Was Mikey's problem with me not capitalizing god the fact that he though that I was spelling his name in lower case????
HMMMMM after all he is the board narcissist, that just might be reason.
Forest for the trees, talk about the pot calling the kettle black.
I freely admitted to using your tactics to steer the conversation, you on the other hand cannot admit when you have lied or been wrong, presumably because of your deep seated narcissism.It must cause you physical pain to admit lies or mistakes and therefore you cannot learn or change direction on anything.
I can still remember you accusing me of being a trader (must be a dirty word to you) when I talked about making money on two out of the last three pops in the stock.In addition I admitted to making a mistake (something you would never admit to doing) by leaving money on the table in the last pop and waiting for the numbers.You see I am both an investor and a trader, some stocks I have held over 25 years (cl) others over 5 (hain), but their are other stocks that I trade within a range. I would think that most people invest in a similar manner.
On the other hand lying narcissistic homers who use terms of familiarity to pretend that they have some sort of insight are the biggest idiots on these board.
It is beyond humorous to see you still argue the 7% number as it has already been proven incorrect using common sense. When using only 4 points of reference like you did you only get 3 quarters of sales increase, not a full year. If you are too dumb to understand that basic math you a bigger fool than I thought.
Feel free to try and spell check and cut and paste your way out of the basic fact that your math was wrong!!!!
How cute the minions have come out to play.
You seem to have ignored the most important claim that Fat Mikey is a bold faced liar that is unwilling or unable to admit when he is wrong.
The most obvious example is his claim that annual sales were only rising 7%. ROFLMAO
When the obvious mistake in his math was pointed out his response was no way i am right , I can't be wrong.
Nothing like being the self proclaimed super genius of the board.
I tried to us comic book references to stay in them with the hulk paraphrase
I find it a little funny that the yahoo chart only goes back 14 years and your seeming intimate knowledge of the company goes back 24.
Such intimate knowledge , but no connection to the company, scouts honor. Another grand putz
Another profound post from the village idjut.
Wow you can read a stock ticker , sheer genius.
Here is a simple idea for you to try.
If you have nothing to post , try not posting for a change, trust me the board could go a day or two without you posting the same useless garbage over and over and over.
Trust me, if people decide to dis regard your genius ideas the first 30 times you post them, 50 more posts will not sway them to your genius, it will just confirm their first impressions.
Whatta tool !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You are too f-ing predictable.
Thank you for validating the other thread that I started stating the board tool would try and show some self important superiority by going for a spell check.
You truly are a tool and by quoting buckley jr, you give yourself away as an erudite self important d-bag who is unable to admit they are wrong even when it is as obvious as can be.
Gee you must be right , never would have guessed the king of cutting and pasting the notes from the companies reports would have enough free time to bother looking it up and cutting and pasting tonight. I only had to poke you with it 3 or 4 times to get you to scurry off and cut and paste. What a tool!!!!!
"You are debating topics that were not under discussion…"
Look at the little board troll so happy with himself for using California shield laws for a message board to not have to respond about the veracity of his posts in court trying to get all formal!!!!!! ROFLMAO
Oh my god did he turn over a new leaf ,the board liar is trying to bring civility and order to an anonymous message board.
Is that from Roberts Rules of law ,or your high school debate team handbook?
I am always willing to debate directly with anyone who will do the same,but when I encounter d-bag who lie constantly, misrepresents results and tries to redirect after being called out I no longer feel the need to adhere to any narrow definition of a discussion.
I freely admit to lying about the settlement so that I could point out the extra half a million that was paid down ion the AP line item in the quarter.
Is the board wittle d-bag upset that someone does not want to follow his rules of argument. WAAAAAAAAA you need to go call a wambulance and have your boo boo taken care of.
Damn, you are slow.
I was beginning to think you would not figure it out.
If I had come out and said some of the cash flow had gone to paying down AP you would have said the number was not significant.
Lets take a look, AP at the end of June 7,753,911 and at the end of September 7,632,634 for a drop of 121, 268
Since the money spent was not put towards the 410,000 settlement money,it must have been spent on other accounts payable.
