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The Hain Celestial Group, Inc. Message Board

dogma_blade 134 posts  |  Last Activity: 6 hours ago Member since: Feb 16, 2010
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  • dogma_blade dogma_blade Mar 2, 2015 9:58 AM Flag

    Not the case, in the 60 minutes bit they tested Lowe"s, LL and Home depot product.Only LL product tested above the California/federal standard.

    Chinese were very open about being willing to help a company cheat.60 minutes sent in undercover producers posing as potential buyers. All of the factories said that they could produce to the California standard , but it would cost more, they added that they had no problem producing to a lower standard, for less money and slapping on a label that said the product met the standard.

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    9% line of credit

    by jimcpaohio Dec 17, 2014 8:01 PM
    dogma_blade dogma_blade Dec 18, 2014 6:32 PM Flag

    Congrats on spinning a 39% and a 31% reduction in the interest rates on 2 credit facilities into negatives.

    To the CPA, if you can get small businesses loans at prime without collateral you are truly amazing. Of course my bs detector started to go off when I read "I think for the most part. yes", you might want to make sure you go over the companies numbers again before signing of on the companies numbers and submitting them to the IRS.

    The federal reserves survey of small business loans (survey of over 400 banks) puts the average loan rate for loans up to a million (yes, I know smaller than Reeds, but similar in size to the boards CPA) puts the average borrowing rate at 7.59%. While that is still lower than 9%, the premium that Reeds is paying for being a company that just became cash flow positive in the last year is not that great, unless of course all of the other small cap companies are really getting money at prime.

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    sweepstakes for 25,000

    by netprophecy2 Dec 17, 2014 1:01 PM
    dogma_blade dogma_blade Dec 26, 2014 5:57 PM Flag

    Wow did I break some sort of rule??

    I bought the stock at 1.95 , sold at 7.27 and have built up a new position with an average price of about 4.50. I was not aware that you could only buy a company during an IPO.

    I love the childish proclamation, if you bought a year ago you would be down, if you bought at the IPO you would be down . There is no other legitimate entry point to buy the stock.

    Therefore it must be an absolute "So, like the man said, as an investment Reed's has been a failure." what a tool ROFLMAO

    I really love it when he complains about how it has taken 4 whole year to double the company sales and scoffs at 20% growth. Sam Adams 25% growth AMAZING ,Reeds 22% growth, horrible.

    Complaining about the 25000 promotion and claiming samples and swag do not work in promotion when they are the most effective non trade promotion for a company this size. The reason that the stock ran up and down after the numbers came out is that the the company tried to act big without having the heft to back it up.

    The reason that the companies profit dropped from the second to third quarter had nothing to do with the company having a problem with operational expenses. It had to do with Chris's ego and his wanting to be the face of the brand. The company increased it's promotional budget from 38,000 to 460,000. Of the 422,000 increase 407,000 of the money went to the self indulgent commercial. So don't worry they didn't waste money on site level sampling or promotion, but instead went big with a cable add, the type of lamb brain move you must love.

    I would have preferred a small increase in the Ad budget, another 350,000 in cash to the bottom line and paying for some of the factory upgrade out of cash on hand.

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    Added 2222 to my 7777 shares @ 5.90

    by boofoou2 Dec 18, 2014 1:14 PM
    dogma_blade dogma_blade Dec 23, 2014 11:06 PM Flag

    If they are hedged why did sales increase 27.7% while food and packaging costs increased 30% ?

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    9% line of credit

    by jimcpaohio Dec 17, 2014 8:01 PM
    dogma_blade dogma_blade Dec 19, 2014 11:04 AM Flag

    It is very funny the response that I have gotten for pointing out simple facts, that 9% is a 35% better rate than the company had of 14.25% and 13% a year ago when they were more of a credit risk.

    Was it that or my giving props to the board CPA for getting his clients loans for prime (later revised to prime plus 1 or2) without collateral when the average rate for small businesses according to the fed is 7.59%

    I never tried to claim 9% was better than 7.59%, I simply stated my opinion that is was a move in the right direction as the companies cash flow had turned positive in the last year.

