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dogma_blade 67 posts  |  Last Activity: 2 hours 7 minutes ago Member since: Feb 16, 2010
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  • Reply to

    Sad Dogma...

    by michael_moore_is_fat Jul 27, 2015 9:19 PM
    dogma_blade dogma_blade 2 hours 7 minutes ago Flag

    Go back and re-read the post for the 1000 time you idjut. The company never said that the industry grew at 37%.

    If they had, they would have been saying that their sales growth was slower than the industry growth when they said that their growth was only 28%.

    If you cannot figure out what they were saying with the 37% and I will explain it for you.

  • Reply to

    Sad Dogma...

    by michael_moore_is_fat Jul 27, 2015 9:19 PM
    dogma_blade dogma_blade 4 hours ago Flag

    How many times are you going to continue to repeat the same stupid question?

    I understand that you are freaking out because if the company is able to continue to sell the ports and does not have to go back to giving them away we are almost 1 month into fiscal 2016 a cash flow positive year. Not down the road, not a few years out, now.

    The only hope that you have is that they cannot sell ports or thet start losing ports. Have fun screaming about the sky falling AHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHA

  • Reply to

    Sad Dogma...

    by michael_moore_is_fat Jul 27, 2015 9:19 PM
    dogma_blade dogma_blade 4 hours ago Flag

    Fat Mikey too stoopid for his own good.

    Math always trips him up, the claim was 2/3 of the total units revenue was below the average of the bottom 2/3 of the units. not mathematically possible, but according to you and doodie head you believe posting enough on the board will somehow alter the rules of reality.

    Thank you for agreeing with me about how stoopid the other post was as the claim was that posts on this magical board directly affects the operations of the company.

    I am guessing that there is no proof whatsoever that the people in Malvern have reacted at all to the board in the last few years. As the stock has risen over 400% and the numbers continue to improve the whiners on the board become less and less important to everyone.

  • dogma_blade dogma_blade Jul 28, 2015 5:36 AM Flag

    How unique, trying to use sarcasm when caught either lying or being factually incorrect.

    Bye the way which is it, too dishonest or too stoooopid?

  • dogma_blade dogma_blade Jul 28, 2015 5:34 AM Flag

    Yet you have no problem with effed????

    As my self appointed secretary and believer in the power of these boards on a companies actual operations,I can see how this is much more impartant to you than the companies results in the real world. ROFLMAO

  • dogma_blade dogma_blade Jul 27, 2015 4:53 PM Flag

    The board secretary scolding posters again. Bad grammar Bad poster. HAHAHAHA.

    Didn't you hear the two village idjuts seem to think the posts on this board effect company operations directly.That appears to be why they continue to sling bs non stop.

  • dogma_blade dogma_blade Jul 27, 2015 4:48 PM Flag

    I get it now!!!!

    You believe that if you post the same stooopid thing over and over it will have have an effed on the companies operations!!!!!!!!!!!! BWAHAHAHAHA

    Oh and by the way your statement is so factually incorrect as to be laughable.
    Let us see, 33% of the machines report totals much higher than 213.88. The 213.88 is the mid point on the bottom 66%. So depending on how far apart the maen and the median are, between 60% and 70% of the total ports probably report above your favorite number.

    Whatta tool!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • dogma_blade dogma_blade Jul 25, 2015 3:37 PM Flag

    Shine on you crazy delusional wack job, shine on, but never stop taking your meds, we do not need anymore tragedies.

    Keep trying to deflect from the fact that you are confusing posts on a message board with company actions!

  • dogma_blade dogma_blade Jul 25, 2015 11:46 AM Flag

    What are you correcting?

    I called the board an anonymous posting board,, not a "stock board" on my first post on this board. I was trying not to play into your delusions about this board being part of corporate operations.

    If there is a COMPANY message board it is probably behind a firewall and is in place for people who actually work for the company to make suggestions.

    There is a huge difference between claiming people from inside the company read the board and the absolutely crazy assertion that posts on this board are part of company operations.

    Yes I'm sure the company uses the blather from this board to make all corporate decisions!!!!!!! ROFLMAO

  • I have been having fun yanking the 2 village idjuts chains.

