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edmundaronson 504 posts  |  Last Activity: Jun 29, 2016 4:55 AM Member since: Jan 4, 2009
  • edmundaronson edmundaronson May 20, 2016 3:44 PM Flag

    typical crud-coeur was first to make it settlement with the coeur d alene tribe in 1991 then sunshine hlkept this in negotiation and lititgation till 3yrs ago-thats 25years after coeur pd-coeur formed silver valley with asarco the coeur mine galena and calday with galena the hub they shut the coeur mine and sold the package in 1996 when silver was 7.31-to us silver that couldn't make money had a aisc in high 30's and went through a r/s and then merged with scorpio still losing money and has 600,000,000shares
    -krebs was promoted when wheeler was fired he had been with coeur since 1995 and became ceo in 2011-krebs got a MBA at harvad theres a decade of age difference-he moved coeur not in haste but after a clerical disaster failed to pay mine taxes and almost lost rochestor mine it cost cde 30mill
    this was a disorganized company after three builds bolivia,mexico and alaska and coeurd alene was wheeler territoy-krebs did a complete shake up including a corprate move to chicago-his pregant wifes hometown and where he worked for 7 years with coeur
    hl has lobbyists in washington so did coeur
    hl paid out 170,000 in expenses and litagation was still going on over superfund
    coeur settled all their obligations with their indian settlement-built thunder mountain mine and won pacific west fist place envio award -settled all enviornmental matters on galena and coeur mines-this guy is a card carrying tin foil hat idiot

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    from hecla 10q files may 10 2006

    by edmundaronson May 19, 2016 6:20 PM
    edmundaronson edmundaronson May 20, 2016 7:19 AM Flag

    its this simple coeur settled first with the coeur dalene tribe 1991 then sunshine in 1991
    the govt and tribes joined their suits in1996 into one due to bankruptcies and settlements that left hecla after asarco bankruptcy-fit george was spouting coeur moved its corporate offices in 2012 to avoid clean ups he thought they never paid i 1991 and further at calday galena in 1996-20/25 years later a new ceo moves only 40 people to chicago-reason coeur has global aspirations vs regional,all new managment and cleaning out previous ceo's management,international hub,modern labor force IT oriented,access to stakeholders-

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    from hecla 10q files may 10 2006

    by edmundaronson May 19, 2016 6:20 PM
    edmundaronson edmundaronson May 20, 2016 7:01 AM Flag

    not with idiots like fit george spreading false info-it gets parroted til people think its true

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    superfund-coeur settles in 1991

    by edmundaronson May 19, 2016 3:20 AM
    edmundaronson edmundaronson May 20, 2016 4:23 AM Flag

    i spent 4-5 hrs usung internet reading from so many sources and you can't find any-you can try and re write history but you can't even navigate google--it starts with coeur didn't pay and ran away from its obligation-then it turns out they were the first to pay and you feel they didn't pay their fair share,then it was political connections -the settlement was with coeur d alene tribe-call your congessman,call your mommy

  • edmundaronson by edmundaronson May 19, 2016 6:20 PM Flag

    two of the defendent mining companies coeur d alene mines and sunshine mining and refining settled their liabilities under the litagation during 2001.We and asarco that filed for bankruptcy are the only two remaining in united stated litigation-page 10 Table of contents----this what hecla stated in their 10q-

    this not from 10q coeur dalene tribe named 8 miners in a suit coeur is the only one that settled with tribe releasing them from further litagation by us govt and tribe--
    you got to be pretty lazy --coeur has more info in their 10qs-its all over

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    superfund-coeur settles in 1991

    by edmundaronson May 19, 2016 3:20 AM
    edmundaronson edmundaronson May 19, 2016 1:37 PM Flag

    google coeur d alene settlement with coeur d alene tribe you will find
    superfund and mining megasites: lessons learned from coeur dalene river
    then superfund you can start from there
    i spent all morning reading all from google,it was fun its a trail follow asarco,rochestor coeur galena and calday forming silver valley the work done there the sale to us silver-i went throgh hrs of documents and coeur 10q from 2001 2002 under lititgation-

