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The Hain Celestial Group, Inc. Message Board

dogma_blade 81 posts  |  Last Activity: 6 hours ago Member since: Feb 16, 2010
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  • It is starting to look as though sales will be increasing over last year in the second quarter.

    I am basing this on how quickly the product seems to be turning, especially at retailer where the product is priced at 3.99. Not only does the product appear to be moving , but more importantly the restock orders appear to be hitting the shelves in a timely manor.

    On a smaller note, after being gone for over a year the bags of ginger crystal started to show up in stores again at the end of May.

  • dogma_blade dogma_blade 7 hours ago Flag

    Bad mouthing something without knowing any of the facts? what a shock!!!

    10th grade business class say's that this might be a bad promotion if Jones soda has to pay for the car at even a discounted price, on the other hand if their partner Fiat is providing a free car to be used in the promotion it appears to be a great deal for Jones as it seems as though they are only required to promote the contest on their websites and not pay for any major external advertising.

    Years ago I was involved with a company that gave away an El Camino filled with outdoor gear in one year, a Harley in another and we gave away free items to performers to wear in an attempt to build awareness of a brand. These approaches were much cheaper, had longer impact and had more bang for the buck than traditional adds when handled properly.

    Do you know whether the car was provided free of charge by Fiat or not?

  • Reply to

    Bull market

    by bingbongdoodiehead Jun 21, 2016 11:59 AM
    dogma_blade dogma_blade Jun 21, 2016 3:19 PM Flag

    Actually the stock is above the price that it was on the day that Lehman filed for bankruptcy and well above the price it was at when the market as a whole bottomed in March of 2009.

    Due to the run up so far this year USATs stock performance has outperformed all of the major indexes since the bottom of the economic downturn.

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    ot $1.75

    by boardwalk97 Jun 13, 2016 10:52 AM
    dogma_blade dogma_blade Jun 15, 2016 11:55 AM Flag

    You love to see yourself post.

    Why not just post the numbers that you see in the ks and the qs.

    You do not seem to be able to back up any of your bs, but are pretty good at attacking people.

    If you had been able to produce proof you would have done it and not attacked.

  • Reply to

    ot $1.75

    by boardwalk97 Jun 13, 2016 10:52 AM
    dogma_blade dogma_blade Jun 14, 2016 5:21 PM Flag

    The question was very simple.

    It is pretty obvious you have no information on the companies marketing at all.

    I do understand, I want any information that I can get about the company and you for some reason want to brag on an anonymous board.

    If anyone wants to see your history all they have to do is go back to see you extolling the virtues of lifeway at the high and claiming you were out of celh when sales dropped last quarter, but becoming a cheerleader again when the stock only dropped a little.

    Unlike you who loves to claim that you have never lost a penny on a stock (anyone who has invested in full portfolio knows what a crock of s that is,somebody that perfect would have no need to be on this board) I do not mind saying when I am underwater.I currently have a price point in the 3.60 range and that is only because I bought more shares on the way down.As long as the company can refill the orders this summer I feel pretty confident that the stock will be moving up as the quarterly numbers come in.

    My issue with you is your bs claims about things that you have no knowledge. You have no knowledge of the companies advertising spend and do you really think you don't seem foolish that you claim to have gotten a WFM store manage to pull year over year comparative sales numbers the Reed's skus.

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    ot $1.75

    by boardwalk97 Jun 13, 2016 10:52 AM
    dogma_blade dogma_blade Jun 14, 2016 1:32 PM Flag

    When the truth does not work, try and baffle with bs. HAHAHA

    So they are no longer running out of money, but you claim they will go through all of it before the end of this month, very honest assessment.

    You keep claiming that they have hadto cut back on promotion but are unable to point out where.They still sponsor people, go to events to give out samples, go to trade shows ,do co-op sale promotions when they put the product on sale and have finally started using the internet to market more.

    The only pull back in advertising that I see is that they stopped advertising the Kombucha in Veg Times.

    Please enlighten us all. Tell us where they have pulled back on marketing , be specific if you actually know anything.If you don't feel free to continue blowing smoke out of your #$%$.

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    ot $1.75

    by boardwalk97 Jun 13, 2016 10:52 AM
    dogma_blade dogma_blade Jun 14, 2016 9:56 AM Flag

    They have no cash?????????

    I thought that the stock had dropped because the company raised over 2 million by selling stock and options.

    Please clarify how they are out of cash.

  • Reply to

    Growth Everywhere!

    by michael_moore_is_fat Jun 10, 2016 1:54 PM
    dogma_blade dogma_blade Jun 10, 2016 10:43 PM Flag

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Now you are trying to say the numbers are not the numbers and want to put in some exceptions????