    Amazing how much they will claim any info is bad no matter what. At this point it is not that hard to figure out what numbers need to be send the stock up, or down for next quarter.Instead of being honest about that they are constantly screaming everything is bad and that any good news or positive movement on the stock cannot be real.

    Now we finally know why, here is part of a post from Doodiehed:
    "You know USAT jumped the shark when the pumpers stopped referring to Coke and Pepsi as customers and started referring to them as competitors who have no chance against USAT! CLASSIC!!!!!"

    That is right he actually said that the company jumped the shark when posters on this board started posting certain things!!!!!!!!!

    He is attacking every post and defending every thread because he actually seems to believe people posting on an anonymous posting board are part of a companies operation !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Wow, that explains quite a bit.

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    by bingbongdoodiehead Jul 20, 2015 12:40 PM
    dogma_blade dogma_blade Jul 24, 2015 4:20 PM Flag

    Only a gold plated d-bag would make a foolish post like you just did.

    It was you not me that represented your statements as facts and everyone else's as opinion.

    You are going to pretend that it was me and not you that posted that?

    Whatta fool whatta tool!!!!!!!

    My favorite fact of yours was that Coke and Pepsi were going to kick everyone else's #$%$.=there was so much data given to support this "FACT" as to seem non existent.

    I also loved your conversation with your imaginary friend
    MMIF: "Debt has increased"
    Imaginary friend: "try and pretend that Dogma said "that is your opinion"

    Poor delusional loser., he somehow believes that since the stock bottomed out at .50 per share the over 400% increase in value over the last 5 years is not real.

    Keep rationalizing all you want, you don't appear too cray cray.

  • Reply to

    reed v. lway

    by netprophecy2 Jan 12, 2015 7:29 PM
    dogma_blade dogma_blade Jul 24, 2015 2:13 PM Flag

    What happened to LWAY, why the haircut?

  • Reply to


    by bingbongdoodiehead Jul 20, 2015 12:40 PM
    dogma_blade dogma_blade Jul 24, 2015 1:53 PM Flag

    Is there a point in there somewhere?

    Yes the stock is up from .50, it is up from 1.00, it is up from 2, it is up from 2.50, it is up from 3.00.That is what happens when the information turns positive.

    I really love to see that you are not too much of an egocentric d-bag, all your conjecture is somehow FACT (all caps no less) while everyone else can only muster perspective.

    Whatta tool!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, not patent pending ROFLMAO

    Can you give me quick spell check mr secretary?

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    by bingbongdoodiehead Jul 20, 2015 12:40 PM
    dogma_blade dogma_blade Jul 24, 2015 1:18 PM Flag

    In the future??????

    Have you been hitting the pipe again?

    Thins are fine in the present stock up over 450% in last 5 years,stock up over 100% ytd, revenue last quarter up over 40%.

    the present and recent past have been pretty good to shareholders

    I find it too funny that you keep bringing up the name of the ceo of this company and the town where it is headquartered.

    What is even funnier than seemingly deep seated hatred for the ceo is an apparent accompanying deep seated hatred for a town.

    Yes somewhere in the twisted little minds of the village idjuts they have come to equate a town somewhere in PA with Mordor

    No doubt when they pound out their drivel in an attempt to control the board they are busy calling the board their precious in low mumbles.

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    by bingbongdoodiehead Jul 20, 2015 12:40 PM
    dogma_blade dogma_blade Jul 24, 2015 11:15 AM Flag

    What a load of garbage.

    -Coke and Pepsi will kill them if they get traction
    -Such disappointment moving into new markets over the last 5 years and through it all they were only able to achieve between 20% and 40% growth the whole time.
    -Growth in new ports is slowing because it is hard to keep up the percentage growth on a larger base. The ytd growth in ports is only 23%, which is a lower percentage than last year, but still pretty good growth
    - Last quarter was very rough with only 14000 new ports, it is hard to believe that the stock rose with the anemic 40%+ increase in revenue

    The fact of the matter is that the system is now big enough to be cash flow positive, as long as they are able to continue selling new ports and do not go back to giving them away they .