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    superfund-coeur settles in 1991

    by edmundaronson May 19, 2016 3:20 AM
    edmundaronson edmundaronson May 19, 2016 9:24 AM Flag

    is greens creek on public lands-hecla paid 170,000 into lobbiyist fund that halted a royalty on ore from public property--is that fair-

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    superfund-coeur settles in 1991

    by edmundaronson May 19, 2016 3:20 AM
    edmundaronson edmundaronson May 19, 2016 9:20 AM Flag

    first it was they left town -now you find they paid first and hl negotiated for over a decade into their 263 mill settlement
    -coeur had a 15 yr nsr and paid with old money
    -us govt thought it was fair, the coeur d alene tribe thought it was fair
    -coeur was not a smelter who knows how much they poluted galena still in production there was another settlement--
    -look in the mirror don't you see a fool trying to squirm his way out of being WRONG-my wife who's english is constantly bemoaning that its not fair-i recently saw a interview with baker showing how it used to be easy mining just dig the stuff up showing the good old days before permitting and enviornmetal issues-guess he didn't get the lesson-and this was a revett pump along with a congressman in his pocket on the pulpit about jobs-

  • seasonality, dollar,commercial short position and some big profits coming off the table-copper prices and chimese bubble-

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    superfund-coeur settles in 1991

    by edmundaronson May 19, 2016 3:20 AM
    edmundaronson edmundaronson May 19, 2016 7:07 AM Flag

    coeur by june 2001 had paid its monetary responsibilty to us govt but still had cleanup considerations at calday and a nsr of 2% on all properties up to a maximum of 3mill the royalty would run 15 years--hows that for a tap dance on your head

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    superfund-coeur settles in 1991

    by edmundaronson May 19, 2016 3:20 AM
    edmundaronson edmundaronson May 19, 2016 5:13 AM Flag

    thanks for the inpedus to read up on superfund and early history of mining in idaho amazing volume of info and it just proves your a bad equation and everything that comes out is wrong
    -krebs was not hired like you posted but chosen after years of working for coeur to replace ceo wheel
    coeur was a understaffed mess from building three mines and when they almost lost the rochestor mine to a clerical error that was it for old managment -rochestor was run like a mom and pop operation-a clean sweep was needed-
    as to krebs and obama there is almost a decade of age difference but those harvard boys are everywhere in places of power
    it was bad enough when you couldn't understand terminology ,now you have porblems with chronology-coeur settled first and coeur probably supported a vetoe of mining bill-wasn't obama a senator and wheeler ceo of coeur-krebs became ceo in 2011
    -i'm sure krebs and obama met walking the nature trails of coeur d alene
    maybe you should listen to krebs on bloomberg see who you are attacking-
    now before you throw a conniption fit and get full of some false self righteous indignation-CHECK YOUR FACTS

  • edmundaronson by edmundaronson May 19, 2016 3:20 AM Flag

    idaho sued existing mining companies for 50million it was settled 4.9 million in 1991 the coeur d'alene tribe filed another NAD suit against 8 mining companies only one settled coeur d'alene mining-in 1996 the united states joined in this suit
    there goes all that righteous crud out the window--
    SEEMS CDE PAID FIRST AND HECLA LAST it was the denoement or 20 yrs of litagation
    may 2001 us district court approves consent decree between us govt and coeur and callahan a 3.8 milion dollar settlement was reached

  • edmundaronson by edmundaronson May 18, 2016 3:26 PM Flag

    "betting on silver" this was krebs most competent interview, a far cry from wheeler days- cool dude up there -made his point just like the fed minutes and the commercial shorts-