    There is a number that sticks out like a sore thumb on the quarterly that is probably why the stock went up and then right back down after the numbers were released. Other than the normal fear of slowing sales growth it is probably the item that gave most investors pause.

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    Why is PRASM down so much?

    by homerunguy2000 Jan 14, 2015 11:10 AM
    dogma_blade dogma_blade Jan 14, 2015 1:33 PM Flag

    Most airlines prasm was down for December .
    For December
    Southwest down 4-5% ,AA flat to down 2% etc because ticket prices did drop slightly due to gas prices drops.

    Jet Blues was a little higher simply due to the fact that they added more capacity than other airlines so their load factor dropped 1.3%. Those are available miles getting 0 dollars.

    Per Air Canada
    "Passenger Revenue per Available Seat Mile or RASM – Refers to average passenger revenue per ASM (baggage fee revenues, which are included in passenger revenues, are removed for the purposes of calculating RASM)."

    This stock should continue to rise going to the end of the second quarter. As they get close to lapping the drop in gas prices and the number of new planes coming from the producers continues to ramp up it might be time to pull shares off of the table.

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    9% line of credit

    by jimcpaohio Dec 17, 2014 8:01 PM
    dogma_blade dogma_blade Dec 18, 2014 11:40 PM Flag

    Once again congrats on getting your clients loans at prime without collateral.

    Oh wait a minute now you are saying that it is prime plus 1% or 2%.. Well at least that is still 2 points below the national average (7.59%) according to the federal reserve and 400 banks that were surveyed , your customers should still be happy.

    As opposed to your assertions, I believe the statements that I made were factual. The interest rates were reduced 31% and 39% on the 2 agreements that were renewed.

    In addition I do not think being 1 1/2 points over the small business rate average (7.59%) is that bad for a company that has become cash flow positive in the last year or so.

    What exactly so bad about the credit terms improving 35% over the last contract?

    Let me guess, it's not better enough.

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    Mikey's real problem???

    by dogma_blade Dec 4, 2014 12:44 PM
    dogma_blade dogma_blade Jan 14, 2015 5:27 PM Flag

    Fat Mikey,

    I am waiting for you to come out in support of the terrorists in France , after all how dare someone not give a religioss icon the respect a true believer wants them to give.

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    Why RAD is Down Today

    by ar.sigis Jan 12, 2015 11:16 AM
    dogma_blade dogma_blade Jan 12, 2015 12:03 PM Flag

    long term debt is actually up over 30 million from where it was in March at the beginning of the fiscal year.

    While they reduced the debt over half a billion in the last 2 fiscal years it does not appear as though they felt the need to concentrate on debt reduction this year yet.

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    Najarian repeat

    by dogma_blade Jan 28, 2015 10:03 AM
    dogma_blade dogma_blade Jan 28, 2015 11:03 AM Flag

    You seem to be angry that I agree with you that this news might not send the stock up long term.

    I think within the next few years this stock could break 5 dollars, I just do not think it will be happening in the next few months.

    The revenue for the next quarter should rise over 20%,hopefully the COR will not repeat the one time charges from last quarter, but since the full 3 months worth of lease payments will be included the COR, there should not be any huge gross profit surprise in the quarterly number.

    In addition with the company paying back 2.5 million of the debt in the quarter the cash and equivs should drop more than that number during the quarter bringing out more of the naysayers.

    The next few quarter should be a good chance to dig through real cash flow from operations and to see if the positive trend of some sales moving from Jumpstart to Kickstart continues without the stock running too much.

    The real change in cash flow will also help to show if and when they might need to raise additional funds.

    I cannot prevent press releasing fools and MoMo dreamers from causing spikes and drops on this stock, but I will damned sure take advantage of their foolishness.

    If the stock drops back to a good buy in point I will get back in, If not I will take my filthy lucre elsewhere.

    As always , Buy low, Sell high.

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    new outlet

    by al_cogs Jan 4, 2015 7:20 PM
    dogma_blade dogma_blade Jan 6, 2015 11:35 AM Flag

    The company is finally cash flow positive and still growing at 15 to 20%, that puts it in rarefied air in the shrinking soda industry.