    There were 10,000 in the quarter ending March 2015 and 6,000 in the quarter ending March 2016, for a significant drop.

    Don't try and play bs games, the numbers are what they are.

    Then again you are the dbag that tries to keep mentioning "profitable cash flow" as if it is actually a business term. ROFLMAO

    The reason you are trying to pretend that it is a real business term is that although the company has reported profits and positive cash flows from operations, they have not done them at the same time yet.Keep using the made up term as long as you feel that you are getting over, no one realizes what a tool you are.

  • Reply to

    Growth Everywhere!

    by michael_moore_is_fat Jun 10, 2016 1:54 PM
    dogma_blade dogma_blade Jun 10, 2016 2:38 PM Flag

    Quarter ending March 2015 24,000 gross new connections. 14,000 net new connections. Looks like there were 10,000 connections lost in the March quarter as opposed to 6,000 lost in the March 2016 quarter for a healthy drop, not an increase.

  • Reply to

    Reed

    by mgw9514 May 17, 2016 4:14 PM
    dogma_blade dogma_blade Jun 2, 2016 10:01 AM Flag

    12 bottles for $10

  • Reply to

    hey dogma

    by netprophecy2 Jun 1, 2016 11:18 PM
    dogma_blade dogma_blade Jun 2, 2016 9:52 AM Flag

    Does that mean that you are going to be willing to take the gerbil out of the tin foil after removing it from your #$%$ so that it can run the company???????

  • Reply to

    Company needs to get stock price in gear.

    by stockplugged May 24, 2016 1:57 PM
    dogma_blade dogma_blade May 31, 2016 10:52 AM Flag

    Other airlines are trying to work to improve RASM and peoples perception of what RASM will be moving forward. They are doing it by announcing that they are cutting back on capacity growth.

    It is not very easy to increase growth in capacity faster than market growth and increase RASM, maybe the other airlines will do the work of cutting back on capacity growth for them.

  • Reply to

    Pricing stock/warrants below the market

    by boardwalk97 May 27, 2016 9:08 AM
    dogma_blade dogma_blade May 31, 2016 10:32 AM Flag

    I love your childish comeback. I am not really sure why what I am putting forward upsets you so.

    All I have said is that with the stock being down from self inflicted wounds if the soda sales rise and the company can actually fill the orders the stock should rise on top line sales over 12 million.

    I am not sure what that has to do with Kombucha as that product has no shelf space at all left in this area( approx the same amount of shelf space as Bucha), it is easier to find the last big thing the anti nausea drink.

    Not sure what the "use a condom " line is about and I know it is pretty much a sign that a joke didn't work when someone has to ask about the reference but what was that supposed to be a reference to??

    Oh well no one ever accused you of being classy or smart.

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    Pricing stock/warrants below the market

    by boardwalk97 May 27, 2016 9:08 AM
    dogma_blade dogma_blade May 29, 2016 3:13 PM Flag

    Good thing customers do not believe that.

    Soda sales as a whole are dropping low single digits while craft beverage sales are rising .

    Even target has added one 4 foot multi shelf location for just craft beverages to most of it's stores at the start of the season.

    I mention this not to talk up Reeds, as Reeds did not get any of the shelf space at the Target's, but to point out that the craft segment is growing. Not that different than the beer industry trends right now.

    I think it is e very good sign that you are not pooh poohing the companies ability to deliver the soda products, but are trying to claim that there will be no demand this year for the companies primary products and even better in Netpros case that it just won't matter at all even if sales rise.

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    Pricing stock/warrants below the market

    by boardwalk97 May 27, 2016 9:08 AM
    dogma_blade dogma_blade May 29, 2016 9:45 AM Flag

    Now you are accusing the company of accounting tricks???

    Are sales going to grow or drop, you seem to be talking out of both sides of your mouth as usual. Ginger is a passing fad in drinks and even if you are wrong and sales climb it will not matter.

    So there is nothing that can be done what a shame. Chris could never have been Jim Koch as craft soda will never be as big as craft beer an growth in the kombucha market has slowed as shelf space in the cooler has been harder to come.

    You seem to have the perspective that a company has to go from a small cap to the biggest player in a category. It very rerely works out like that and people are still able to make money off of the smaller company's.

    You think the stock is not going to move if revenue goes to 13 million for the quarter?

    You really should not post when you get home late at night stoned.

