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dogma_blade 123 posts  |  Last Activity: 16 hours ago Member since: Feb 16, 2010
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  • I have been having fun yanking the 2 village idjuts chains.

    Amazing how much they will claim any info is bad no matter what. At this point it is not that hard to figure out what numbers need to be send the stock up, or down for next quarter.Instead of being honest about that they are constantly screaming everything is bad and that any good news or positive movement on the stock cannot be real.

    Now we finally know why, here is part of a post from Doodiehed:
    "You know USAT jumped the shark when the pumpers stopped referring to Coke and Pepsi as customers and started referring to them as competitors who have no chance against USAT! CLASSIC!!!!!"

    That is right he actually said that the company jumped the shark when posters on this board started posting certain things!!!!!!!!!

    He is attacking every post and defending every thread because he actually seems to believe people posting on an anonymous posting board are part of a companies operation !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Wow, that explains quite a bit.

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    by bingbongdoodiehead Jul 20, 2015 12:40 PM
    dogma_blade dogma_blade Jul 24, 2015 4:20 PM Flag

    Only a gold plated d-bag would make a foolish post like you just did.

    It was you not me that represented your statements as facts and everyone else's as opinion.

    You are going to pretend that it was me and not you that posted that?

    Whatta fool whatta tool!!!!!!!

    My favorite fact of yours was that Coke and Pepsi were going to kick everyone else's #$%$.=there was so much data given to support this "FACT" as to seem non existent.

    I also loved your conversation with your imaginary friend
    MMIF: "Debt has increased"
    Imaginary friend: "try and pretend that Dogma said "that is your opinion"

    Poor delusional loser., he somehow believes that since the stock bottomed out at .50 per share the over 400% increase in value over the last 5 years is not real.

    Keep rationalizing all you want, you don't appear too cray cray.

  • Reply to

    reed v. lway

    by netprophecy2 Jan 12, 2015 7:29 PM
    dogma_blade dogma_blade Jul 24, 2015 2:13 PM Flag

    What happened to LWAY, why the haircut?

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    by bingbongdoodiehead Jul 20, 2015 12:40 PM
    dogma_blade dogma_blade Jul 24, 2015 1:53 PM Flag

    Is there a point in there somewhere?

    Yes the stock is up from .50, it is up from 1.00, it is up from 2, it is up from 2.50, it is up from 3.00.That is what happens when the information turns positive.

    I really love to see that you are not too much of an egocentric d-bag, all your conjecture is somehow FACT (all caps no less) while everyone else can only muster perspective.

    Whatta tool!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, not patent pending ROFLMAO

    Can you give me quick spell check mr secretary?

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    by bingbongdoodiehead Jul 20, 2015 12:40 PM
    dogma_blade dogma_blade Jul 24, 2015 1:18 PM Flag

    In the future??????

    Have you been hitting the pipe again?

    Thins are fine in the present stock up over 450% in last 5 years,stock up over 100% ytd, revenue last quarter up over 40%.

    the present and recent past have been pretty good to shareholders

    I find it too funny that you keep bringing up the name of the ceo of this company and the town where it is headquartered.

    What is even funnier than seemingly deep seated hatred for the ceo is an apparent accompanying deep seated hatred for a town.

    Yes somewhere in the twisted little minds of the village idjuts they have come to equate a town somewhere in PA with Mordor

    No doubt when they pound out their drivel in an attempt to control the board they are busy calling the board their precious in low mumbles.

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    by bingbongdoodiehead Jul 20, 2015 12:40 PM
    dogma_blade dogma_blade Jul 24, 2015 11:15 AM Flag

    What a load of garbage.

    -Coke and Pepsi will kill them if they get traction
    -Such disappointment moving into new markets over the last 5 years and through it all they were only able to achieve between 20% and 40% growth the whole time.
    -Growth in new ports is slowing because it is hard to keep up the percentage growth on a larger base. The ytd growth in ports is only 23%, which is a lower percentage than last year, but still pretty good growth
    - Last quarter was very rough with only 14000 new ports, it is hard to believe that the stock rose with the anemic 40%+ increase in revenue

    The fact of the matter is that the system is now big enough to be cash flow positive, as long as they are able to continue selling new ports and do not go back to giving them away they .

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    by bingbongdoodiehead Jul 20, 2015 12:40 PM
    dogma_blade dogma_blade Jul 23, 2015 11:44 PM Flag


    The boards 2 d-bags post 24-7 and will attack any attempt to put a positive metric on this board.

