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donwshuper50 105 posts  |  Last Activity: 20 hours ago Member since: Feb 26, 2011
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  • donwshuper50 donwshuper50 20 hours ago Flag

    you are F O S - its not up to boeing as to what data MH wanted to traNSMIT - and besides, that data system was deliberately shut off.

    Stuff it where the sun dont shine

  • Reply to

    Did yur grandparents get SS overpayments ?

    by donwshuper50 Apr 15, 2014 1:04 PM
    donwshuper50 donwshuper50 Apr 16, 2014 6:10 PM Flag

    "...Today's Democrat Party is more and more taking on the character of other communist and totalitarian regimes…"

    Most other communist and totalitarian regimes would consider themselves libeled to be compared with the U.S version. They do have standards . . .

  • Reply to

    Did yur grandparents get SS overpayments ?

    by donwshuper50 Apr 15, 2014 1:04 PM
    donwshuper50 donwshuper50 Apr 16, 2014 12:57 AM Flag

    swell its been going on - several teens of millions already collected.

    Sort of a twist on the old cliche b movie ' do you have relatives living in . . . . .'

    And then there is the old ex post facto game and NOT holding children responsible for ' debts' of their elders.

    Now its choom gang rules- hairy reid in charge..

  • IF SS thinks they did- ( no proof needed ) then they can and have recovered the overpayment from YOUR tax refunds or similar !

    Ditto if your parents were overpaid when you were still in diapers !

    Of course its against the law- but thats just a detail of non significance

  • Reply to

    engineering relocation

    by falmouthharbor Apr 13, 2014 2:28 PM
    donwshuper50 donwshuper50 Apr 15, 2014 1:27 AM Flag

    .." few manufacturing giants.." ??

    one of the FEW assembly giants- BA manufactures very little of the current line of planes

    many many many moons ago - they did manufacture most of the 707 and 727 and for a while most of 737 -

  • Reply to

    engineering relocation

    by falmouthharbor Apr 13, 2014 2:28 PM
    donwshuper50 donwshuper50 Apr 14, 2014 10:10 AM Flag

    actually- he got to 3M by way of being a GE jack welch reject- even though he genuflected to Jacks business model - called ' shareholder value " above all else. after leaving 3M- the remaining employees crawled out of their bunkers ( designed to be almost neutron jackproof ) and celebrated ' ding #$%$ - the …. is gone "

    Of course being friends with Hazrry stoneciper also helped out

  • donwshuper50 donwshuper50 Apr 13, 2014 11:13 PM Flag

    my ** guess** is that if black box found- it will only be tail section and maybe a few hundred miles from body. Cuz tail section is mostly hollow and largely composite and probably detached when ditched or plunged.

  • donwshuper50 donwshuper50 Apr 13, 2014 11:08 PM Flag

    probably if within 200 yards or so . . . since the spot seems to be 15K deep or so - not much help at the moment

  • donwshuper50 donwshuper50 Apr 13, 2014 2:43 PM Flag

    The manufacturer of the underwater locator beacons (ULB), that were mounted to the flight data and cockpit voice recorders of MH-370, specified their ULB would transmit ultrasonic pulsed sounds at 37.5kHz +/- 1kHz at 160dB (re 1µPa). After a period of 30 days the ULB would still transmit at that frequency at 157 dB. The manufacturer did not publish any data beyond 30 days (certification criteria). Other manufacturers specifying their ULBs also at 160dB initially and 157dB after 30 days state the ULB would still transmit after 90 days though at around 150dB, the frequency drift may exceed 1kHz.

  • donwshuper50 donwshuper50 Apr 10, 2014 3:01 PM Flag

    yes !! - after all the above - it flew for 5 hours- and softly landed in the ocean or dieiego garca or area 51

  • donwshuper50 by donwshuper50 Apr 9, 2014 12:28 AM Flag

    in same general area. Not yet ready to deploy submersible since it moves about 1/6 speed of ship towing ping detector- expeerts quite sure pinger rates consistent with that expected.

    Will not con firm MH370 until see wreckage- which will take a few days/weeks

  • Reply to

    A few facts from credible source re 370 . .

    by donwshuper50 Apr 8, 2014 12:32 AM
    donwshuper50 donwshuper50 Apr 8, 2014 5:42 PM Flag

    even if they find the ' black ' box- and probably the tail section of the 777- the body may well be hundreds of miles away.. Being largely composite- the tail may well have floated on the surface for a week or more, drifitng with wind and current before sinking.

    Maybe the C hin ese will finally find that the pinger they heard was from their own pinger in the rubber raft- which may have got wet and . . . .

  • Reply to

    A few facts from credible source re 370 . .

    by donwshuper50 Apr 8, 2014 12:32 AM
    donwshuper50 donwshuper50 Apr 8, 2014 1:27 PM Flag

    you are responding to the wrong thread- wrong person !!

  • Reply to

    A few facts from credible source re 370 . .

    by donwshuper50 Apr 8, 2014 12:32 AM
    donwshuper50 donwshuper50 Apr 8, 2014 10:16 AM Flag

    Interesting- why would any sane person give a thumbs down on an article with links to source ?

    probable answer is knee jerk- plain jerk - or IN sane !!