    The company is run relatively efficiently for doing almost everything in house.

    The fear for investors is that Chris Reed does not seem to respect the concept of profitability. The moment the company shows solid profitability he spends most of the money on a self indulgent tv commercial and the next quarters profit drops to a marginal amount.

    Even though 15% to 20% growth for the next 3 quarters seems very likely. The possibility of a waste full spend (continuing the tv add spend or borrowing 3 million for the upgrade in this quarter) or something happening during the factory upgrade, that Chris will make seem worse, by claiming he had to come in and save the day after someone else messed up has people afraid to move into the stock

    If they would simply cancel the tv add, put some of the money into sampling promotions (to help get the Kombucha into more Whole foods and open new accounts for all the products) and let the rest drop to the bottom line the company could show a .50 profit next year if the solid growth continues.

    That is not likely to happen because Chris thinks like Netpro and does not believe that 20% growth is good enough.There should be run ups during the year and the decision will be whether to cash in or hold hoping for the real break out.

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    new outlet

    by al_cogs Jan 4, 2015 7:20 PM
    dogma_blade dogma_blade Jan 8, 2015 11:22 AM Flag

    Let me guess you love to buy high and sell low?

    "20% is wonderful for a private company"?

    You do not seem to grasp basic math

    Due to the magic of compounding 20% growth doubles a companies revenue in 3 1/2 years, not 5.

    If this basic concept escapes you and you only want to invest in unicorn companies with 100% annual growth I would like to suggest a low cost index fund as the best investment for you.

    If a company started with a million in annual sales, increased sales at 20% for 100 years they would end up with sales in the trillions.

    Just take a look at Reeds, I am not saying that they will be able to sustain 20% growth for the next 10 1/2 years, but you asked how long it takes to break 300 million in sales

    The company has sales of 42 million over the last 4 quarters.20% growth over the next 10 1/2 year would bring the revenue to 336 million.

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    by michael_moore_is_fat Feb 24, 2015 2:44 PM
    dogma_blade dogma_blade 6 hours ago Flag


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    by michael_moore_is_fat Feb 24, 2015 2:44 PM
    dogma_blade dogma_blade 17 hours ago Flag


    There is no reason to break out the number, just because the stock going up seemed to cause you to lose your shiat.

    As I have been saying all along, if sales continue to rise at over 15% things will be fine.

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    by michael_moore_is_fat Feb 24, 2015 2:44 PM
    dogma_blade dogma_blade Mar 4, 2015 5:43 PM Flag

    2 years running.

  • dogma_blade dogma_blade Dec 10, 2014 12:08 PM Flag

    Bad news is bad good news is bad , everything is double plus bad!!!!!!!! LOL

    Adding new customers terrible for the business, just ask Fat Mikey and he will let you know.

    He claims that 20% growth will not help the company but continues to try and convince himself that it is growing at 7%

  • dogma_blade dogma_blade Dec 11, 2014 1:19 PM Flag

    Feeling refreshed????

    Did Fat Mikey get the desired response??

  • Reply to

    new outlet

    by al_cogs Jan 4, 2015 7:20 PM
    dogma_blade dogma_blade Jan 5, 2015 5:02 PM Flag

    Unfortunately, most convenience stores, drug stores, gas stations will not carry beverages in glass bottles.

    Usually the only exception is in states where they are allowed to sell beer, not soda or kombucha.

  • dogma_blade dogma_blade Dec 9, 2014 1:03 PM Flag

    Average FICA 608 (average is sub prime), tightening of standards caused same store sales to drop.

    What is the plain to replace the high credit risk customers that the store was using to keep sales growing.

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    Lack of insider buying

    by bingbongdoodiehead Dec 8, 2014 10:50 AM
    dogma_blade dogma_blade Dec 8, 2014 1:11 PM Flag

    Must be another day without any new information.

    a board troll is going on and on about insider buying.

    One of the oldest lines in the world. How enlightening

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