    -double digit increase in ports- pure garbage
    -20% or great sales increase over many years-pure garbage
    -company posting a profit for the last 2 fiscal year-pure garbage
    -stock up over 450% over last 5 year- pure garbage, must be dumb investors
    -stock up over 100% ytd- pure garbage, must be dumb investors
    -Transitioning from giving away a large percentage of posts, to getting customers to pay for ports-pure garbage
    -cash burn shrinking consistently over the last few years- pure garbage

    They will scream and claim none of these are real positive, must be false positives.

    What are the 2 big negatives

    -continued claims that many ports are not profitable and are about to be pulled without any proof and in face of the fact that the average dollar from each port has been rising

    Must not forget Fat Mikey's other big claim, that while Coke has not done it yet, they have been running a program in beta for a few years that they will someday roll out and lay waste to all of the other competitors in the industry . ROFLMAO!!!!!!

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    by bingbongdoodiehead Jul 20, 2015 12:40 PM
    dogma_blade dogma_blade Jul 23, 2015 12:58 PM Flag

    You are trying to ignore the fact of the math with a blanket statement of attack???

    The fact is you asked people to show the math wrong. By assuming ports that were in play at the end of the quarter were in play the whole quarter 24,000,000 or about 12% of the ports are being measured incorrectly.

    After the math is pointed out you go running to the old stand bye of blanket attacking statements.

    how unexpected.

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    by bingbongdoodiehead Jul 20, 2015 12:40 PM
    dogma_blade dogma_blade Jul 23, 2015 12:50 PM Flag


    It is not my math, it is just math.

    If you cannot handle that stick with index funds and secretarial work.

    The basic math used in the first problem led to an understatement of revenue per port. A modification based on my post would get it closer to the real number.

    I simply posted it because being the d-bags that you are you kept challenging people to show the weakness of your work.

    Fat Mickeys post is littered with assumption and most importatently does nothing to distinguish how ports perform over time

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    by bingbongdoodiehead Jul 20, 2015 12:40 PM
    dogma_blade dogma_blade Jul 23, 2015 12:15 PM Flag

    Physics without friction.

    Leaving moving variables out of an equation might make it easier to solve, but the final number is not as accurate as the seller might be claiming.Using static numbers.

    Quite simply revenue per port is being understated, because in simplifying the math an improper assumption was made to make the math easier.

    Over the 90 days of the quarter 24,000 ports were sold to customers.In the math it was assumed that the 24,000 ports were actually in place and being used for the whole 90 days of the quarter. It is more likely that the majority of the ports were sold later in the quarter as deals were struck and sales reps struggle to reach quotas.Even if you wanted to assume they sold the same number of ports every day for the quarter and assume that the ports were immediately activated you would have to remove half the ports from the usage numbers.

    It is so funny to see an amateur try cutesy around the numbers to fit a theory on a stock when the rest of hist points have already gone to heck.

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    Fear and hope

    by dogma_blade Jul 22, 2015 2:13 PM
    dogma_blade dogma_blade Jul 23, 2015 11:17 AM Flag

    Reeds PR indicated that they planned to expand moving forward.

    Instead of increasing capacity during the slow season they decided to do it during the busy season,

    On last quarters call the new hot shot said that the company had hired CTR to project manage the capacity expansion.75% of the new equipment was on site, with the balance to arrive in July.If the project goes according to plan they said that the new capacity will be ready to go by mid September at the end of the season.This is what made me think the new employees and expansion plan were more likely a response to problems with production than a well thought out plan, where say the upgrade could have started in September and finished in the spring.

    The pr announced that they wanted to add co-packers, the only announcement was a new co packer on the East coast starting on May 18th. I got the impression that this was a replacement co packer for the existing one because of the choice words Chris had for the existing co-packer on pricing in prior call.If the existing co-packer knew that they were not getting any more orders after May 18th it would be in their best interest to not have a single item be it bottle or ingredient left in their inventory by May 17th.

  • dogma_blade by dogma_blade Jul 22, 2015 2:13 PM Flag

    I have a bad feeling about the companies second quarter numbers.
    I do not think Chris brought in the new talent until things had really gone bad.
    In addition in does not appear at least locally that the switch to a new co-packer went smoothly in the middle of the quarter.
    In May and June the soda seemed out of stock everywhere and was not being restocked, it makes me worry about the second quarter numbers.

    On the other hand by the beginning of July the soda and the Kombucha started landing on shelves, with promotional pricing of 3.99 four packs and 2 bottles for 6.00.Even better the product seemed (especially with the soda) to be flying of the shelve and was getting restocked.

    I have a bad feeling about the second quarter( hope I am wrong), but a really good feeling about the local numbers for the third quarter.

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    by aladdinprince Jul 22, 2015 10:23 AM
    dogma_blade dogma_blade Jul 22, 2015 2:02 PM Flag

    It is not an excuse.