    Joint Agency Coordination Centre
    Transcript of Press Conference, 7 April 2014

    Angus Houston: First of all, I'd like to start by introducing again Commodore Peter Leavy, the Commander of the military Task Force that's doing all the great search work out at sea. Bob Armstrong from the ATSB and Mike Barton from AMSA. Over on the left, we also have our subject matter expert on underwater salvage and rescue, and that's Captain Matthews from the US Navy. He will be available for one-on-one interviews at the end of the press conference.

    Well, Good Afternoon. Yesterday, I outlined a number of leads we were pursuing in relation to the search of the missing Malaysian Airlines flight MH370. Namely, the electronic pulse signals detected by the Chinese ship, Haixun 01, and an acoustic noise being pursued by the Australian Defence Vessel, Ocean Shield, in her current location. I stated that the Ocean Shield would be delayed from going to the approximate area where the Haixun 01 had detected the signals while she continued her own investigations.

    Today, I can report some very encouraging information which has unfolded over the last 24 hours. The Towed Pinger Locator deployed from the Australian Defence Vessel, Ocean Shield, has detected signals consistent with those emitted by aircraft black boxes.

    Two separate signal detections have occurred within the northern part of the defined search area. The first detection was held for approximately 2 hours and 20 minutes. The ship then lost contact before conducting a turn and attempting to re-acquire the signal. The second detection on the return leg was held for approximately 13 minutes. On this occasion, two distinct pinger returns were audible. Significantly, this would be consistent with transmissions from both the Flight Data Recorder and the Cockpit Voice Recorder.

    +++ goes on worth reading

  • Reply to

    Found It (maybe)

    by techpath2000 Apr 5, 2014 11:15 AM
    donwshuper50 donwshuper50 Apr 7, 2014 10:39 AM Flag

    ur behind the updates. Aussie Angus Huston ( in charge ) spelled ou what the Aussie ship with U.S pinger locator found re signal for 2 plus hours in none direction and 13 plus minutes in another- about 100 nm north of chinese ship. Aussie or BBC has as usual much more credible info than the CNN idiocracy mh370 24/7 news. If nothing else, the Aussies and BBC dampen down the area 51- pakistan- diego garcia- crowd.

    still leaves the fire, decompression, little green men, rapture, tinfoil hat crowd room to bloviate.

    Until a piece of wreckage on surface or photoed underwater is shown, NOone with will confirm that the pingers ARE from 370.

  • Reply to

    Ok lets settle MH 370

    by crazyhorse1786 Mar 25, 2014 3:58 PM
    donwshuper50 donwshuper50 Apr 7, 2014 1:21 AM Flag

    still f o s

  • Reply to

    U.S Navy hears pingers for 2 hrs

    by donwshuper50 Apr 7, 2014 12:50 AM
    donwshuper50 donwshuper50 Apr 7, 2014 1:19 AM Flag

    SYDNEY—An Australian navy vessel picked up two extended signals from deep underwater in the past 24 hours, in what authorities said was the best lead yet in a monthlong search for missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370.

    The naval ship Ocean Shield—fitted with U.S. Navy black-box detector equipment that is able to pick up signals far beneath the ocean surface—has been searching an area of the southern Indian Ocean off the coast of Western Australia that investigators believe is the most likely spot where the plane could have crashed into the ocean when it ran out of fuel after disappearing from civilian radar on March 8.

    The first of two signals, consistent with the pings emitted by an aircraft’s “black box” flight recorders, was held for more than two hours, Air Chief Marshal Angus Houston, who is leading the multinational search, said Monday. A second signal was picked up on a return trip along the same path of ocean and held for around 13 minutes, he said.

  • Via towed array - takes about 3 hours to turn around- found sound again for 10 - 13 minutes . . .
    North end of current search area

    Two pingers !

  • donwshuper50 donwshuper50 Apr 6, 2014 9:15 PM Flag

    facebookspam11 said ..." Stick to your pension robbery conspiracies BS ..

    About pension ripoffs and how to put pension surplus into earnings . .
    A few facts for you
    From a Boeing letter to myself in 1999-2000

    “Before 1998, Boeing reflected pension expense rather than income. In 1998 and 1999, pension income represented 10.8% and 5.4% of net income and 7.7% and 3.9% of operating earnings. . . .

    As you mentioned in your e-mail, a Wall Street Journal article that appeared on September 20, 1999, cited a Bear Stearns study
    that had calculated Boeing's 1998 pension income to be 31% of total income. The
    Journal misquoted the Bear Stearns study; the true number was 7.7%. A s for the quote
    from the July 2000 Aviation Week article, Boeing's 1999 pension income was $125
    million. I do not know how the reporter arrived at a $500 million figure “

    Julie Curtis
    Director of Actuarial Services

    FROM BA PROXY FOR 2002 which I wrote and got about 50 million votes . .

    Boeing does not use excess plan investment gains to increase the benefits otherwise due any participant, but uses them to reduce or eliminate future Company contributions. Last year, the amount used was 428 Million, about 20 percent of net earnings.

    Search for baunionhelp on goog for more current facts and data and where to find them on boeing site . .

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