  • Reply to


    by bingbongdoodiehead Jul 20, 2015 12:40 PM
    dogma_blade dogma_blade Jul 23, 2015 11:44 PM Flag


    The boards 2 d-bags post 24-7 and will attack any attempt to put a positive metric on this board.

    -double digit increase in ports- pure garbage
    -20% or great sales increase over many years-pure garbage
    -company posting a profit for the last 2 fiscal year-pure garbage
    -stock up over 450% over last 5 year- pure garbage, must be dumb investors
    -stock up over 100% ytd- pure garbage, must be dumb investors
    -Transitioning from giving away a large percentage of posts, to getting customers to pay for ports-pure garbage
    -cash burn shrinking consistently over the last few years- pure garbage

    They will scream and claim none of these are real positive, must be false positives.

    What are the 2 big negatives

    -continued claims that many ports are not profitable and are about to be pulled without any proof and in face of the fact that the average dollar from each port has been rising

    Must not forget Fat Mikey's other big claim, that while Coke has not done it yet, they have been running a program in beta for a few years that they will someday roll out and lay waste to all of the other competitors in the industry . ROFLMAO!!!!!!

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    by bingbongdoodiehead Jul 20, 2015 12:40 PM
    dogma_blade dogma_blade Jul 23, 2015 12:58 PM Flag

    You are trying to ignore the fact of the math with a blanket statement of attack???

    The fact is you asked people to show the math wrong. By assuming ports that were in play at the end of the quarter were in play the whole quarter 24,000,000 or about 12% of the ports are being measured incorrectly.

    After the math is pointed out you go running to the old stand bye of blanket attacking statements.

    how unexpected.

  • Reply to


    by bingbongdoodiehead Jul 20, 2015 12:40 PM
    dogma_blade dogma_blade Jul 23, 2015 12:50 PM Flag


    It is not my math, it is just math.

    If you cannot handle that stick with index funds and secretarial work.

    The basic math used in the first problem led to an understatement of revenue per port. A modification based on my post would get it closer to the real number.

    I simply posted it because being the d-bags that you are you kept challenging people to show the weakness of your work.

    Fat Mickeys post is littered with assumption and most importatently does nothing to distinguish how ports perform over time

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    by bingbongdoodiehead Jul 20, 2015 12:40 PM
    dogma_blade dogma_blade Jul 23, 2015 12:15 PM Flag

    Physics without friction.

    Leaving moving variables out of an equation might make it easier to solve, but the final number is not as accurate as the seller might be claiming.Using static numbers.

    Quite simply revenue per port is being understated, because in simplifying the math an improper assumption was made to make the math easier.

    Over the 90 days of the quarter 24,000 ports were sold to customers.In the math it was assumed that the 24,000 ports were actually in place and being used for the whole 90 days of the quarter. It is more likely that the majority of the ports were sold later in the quarter as deals were struck and sales reps struggle to reach quotas.Even if you wanted to assume they sold the same number of ports every day for the quarter and assume that the ports were immediately activated you would have to remove half the ports from the usage numbers.

    It is so funny to see an amateur try cutesy around the numbers to fit a theory on a stock when the rest of hist points have already gone to heck.

  • Reply to

    Fear and hope

    by dogma_blade Jul 22, 2015 2:13 PM
    dogma_blade dogma_blade Jul 23, 2015 11:17 AM Flag

    Reeds PR indicated that they planned to expand moving forward.

    Instead of increasing capacity during the slow season they decided to do it during the busy season,

    On last quarters call the new hot shot said that the company had hired CTR to project manage the capacity expansion.75% of the new equipment was on site, with the balance to arrive in July.If the project goes according to plan they said that the new capacity will be ready to go by mid September at the end of the season.This is what made me think the new employees and expansion plan were more likely a response to problems with production than a well thought out plan, where say the upgrade could have started in September and finished in the spring.

    The pr announced that they wanted to add co-packers, the only announcement was a new co packer on the East coast starting on May 18th. I got the impression that this was a replacement co packer for the existing one because of the choice words Chris had for the existing co-packer on pricing in prior call.If the existing co-packer knew that they were not getting any more orders after May 18th it would be in their best interest to not have a single item be it bottle or ingredient left in their inventory by May 17th.

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