    The Canadian currency is about 10% lower than it was last year against the dollar.It hit the firs and second quarter and looks as though it will hit the third.

    The company needed a 6% increase in unit sales just to match last years top line number.

    They will probably need a 5% to 7% increase in unit sales in the second quarter just to be able to match last years last years top line number.

    If they are finally turning around unit sales that is a plus, but the currency problem has to make you worry about how much longer it will be before the company needs more money.

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    by bingbongdoodiehead Jul 20, 2015 12:40 PM
    dogma_blade dogma_blade Jul 21, 2015 10:25 PM Flag

    You did not find the math for me.I have been saying where it was all day.

    I pointed out Fat Mikey's error and corrected his numbers.

    I find it funny that someone unable to perform a simple search backing up a fool who cannot handle simple math would be trying to imply that I can't seem to learn.

    You must be right the over 450% gain over the last 5 years and over 100% ytd gain mean nothing

    -over 20%revenue growth per year over many many years means nothing
    -reporting profits for the last 2 fiscal years mans nothing
    - the cash burn dropping many millions over the last few years means nothing
    -the fact that they have been able to switch from giving away millions of dollars in ports each quarter to instead selling them means nothing.

    At this point you 2 dips are holding your breath praying for the net removal of ports each quarter or for the company to have to go back to giving away ports. Simple math shows that all the company has to do is match last quarters revenue for the next few quarters and the growth of financed receivables will make the company cash flow positive. Do the math no growth in sales needed ,funny what happens when they sell a fell million in ports instead of giving them away.

    Keep attacking people, putting them down and claiming they are are insiders from some little town in PA.

    It would make most people look like jackasses, but it really works for you.

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    by bingbongdoodiehead Jul 20, 2015 12:40 PM
    dogma_blade dogma_blade Jul 21, 2015 6:53 PM Flag

    Doodie head cannot make a single post where he addresses questions.It is all about the red marker and his secretarial prowess

    Poor fool gets the gold sticker,but ends up living in poverty due to not being able to handle simple math.

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    by bingbongdoodiehead Jul 20, 2015 12:40 PM
    dogma_blade dogma_blade Jul 21, 2015 4:09 PM Flag

    Sorry lazy shiat headz get nothing.

    Ask fat mikey why he changed his number from 400 to 213 if you are really interested, otherwise feel free to continue to take out your frustration out over how much you have lost by shorting the stock over the last few years on the stock by continuing to be the grammar police.

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    by bingbongdoodiehead Jul 20, 2015 12:40 PM
    dogma_blade dogma_blade Jul 21, 2015 3:50 PM Flag

    Were are you getting the average number of machines that each customer has in total from?

    how do you know what the penetration rate is with the customers?

    While it appears the average customer has 33.8 ports,a little more than 10% more than you are stating, I am curious where you are getting the penetration rate info from.

    Or as usual are you just throwing out a liberal serving of bs.

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    by bingbongdoodiehead Jul 20, 2015 12:40 PM
    dogma_blade dogma_blade Jul 21, 2015 1:13 PM Flag

    I do not really care if you are too stupid to remember or find the posts.

    Not my fing problem tool.

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    by bingbongdoodiehead Jul 20, 2015 12:40 PM
    dogma_blade dogma_blade Jul 21, 2015 12:47 PM Flag

    Wow more deflection and redirection from Tweedle dumb and Tweedle dumber'

    The math was provided in prior posts, if you are not smart enough to look back at the math and only smart enough to steal the results from some ones work that is not to surprising.

    Do you think the profit this quarter will break 1/2 a million?.

    After all why should they break the 2 year string of profitable years.

    The thing that has you 2 dipshiats rattled is the realization that if the company has permanently been able to switch from giving away the ports to financing the purchases the cash flow issue goes away much sooner.than thought.

    Lets see instead of depreciating give away ports.Will the 3 million dollar increase (and counting) help the cash flow more than the depreciation taken on the free ports in the past?

    Not really that tough a question.

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    by bingbongdoodiehead Jul 20, 2015 12:40 PM
    dogma_blade dogma_blade Jul 21, 2015 9:42 AM Flag

    You truly are not very smart are you?

    The point was that if the company provided all the data to come up with the totals they were not hiding anything.

    It seems as if you have a very selective memory.Here is a quote from you from June

    "I did the calculations based on 90,000 in the study and the 212,000 remaining appear to have annual cashless revenues of $367/each?"

    So which is the right total 367 or 218?

    Or did someone correct your math along the way?


    Watta tool, keep correcting peoples grammar , getting things wrong and acting as if over 100% increase in the stock price over the last year and over 400% in the last five years is just a blip that happened for no apparent reason!!!!!! ROFLMAO

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