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H&R Block, Inc. Message Board

doontoothers2000 5 posts  |  Last Activity: Jan 17, 2015 10:58 AM Member since: Jul 2, 2003
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    by cf2050200002 Oct 20, 2014 10:50 AM
    doontoothers2000 doontoothers2000 Jan 17, 2015 10:58 AM Flag

    Block has the mentality that computers and 1st and 2nd year preparers are their money makers. Its one reason they have taken all reference material out of the office. Blocks wants clients to believe that every preparer has 100% tax knowledge. Pros know that's impossible. Pros will spend time with their nose in Quick Finder, or at the IRS website, or "pick the brains" of a coworker not because they don't know the answer, mostly to reinforce their own knowledge because the situation is rarely used, at least they are aware the situation does exist.. 1st & 2nd year preparers aren't even aware of all the forms available! If they report a rental sale on Sch D instead of 4797 would IRS even catch it? If they add mileage and food on Sch A, without using 2106 does it matter? (only to Block who lost the price of that form, but aren't aware of it). So they pay the newbie 10 bucks an hour, (or less from what I heard) and who knows how many forms the newbie skips? Block only sees 2 cheaper labor newbies can do the same number of returns as one pro, who's capable of making 25+ an hour. Greed wins, which makes me wonder if Block has setled for only wanting to do simple returns, and is throwing the high end clients away every time they lose another experienced pro, thinking they don't need them!

  • doontoothers2000 by doontoothers2000 Jan 6, 2015 8:59 AM Flag

    Dusting off the "good clothes", putting sneakers and sandals in the back of the closet, bringing the professional shoes to the front. Ordered Quick Finder, took 3 tests, got certified, paid for pin renewal, and its time to head to office for all those practice problems. Its almost like a winter sport with much to do before reaching the start line. What new rules, what new forms? How much do I have to forget, and how much do I have to learn? Cases of water & soda needs to be ordered, we know the UPS delivery man's name as cases of office supplies arrive and the back room fills. Pre-packs need to be put together, last years returns put in boxes, making room in the file cabinets. Catching up with co-workers, choosing our schedule, putting out pens and business cards and making sure the candy dish is full. The phone is already ringing, all 4 lines light up, mostly asking "how much do you charge?", or "can I file with my pay stub?" or "how long till I can get a refund?" YEP, it's a sport alright and may we all be blessed to make it to the finish line. 99 Days to go!

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    Block LOVES its Tax Pros!

    by nowon22001 Dec 7, 2014 8:32 AM
    doontoothers2000 doontoothers2000 Jan 3, 2015 10:36 AM Flag

    Cheaters cheat! Laws don't seem to bother them. Heck they'll help them make a written log and keep it on file if they feel the need. There is no way to prove a child is a niece or nephew, last names mean nothing. Its the way the tax codes are written that causes the fraud in the first place. How do we know, or how could we prove the husband moved out of the home in June and not Aug? When it comes to HH or married filing separately I think these folks are totally "street smart" in knowing the June deadline. Self employment is growing. There really are baby-sitter, and household workers, & lawn keepers that now file because of EIC, where before they considered it "under the table". It gives us way too much credit to think we can single out the liars by a long list of questions when they already know how to answer!
    I have taken in a street kid, who's parent abandoned him, and I found him sneaking into his friend's houses at night, just to be able to stay in town and finish high school. Guess what? His Mother claims him and the other 2 kids she abandoned at her sister's house for the EIC check. She hasn't given him a dime or a birthday card in 2 years, and asked him for money after he got a part time job, and left him with an $800 cell phone bill, after getting it in his name and not paying. (He's paying it because he wants to join the military and needs good credit) He's asked me not to turn her in, he still loves her, and is hoping for a reunion some day. I have to respect him enough not to get his Mom in trouble, but I do hate the fact she lives 80 miles away from where the kids attend school, and IRS doesn't notice there is no way they could be living with her.

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    Block LOVES its Tax Pros!

    by nowon22001 Dec 7, 2014 8:32 AM
    doontoothers2000 doontoothers2000 Dec 29, 2014 8:35 AM Flag

    I agree with losing RAL clients when the next day check went away, and I know we also lose EIC clients that didn't know the "answers" to all the due diligence questions. Once it's explained because of this or that answer they didn't qualify for EIC, they would take their W2 back and go else where, now knowing the "correct" answers. With thousands of dollars at stake for the truly poor desperate worker the risk of getting caught is too slim not to take the risk. Worst case would be making monthly payments to IRS, while 3-6K can buy them a used car to get them to work, or get caught up on back rent. I don't mean to imply that EIC clients are liars, as most do qualify, but we do know from IRS that billions in EIC refunds are fraudulent and most will not be caught. Due diligence will NOT stop fraud, just make professional preparers more cautions. Instead of a good interview, IRS wants us to be interrogators! The one due diligence question that has left me red faced more than once is "where is the other parent?"

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    by baddad007 Jun 24, 2014 9:56 AM
    doontoothers2000 doontoothers2000 Dec 5, 2014 9:05 AM Flag

    With the average tax season being 104 days (Jan 2-April 15) and the extended hours during peak, I don't believe an office could run with just one person per each hour open. Plus remember Liberty requires a waver which adds another employee. I can't imagine an office doing 300 returns, being able to pay a whole year's rent & utilities after royalties, wages, supplies and marketing. I don't think 500 returns could do it, unless they were all highly priced EIC clients. (which we are slowly losing since the RAL went away and clients realized they had to wait 2 weeks, and can now do it with turbo tax, and can avoid all the questions we have to ask for due diligence). To do higher priced returns, it means being in a wealthy neighborhood where rent can be outrageous for a new business. The hourly wage is not all an employer pays, with matching SS and unemployment tax it'll add another buck or two to the employer cost. 10 years ago, I know Block required 800 returns to keep an office open, and that's when they had all that "extra" income from RALS. A good experienced preparer can do 500-700 returns per season in a busy office, and will work full time and have over time during peak, I can't imagine them taking a preparer job that offers min. wage! AND, I do believe good experienced preparers are what gives a store it's reputation that helps it's growth, and retains clients. Maybe a little Mom & Pop kitchen table tax service can live on 300 returns with no rent, wages or royalties to pay, but a store front with a brand name? Don't think so!

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