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edmundaronson 478 posts  |  Last Activity: 10 hours ago Member since: Jan 4, 2009
  • this is coming and damages owed by hl for several other cleanups-could run as high as 100mill-you can find this early in 10Q-i thought they were all paid off- hl painted a broad stroke on these settlements-

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    fit george and dismal thinking

    by edmundaronson May 8, 2016 7:53 AM
    edmundaronson edmundaronson May 8, 2016 12:52 PM Flag

    where did your 49% recoveries come from-or the fact you put out coeurs aisc for silver equivilents 60-1 ratio vs the current aisc of realized silver equivilents
    cash cost is not close to AISC--cash costs in mining are on site admin cost of production at site level per unit output including transport ,refining and on site admin-you compaired cash cost to AISC two different animals-i'm starting to think that GOLD zinc and lead should be co products not by products-hl goes too length to attempt to explain why it classifies it this way-

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    ok...horses...NOT a colt...cool dude...

    by geomessenger_2000 May 6, 2016 9:59 AM
    edmundaronson edmundaronson May 8, 2016 10:35 AM Flag

    who did two years in jail for--in my area of country and age he would have been a counter culture hero-cambridge and boston has so many students-

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    fit george and dismal thinking

    by edmundaronson May 8, 2016 7:53 AM
    edmundaronson edmundaronson May 8, 2016 10:31 AM Flag

    early in 10q for first quarter 2016-there are multiple cases--some of these are re impursing the govt for clean ups--hl has planned for x amt---i hate these little hidden surprises-i think this has been ongoing--this was just a knee jerk reaction but thought you would like to read it-they don't make it easy i'm exhausted from legalize and small print-but you should learn to read these-

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    fit george and dismal thinking

    by edmundaronson May 8, 2016 7:53 AM
    edmundaronson edmundaronson May 8, 2016 9:43 AM Flag

    horses- in reaction to hl i just started reading hl 10q and they have EPA liabilties and litagation on cleanups that at best runs into 10's million to 100,000 million-these are owed to govt-i think you should read-and there are multiple cases-hl will not win these its just how much they pay-hl can't assure that these will not interfere with operations-they also state significant costs are expected for 2016 at lucky friday and this is liked to cash flow from sa sebastion
    its amazing what dirt one can dig up in 15minutes--the worst is dealing with cleanups because the goct and states have you by the nuts-pull up hl's 10q there is just so much financial but they have reads throughtout-hl allready pd govt about 250mill and i thought they were clear in that area

  • edmundaronson by edmundaronson May 8, 2016 7:53 AM Flag

    unmigated gall trying to compare cash cost with AISC-and his ignorence of the difference betweenrealized silver equivilents and silver equivilent when using 60-1 ratiocoeur had huge jumps in recoveries into high 80's for silver and mid 90's gold -one mine is at 61% silbver mid 80's gold a huge heap leach-while unfit staes coeurs avg recovery 49%-his illogical comparisons and outright lies has been reprinted over at cde-this is the king of basher mentality from a long-he should check his facts recant his post-as well as apologise to longs of cde that also are in hl-to disparage with incorrect information drives of potential investors-unfit you see how your leakage jumps boards-when you pea into the wind expect blowback-no moral highground for you

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    HL 2016 Guidance vs CDE 2016 Guidance

    by fitt.george May 7, 2016 12:38 PM
    edmundaronson edmundaronson May 8, 2016 7:10 AM Flag

    bolivia recoveries jumped 9% to 93% with added oxygen,palmarejo ha jumped recovers foe silkver up11% to 89% and gold from 83% to 92% up 19%-wharfs at 96% and kensington 95.8%-as you can see i looked up facts-you have intentionaly mis represented coeurs recoveries-

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    CDE vs HL

    by horses2536 May 7, 2016 8:04 PM
    edmundaronson edmundaronson May 8, 2016 6:45 AM Flag

    found a quote of document 61%silver 92% gold from rye patch next door to rochestor using coeur added crusgher and its recovery rates-

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    CDE vs HL

    by horses2536 May 7, 2016 8:04 PM
    edmundaronson edmundaronson May 8, 2016 6:36 AM Flag

    don't know but recently they reported raised recoveries with addition og 2nd crusher--maybe it has to do with heap leach cycles but believe me fit george did a unfit job-i don't know where he got 49%,why he bothered to compare cash cost and AISC that everybody uses except hl and uses wrong figures for coeurs AISC
    i have looked back on sveral quarters and not finding recoveries rochestor-i know rye patch mining held rochestors recoveries with added crusher as a goal post for them-coeurs revenues were higher than hl and is shares structue 384mill for hl and 153mill for coeur--
    coeres bolivia mine recoveries just jumped 9% to 93% thats huge,palmarejo has jumped up recoveries 11% to 89% for silver and 19% for gold to 92%-wharf 96.6%-kensington 95.8%-does that sound anywhere near his 49%-ill keep looking to find a quote on rochestors