  • Reply to

    Pricing stock/warrants below the market

    by boardwalk97 May 27, 2016 9:08 AM
    dogma_blade dogma_blade May 28, 2016 10:18 PM Flag

    Ben and Jerry have not owned an ice cream business for well over a decade.The brand is owned by Unilever a billion dollar Dutch conglomerate. Could you of least put the effort in to come up with a small business that was actually owned by the people you were mentioning?

    To me it is very funny that no on wants to address the simple question that I have asked.Will the company be able to fill orders that are placed this season and will there be a demand for the 2 major products, Reed's and Virgil's soda that will drive sales?

    The reason that I ask , is that if the company gets 12 million in revenue for the second quarter and 13 million for the third the stock should climb, especially if it is based for the most part on the growth of sales in the soda brands.

  • Reply to

    Pricing stock/warrants below the market

    by boardwalk97 May 27, 2016 9:08 AM
    dogma_blade dogma_blade May 27, 2016 10:08 PM Flag

    To be brutally honest I am amazed that the Wunderlich analyst did not change his call on the company after seeming so shocked about the answer to the question on the end of year call asking about the first quarter numbers. Wasn't he the one that was shocked by the statement that the first quarter looked flat ?

    If it was him the fact that he seemed to have expected the first quarter sales to bounce back to strong growth should have given him pause to change his call in the short term when he heard the numbers were not as good as expected.

    The CEO has proven himself to be a fool and an egomaniac that will eventually step right back in it at some point down the line when things start to get good again and he starts to believe it is all because of his genius.

    That being said my approach to the stock is the next few quarters.This stock has some of the funniest breaks that I have ever seen on a stock and I am sure if it was a bigger company there would be more scrutiny. I have never seen as many late entries of the last trade of the day claiming to be made prior to 4, both pushing the stock up and down as much #$%$ or 6 cents and hitting at 4:10 to 4:15.The company received cash for the shares sold and lost 4.5 to 5 million in value based on about 600,000 in shares traded.

    Even after saying all of that the thing that ends up mattering the most is sales.In the second quarter last year Kombucha sales cratered and sales of others dropped due to the issues they had. That means sales in the second quarter depend on Virgil's, Reeds and store brands, the rest of the items should not be that important. My take on it is hopefully they did not lose that many accounts and are busy replacing lost accounts, but more importantly that they are able to ship restock items when they are needed.

    Buying in at 1x sales seems like a good spot if sales rise.

  • Reply to

    Pricing stock/warrants below the market

    by boardwalk97 May 27, 2016 9:08 AM
    dogma_blade dogma_blade May 27, 2016 1:33 PM Flag

    What do you think I am talking about??

    I have told skippy in the past that I have made money buying after the company stub's it's toe and selling after things continued growing.

    The first time that i did it I bought in at the 1.90 range and the stock continued down to the 1.20 range. As long as the numbers worked I added to the position and lowered the buy price.

    I have a small slice of stock that I bought before the first quarter was announced in case the sales had gotten back on track, Since they did not I am down quite a bit on those shares.

    When the company extended the loan with the stipulation that they had to raise money it was obvious that they were not going to get great terms because of the companies cash position.

    Now that people are using anchoring to price the stock close to where the money was raised it gives the average investor the chance to buy at pretty close to the rate the company with all of the leverage bought.

    I think sales are going back up with just the soda's as drivers, if that is the case this is a good opportunity to buy. If it is wrong and as you and Netpro have been saying sales for the year will only be 40 million dollars I will lose money .

    I really like my odds.

  • Reply to

    Pricing stock/warrants below the market

    by boardwalk97 May 27, 2016 9:08 AM
    dogma_blade dogma_blade May 27, 2016 1:14 PM Flag

    What exactly does that mean?????

    Would you care to translate that to english from bs speak.

  • Reply to

    Pricing stock/warrants below the market

    by boardwalk97 May 27, 2016 9:08 AM
    dogma_blade dogma_blade May 27, 2016 1:06 PM Flag

    Come on can't you handle the math , give a number 3.39. HAHAHA

    This is now a good entry point , anyone foolish enough to think the stock is going to drop all the way to the buy price has another thing coming.

    I know the fact that you like to buy at the top. Good call on CELLH and LWAY at the top, but the goal is to buy low and sell high.

    My price point on this stock is now in the 3.6 range after adding to my small stack from earlier.

    I should really get killed after you were able to get your personal friend the manager of your local WFM manager to tell you the product has had a 50% drop in sales without losing shelf space.

    Keep proclaiming your genius while expecting 40 million in sales for the year, only time will tell who is right.

    See you in September and we will see if I have lost or made any money and we will see how you have proclaimed your genius as you love to pretend you made some genius call after the fact.

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