That means during the quarter the company payed down accounts payable ex the settlement 531,268
That adds another half a million of negative cash flow that went to something positive . Add it to the value of increased inventory and the increase in financed receivables and they are getting to a few million in negative cash flow that does not bother me at all.
I do not care whether the over half a million dollars in pay down of the AP went the settlement or other bills. You stay fixated on the settlement all you want
Go on and cling to the idea of the settlement with Coke being the end of the line.
Your desperation can be seen in the repetitive nature of your posts and you need to drown the board in your dreck.
The village idjut is claiming that the 410,000 being put aside for a settlement is sitting in the cash column despite the company specifically stating the amount was entered on a line item that would negatively effect cash flow.
I think he needs to contact the SEC and report the company for using his special accounting rules instead of GAAP rules!!!!! ROFLMAO
Because you say it so emphatically it must be so!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL
Once again his reasoning is that the check has not been cut.
The question in regard to cash flow is, was the 410,000 (the total amount from last quarter) placed in a line that is included in cash flow (the question he will not answer). If it was it is already in the numbers!!!!! Whatta tool
Are cost of goods sold included in the GAAP cash flow numbers or not?????
Since you seem unable or unwilling to answer the simple question, I will answer it for you.
Yes the cost of goods sold are included in cash flow.
If the last 400,000 being put aside for any settlement was run through cost of goods sold on the quarterly it has already been addressed on the books.
By the way fool what happened to the huge settlement?????
You and your ID's were screaming about over a million dollar lawsuit and screaming about how it was going to cost well into the millions????
Why such a shortfall??
Coke is not the companies biggest customer and has not been one in quite awhile. The best thing about the whole situation from what I see is that when business ended with Coke the sales growth only dropped to the 15% to 20% rate. The company did not seem to miss a beat losing it's "biggest"
customer, not many companies can say that.
Total Liabilities UP4M?
Year over year total liabilities up 632, 628 (not 4 million)
Year over year total assets up 710,476
That is almost as accurate as your continued claim that sales are only rising 7% ROFLMA
He seems to be so afraid of the truth, willing to lie over and over.
Add to that the fact that he continues to cut , past and post the same redundant garbage over and over and most of the people realize he has run out of things to say.
In his dreams he sees 7% sales increases and is unwilling to believe or except any other numbers.
He will continue to contend that the 410,000 that was put aside last quarter did not come out of cash flow (I believe his argument was that a check had not been written yet) despite the fact that in it's own filings the company stated
"$410,000 of this amount was recorded in the three months ended September 30, 2014 and is reflected in Cost of Services in the Consolidated Statements of Operations. “
Showing up as cost of services means that 410,000 would be charged to the cash flow under GAAP.
(Unless of course they used a different cost of services number in the 10Q)
So would that mean ex one time items the negative cash flow would drop to a million?
Would that also mean without the one time charge the growth in gross profit in the first quarter was enough to cover the new lease payments and match the gross from the prior year?
No wonder he wants to pretend that the 15% to 20% sales increases the company is reporting are not happening.
Take away the one time charge an there is still a 1 million dollar negative cash flow, what could cause that ?
Well, from quarter to quarter they increased the inventory on their books ( not in the investment section, but inventory , which has an effect on cash flow) about 1.15 million. If they keep inventory on hand even going forward the cash flow would move to 150 thousand positive.
In addition while it has a short term negative effect on cash flow the 600,000 increase in non current financial receivables should help them in future quarters as the customers have to pay for their financed equipment.
No No don't dig into the companies numbers, that would make too much sense.Listen to Mikey.
It is not just price, but supply.
Even though when OPEC usually changes a quota number most of the countries only follow the numbers for a month or 2, they are not even trying to pretend this time.
They seem to be willing to say that they want to continue the oversupply to knock high price producers out of the market (think oil sands and also highly leveraged smaller outfits)
Demand only has to drop slightly at the margins to have any effect on stocks( remember this level over supply is not meeting need, but is an oversupply of the market).
If this plays out like the oversupply in shipping capacity and some of the commodities that have had their bubbles popped recently by massive capital investment this could be a long term issue( about 15% of high yield debt out there is connected to the oil industry.