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    HL 2016 Guidance vs CDE 2016 Guidance

    by fitt.george May 7, 2016 12:38 PM
    edmundaronson edmundaronson May 8, 2016 5:19 AM Flag

    fit george you compare cash cost to aisc silver equivilent-and you either through ignorance don't you the 13.75 realized silver equivilent that coeur posts as aisc silver equivilent is at 60-1 not the realized 73-83 silver ozs for one of gold-also i just did a mine by mine look at recovery rate from 85%-95% don't know wher you get 49%
    hl has grade but why don't they use AISC-all cde presentations give cash cost and AISC in silver equivilents and the proper realized silver equivilents--
    coeur has a much lower share structure so when coeur hits the inflection point of profitability eps will jump dramatically---fit george your figures are off dramatically and comparisons are different categories-cash cost vs AISC and the recoveries -i suggest you check recoveries mine by mine they are very high and rising with efficiencies to agitation circuit ,an extra crusher at rochestor-where you got 49% is pure crappola coeur is proud of its advances in recovery - 378 million shares as of dec 31 coeur 153mill---if your trying to be deceptive poor showing on your part-

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    CDE vs HL

    by horses2536 May 7, 2016 8:04 PM
    edmundaronson edmundaronson May 8, 2016 3:48 AM Flag

    number one you are using silver equivilent aisc not realized silver equivilents-silver equivilent aisc uses 60-1 silver to gold ratio when in reality it has been 75 to 823 oz silver for 1 oz gold-cash cost is totally different from aisc with includes exploration, G&A, capital, expenses etc and production costs
    as to recoveries your numbers are wa way off -earnings report shows mine by mine shows and its high 80's to 95% -hl avoids aisc-
    -again go to coeur presentation and look at difference to realized cash cost per silver equivilent and cash cost silver equivilent also aisc realizes silver equiv to aisc silver equivilent -coeur charts both again discrepency come from ratio coeur used 60-1 most companies are using 75 -1 its called GSR gold to silver ratio-all figures using silver equivilent are off-this is footnoted
    grade becomes important on costs because you need to move less material to get same amt of ozs lowering costs
    i did find one oddity rochestor does not report recoveries in first or 4th quarter-although all other mines did-coeur has been very vocal on its increased recoveries and grade-

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    ok...horses...NOT a colt...cool dude...

    by geomessenger_2000 May 6, 2016 9:59 AM
    edmundaronson edmundaronson May 7, 2016 3:14 PM Flag

    hay is for horses-just playin-notmrant as insult-hl has webcast of earnings

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    ok...horses...NOT a colt...cool dude...

    by geomessenger_2000 May 6, 2016 9:59 AM
    edmundaronson edmundaronson May 7, 2016 3:12 PM Flag

    google it-rick rule and interviews robert friedland-this is a verbal interview

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    ok...horses...NOT a colt...cool dude...

    by geomessenger_2000 May 6, 2016 9:59 AM
    edmundaronson edmundaronson May 7, 2016 9:48 AM Flag

    hay horses-great interview rick rule and rodger friedland-tow of industry giants
    hl webcast of confence calls archived -sebastion was on callers minds

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    ok...horses...NOT a colt...cool dude...

    by geomessenger_2000 May 6, 2016 9:59 AM
    edmundaronson edmundaronson May 7, 2016 2:44 AM Flag

    no shares,just a troll looking to disrupt-a loonet tune that followed vcar from gss board-

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    ok...horses...NOT a colt...cool dude...

    by geomessenger_2000 May 6, 2016 9:59 AM
    edmundaronson edmundaronson May 6, 2016 10:54 AM Flag

    geo whats up with platinum group metals -just saw they did a revse 10-1 stopped following them-they just diluted --now may be a time after they has reamed everybody-alot like cde when i first bought-

  • edmundaronson by edmundaronson May 6, 2016 7:12 AM Flag

    this doesnot include the warrants that came with kootenay shares as part of merger,coeur pledged its shares and sold back itts 2.5% nsr for 500,000 and 9.6 million shares-northair had been financedby coeur with private placements and most recently the NSR-this is a cherry deposit with 63 mill oz n-43-101 the first and very unexplored-kooteny just joint ventured with paas on their promotrio deposit and are carried to production so the merger with northair was necessary for them to move into a drill program with coeur watching as possible jv partner
    yesterday kootenany had an exploration release on another area of interest at the newly acquired la cigarra
    their is a astute poster that is probably a geo that had position in northair and he has allways believed that la cigarra is a 100-200mill oz project-the new drilling will focus on ram zone and the area of this news release-they have a thesis and now a plan with kootenays experienced geos -rasmussen has visited this twice-they liked it alot--kootenay good value at .30 but it is an explorerr and project generator now-the good ones have managed to survive--coeur 11% paas 10% and jv and aem has shares-for paas part in jv they are giving kootenay choice of 2 of 4 packages to move forward---

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    a wild ride, eh, horses?

    by geomessenger_2000 May 5, 2016 9:12 PM
    edmundaronson edmundaronson May 6, 2016 1:55 AM Flag

    nice post-hi ho silver

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    edmund

    by swampmanthe May 5, 2016 9:05 PM
    edmundaronson edmundaronson May 6, 2016 1:49 AM Flag

    hl beat,coeur beat-it has all been discounted by the huge rise in market-

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    entertainment value...

    by geomessenger_2000 May 4, 2016 1:57 PM
    edmundaronson edmundaronson May 5, 2016 4:16 PM Flag

    totally different silver was in 20's back then-your the one who is mental -you wanted buybacks well coeur did-also bought preciosa with 2/3 shares in low 20's and wharf for cash 900,000gold ozswhats your fixation on krebs-just buy more physical-cheap-

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