    Misinformation is worse than no information..

    The test of Mr. Pev (character) as a poster is whether he will admit he was wrong (he already recognizes this privately - his head is not "in the sand") - and that at this moment in time, the company has NOWHERE suggested the dividends are safe.

    We already know this to be true - believe me, IF the dividend is subsequently assured by PWE, it WILL be in a PR statement and in many articles and message boards) - unfortunately, it is the unknown status which has contributed to the fall in share price.

  • Reply to

    Bear raid on high volume again today

    by mrpev Aug 22, 2014 1:44 PM
    dog01buck dog01buck Aug 22, 2014 7:20 PM Flag

    I am long Mr Pev. Please show me (specifically) where ihe company clearly states the restatement "will not affect cash flows".

  • dog01buck by dog01buck Jul 21, 2014 4:13 PM Flag

    but at least I am not in denial. This is NOT sector wide. The selling in high volume is company (PWE) specific. We have been a down trend for the last 30 days straight. Tragically, we have seen a collapse in the last month all the way back to where the PWE share price was in mid April.....chart reflects a much steeper angle on the decline....weary of it, no end in sight, but not selling....

  • dog01buck by dog01buck Jul 18, 2014 1:33 PM Flag

    Not a shock….since your "knee jerk" (excuse the punn) reaction to my post was to immediately delete every post in your existence, and since I was "replying" to you, my own post will only appear under "Messages" and not under "Topics" SO I "cut and paste" the entire post directly underneath…..

    Hawwy - your insecurity is showing....since so many on the Board recognize YOU as a sham, you have to console yourself by saying all the "thumbs downs" are alias posters......

    Yeah, that has to be it Hawwy.....it can't be you persecution complex.....must have been particularly devastating when not one single poster stepped up and said that they bought in to your voluminous trade recitations…….

    Obviously, your credibility dropped dramatically on this message board when you posted (and subsequently deleted) that you were fully leveraged on PWE in margin in the mid 9’s.

    You incessantly post about “big boys”, “gap up”, “gap down”, but all of your thoughts are complete gibberish – you purportedly keep adding each day at the low BUT obviously your broker sold you out on a margin call.

    I am LONG here, and I DO respect the posts of Mr. Pev and Ador BUT NOT YOU.

    You (alone) have no idea what you are talking about and have lost your BUTT on margin and trying to trade an investment stock.

    You look like the "Board Fool" and when I inquired of this entire message board if ANYONE believed your postings, the response (or lack thereof) was unanimous – not even one poster….....poor Broke Hawwy....there exists a company which he cherishes but can't hold the stock for getting abused on margin.

    It must be those AWFUL BIG BOYS Hawwy......they are so mean....reducing the price by manipulation and forcing you to sell........(you wouldn't have HAD to sell Hawwy....it is the margin.....)...none of us have to sell....we can patiently wait it out.........the daily fluctuations have destroyed your portfolio alone.....

    You should never have acknowledged you were "ALL IN ON MARGIN" Hawwy

  • Reply to

    Analyst Raises PWE target

    by dog01buck Jul 18, 2014 10:18 AM
    dog01buck dog01buck Jul 18, 2014 12:28 PM Flag

    Hawwy - your insecurity is showing....since so many on the Board recognize YOU as a sham, you have to console yourself by saying all the "thumbs downs" are alias posters......

    Yeah, that has to be it Hawwy.....it can't be you persecution complex.....must have been particularly devastating when not one single poster stepped up and said that they bought in to your voluminous trade recitations…….

    Obviously, your credibility dropped dramatically on this message board when you posted (and subsequently deleted) that you were fully leveraged on PWE in margin in the mid 9’s.

    You incessantly post about “big boys”, “gap up”, “gap down”, but all of your thoughts are complete gibberish – you purportedly keep adding each day at the low BUT obviously your broker sold you out on a margin call.

    I am LONG here, and I DO respect the posts of Mr. Pev and Ador BUT NOT YOU.

    You (alone) have no idea what you are talking about and have lost your BUTT on margin and trying to trade an investment stock.

    You look like the "Board Fool" and when I inquired of this entire message board if ANYONE believed your postings, the response (or lack thereof) was unanimous – not even one poster….....poor Broke Hawwy....there exists a company which he cherishes but can't hold the stock for getting abused on margin.

    It must be those AWFUL BIG BOYS Hawwy......they are so mean....reducing the price by manipulation and forcing you to sell........(you wouldn't have HAD to sell Hawwy....it is the margin.....)...none of us have to sell....we can patiently wait it out.........the daily fluctuations have destroyed your portfolio alone.....

    You should never have acknowledged you were "ALL IN ON MARGIN" Hawwy - your words - you deleted BUT we read it - sold out on a margin call......very sad.

  • Reply to

    Analyst Raises PWE target

    by dog01buck Jul 18, 2014 10:18 AM
    dog01buck dog01buck Jul 18, 2014 12:03 PM Flag

    From my brokerage acct - you can not link to it (you will just get Schwab "log in" page)

    It is on My Schwab account under the following heading - perhaps you can Google - do not know

    CANADA RESEARCH ROUNDUP-Barrick Gold, Quebecor, Canadian Natural Resources

  • * Penn West Petroleum : CIBC raises target to C$12.50 from C$12; sector performer

  • Reply to

    Clown alert

    by auramenko Jul 14, 2014 7:17 PM
    dog01buck dog01buck Jul 15, 2014 11:20 AM Flag

    WELL - there it is - no support whatsoever Hawwy -

    There is NOT ONE person on this Board EVER believed your BS trading reports and this truly is NOT news to anyone BUT YOU....

    M.r Pev has not reported receiving the screen print of your brokerage account reflecting any Citi holdings....more fiction Hawwy...more fantasy...

    There is truly no reason to be humiliated Hawwy, because no one here is shocked EXCEPT YOU.

    It isn't as if "the emperor has no clothes" - it is just YOU - the court jester - the buffoon if you will.....

    Margin sucks Hawwy when a stock is dropping....... doesn't it Hawwy?

GNW
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