On the other hand if it plays out more like the oil price drop in the 90s that bottomed in 98, there will be a great time to buy in to all of the oil and oil services companies, but it might still be a little early.
Look at the history like any of the big commodities oil follows a pattern of real booms and busts and it is in the middle of a real shake out of the companies that have too high a production cost or are too leveraged.
Sparkling rain launched in 1993, nothing like an overnight sensation that takes 20 years to arrive.
The funniest thing is that the Talking Rain success story is the anti cult of CEO story while you seem enamored with trying to get a superstar CEO to make something magical happen.
Talking Rain is the perfect cautionary tale about bringing in a high profile CEO.
Before the current CEO the company brought in Bill Meissner ( some people might recognize him as the man who ran Jones soda practically into the ground)
He introduced new products and promptly ran through 35 million dollars of the companies money. After Meissner left the company in shambles he mentioned in an interview while joining Jones that he left his prior company because the company would not spend enough to succeed.
After the top 3 executives left the company it was not in that great a shape and they were not in a position to look for another celebrity CEO.Instead they promoted an operations guy with an engineering background (no MBA or marketing guru) from within the company.
The first thing the new boss did was kill the new products introduced by Meissner and push the Sparkling Ice product (introduced in 1993) that had been popular regionally back into the distribution channels.Before doing this they made changes to the labeling and changed the formulation slightly.
The company seemed to have perfect timing as not only were soda sales dropping, but so were diet soda sales as people were worrying about the artificial sweeteners.The amazing thing is that they seem to have convinced people that fruity diet sodas were actually
sparkling waters, which usually do not contain said artificial sweeteners.
The numbers are amazing, but it appears to be more and example of a competent leader being able to handle the companies catching lightning in a bottle by building out the distribution network as the product exploded as opposed to someone building a brand using a some sort of repeatable growth model
one of the village idjuts need to cut back on the caffeine.
I have only made money on 2 of the pops and even admitted the mistake when I decided to hols on the third.
I have no problem making that claim as I posted about the transactions in advance.
You keep screaming about the 20 year record, because everyone knows that you cannot scream about the 5 year record (maybe the 5 year + record LOL) as the stock has been range bound through the whole period.
If you want to know what the average reader of the board thinks about your posts all you have to do is read Racers posts about the stock going to the moon or about how it is about to go up a few hundred percent and then decide what you think about the post. That is what the average poster thinks about Fat Mikey and the gangs barrage of lies.
The typical board d-bag is the spell check king calling people stupid for keystroke errors with nothing else to say, they post the same thing over and over while on many occasions the claims within the post get more and more outlandish ( at about 2000 post we are about half way to the total posts that I expect to see about the coke situations from the fools who really have nothing left to say) and they will post 100 times a day, often resorting to posting the same thing over and over again in an attempt to monopolize the board.
If these 3 characteristics seem to describe you, take a look in the mirror, you are looking at the board d-bag.
Fat Mickey is always willing to point out how the lawsuit was lost by the company because the anonymity of the poster was protected in the case in question.
He never will address the claim by Racer that he is the ex board member that was forced out of the company a few years ago after trying to exert control over the board of directors. The company stated the reason for not going in the direction that the board member wanted was the stock performance of another company that the person had been able to gain control of.
It would be kind of sad if he was the ex board member that had been kicked to the curb. If that is the case he seems to have quire a bit of free time on his hands today.
After all it is a pretty big step down from the board of directors to the anonymous yahoo board.
I would have thought that it was good old fashioned tape painting if it was not 26,230 shares trading at that price.
There was a trade for 1000 shares at 1.53 after hours that is not showing on the summary screen.
It will be interesting to se which price point the opening trades anchor to tomorrow.
Not very h#$%$rd he lies const#$%$ntly, but like most n#$%$rcissistic fools will try to redirect when c#$%$lled out!!
Looks like you #$%$re h#$%$ving #$%$ seizure little tool.
You #$%$re #$%$ lying li#$%$r who w#$%$s c#$%$lled out on #$%$nother lie #$%$nd just tried to spin of to spew more bs.
Simple #$%$ttempt #$%$t redirection #$%$t redirection #$%$fter being c#$%$lled out #$%$g#$%$in #$%$s the li#$%$r you #$%$re.