  • edmundaronson edmundaronson May 18, 2016 3:06 PM Flag

    thats your problem you try to think-your a bad equation and anything you run through it comes out with wrong answer-you should try being right
    -hl was the serial polluter, heclas lobby bill was as high as 170,000 during its negotiation with washington over superfund,its lobbyist was national enviormentalist advancement or somthing like that,
    it was coeur who built the thunder gold mine in idaho1986 and won first place pacific northwest envionmental award
    ,it was you who thought they sold galena too cheap, at 15mill with 7.31 silver because a decade later with silver 37.00 hecla offered 100 something million cash and were turned down-when it sold galena, coeur bought rochestor from asarco for 10mill and a royalty-still producing 4/5 mill oz's a year and 50,000 gold while "us silver and gold" lost money 2012 2013 2014 2015
    -hl has not even paid the fine for the death of its employee because it will pejudice the case and has the family dragging it to suprene court
    -coeur went global 7 properties in chile with two mines,a mine in argentina,bolivia,mexico,new zealand,australia,nevada and alaska and two years ago moved out of regional coeur dalene with new ceo and began replacing all management and mine managers and some of board and fit george says they ran away to avoid epa and its responsibility to locals when they moved their 65 person corporate headquarters to chicago -it was now krebs company and the stiigma of ceo wheeler-a thing of past-

  • edmundaronson edmundaronson May 18, 2016 9:58 AM Flag

    hecla pays 130,000 for lobbyists in washington and FIT brings up some company in vedvegas that stood for the nevada miners assoc that coeur was involved with for a year in nevada that gave 2,300 to obama campaign-and this particular firm states it never talked mining reform with obama- coeur is us leading producer of silver ,krebs is head of silver institute-the whole mining industry was going to suffer from thar bill -a royalty from minerals taken fron public lands hl would get killed at greens creek

  • edmundaronson edmundaronson May 18, 2016 9:17 AM Flag

    silver has a history of wild swings and prolonded periods of low prices-mines were closed or put on care and maintence and later reopened silver swung from 4 up to highof 50.00 back to 4.00 to,7.00 11.00 2.0 then credit crises back to under 10.00 then up 48.00 and down to 12.50--hl has been blessed with high grade and long life mines and by productsome countries have political unrest,or currency controls and taxes
    usa has enviornmentalists and a legal process of permitting-hl got nailed with superfund for past pollution-but if you want stable in the volotile silver market hl is it-but in an up market
    san sebastion has added to bottom line in conference call this is what anaylsts wanted to find out
    alot of us own both hl and cde,i chose to trade hl and buy hl options while buying coeur at 1.65 and having a core bought at .56 and day trading ,swing trading and buying put when the shares went to high too fast and long options as stock replacement in high 30's-sold trading position at 24 and bought puts--i have recomended hl over coeur during this sector collapse-grade and a long history of surviving--but that FIT guy is dumb as a rock and unrighteous but hes born again-

  • not only did coeur not run away but developed in 1986 thunder mountain gold and won pacific northwest pollution controls first place award and combined coeur mine, galena mine and calday into silver valley
    coeur mine later closed and sale of galena to us silver in 1996- coeur went on to have two mines in chile,one in alaska ,new zealand australia,argentina and mexico-thats global while hl stayed regional- coeur moved to chicago because of global aspirations,tax benefits ,interational airport- noFIT thinks coeur ceo in league with obama--did this gut fall on his head-they also considered dallas -then FIT would have been into jfk territoryconspiracy

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    kensington-stuff you find in juneau news

    by edmundaronson May 17, 2016 10:05 AM
    edmundaronson edmundaronson May 18, 2016 6:34 AM Flag

    that martha mine and mill was only 3 mill cash and in two payments-at the time coeur was negotiating these deals including nsr's i would say it was trying to protect balance -first two quarters are the heaviest capital expenditures--

  • edmundaronson by edmundaronson May 18, 2016 4:49 AM Flag

    as of dec 31 coeur has delivered 370,672 of the 400,000 minimum which will terminate the old franco agreement-franco states this will be reached mid 2016-franco has a full page on palmarejo on website
    it is new as of april-

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    by edmundaronson May 15, 2016 9:03 AM
    edmundaronson edmundaronson May 18, 2016 2:16 AM Flag

    one country one metal as kieth numeyer says and no ex pats -like silver with gold by product and diversity
    righteousness is issue seemed the right people got hit- galena mine had been asarco --next thing you will have krebs and obama on ellen together --the time line of leaving coeur d alene doesn't fit the superfund like twenty years latermining the land bank numeyer is setting upo with dilution-put your tin hat on-and if you want a ponzi scheme look at a first mining finance

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