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edvacourt 10 posts  |  Last Activity: Jul 27, 2014 7:03 PM Member since: Oct 23, 2012
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    How close are they?

    by jarangutang21 Jul 27, 2014 5:33 PM
    edvacourt edvacourt Jul 27, 2014 7:03 PM Flag

    Great question and one that is only answered by actually getting there. The only thing people have to go by is the actual evidence which is as follows:

    1.2V announced- February 2014
    1.0V announced-August 2013
    0.75V announced-May 2013
    .020V announced-January 2013

    Major milestones left to achieve:

    1.23V-theoretical voltage for splitting Water into Hydrogen and Oxygen
    1.5V-necessary for mass production

    So the next move is big for many reasons. No one is thinking that they get to 1.5V at next announcement in my view. But do they make a10% leap which would take them to 1.32V and over a major milestone or do they make it 20% which would take them to 1.44V and within the most minuscule of striking distances to the promised land? My guess is between 1.3-1.35V. This will and should be seen as an enormous accomplishment and not only will Hypersolar receive scientific community credit, they should receive considerable interest from the business community (if indeed they haven't already). Just my two cents.

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • edvacourt by edvacourt Jul 27, 2014 3:56 PM Flag

    Interesting week behind us. Either Tim Young or his PR person must have realized that people don't really understand exactly what (and perhaps how important) it is that HYSR is doing in terms of its drive to literally fuel our future, whether for large industry, home or transport vehicles (to begin with). They have a little ways to go but I think it is pretty encouraging that even after getting the day-trader crowd out at the end of the week this stock seems to want to keep building a base and move higher. The fact that it is below .05 right now astounds me given where it has the potential to go with the next meaningful announcement. It traded 60M shares between Tuesday and Wednesday which seems to show two things. One, that investors who have followed HYSR have not forgotten about it and two, new investors are again beginning to take note. We saw successive days of HYSR trading over 100M shares in March and my guess is that kind of volume may again be in our short term future. In any event it is not a great idea to go to sleep on this one. This is my view alone. As always do your own due diligence or consult a trusted financial advisor.

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • Reply to

    how much does a

    by tng6204535 Jul 11, 2014 1:18 PM
    edvacourt edvacourt Jul 15, 2014 2:41 PM Flag

    Right. And you have researched what they are actually doing and spoken with the CEO? Have you reviewed the joint patents filed with UCSB, one of the leading research universities in the United States? They have sold stock to continue the research and pay for SEC filings, period. The CEO makes bubkis and is incentivized through a modest share structure. You can think anything you want but the science is quite real and is advancing. I expect major announcements within the next 90 days. If people are impatient they clearly don't get the implications of what is being done at UCSB. The Nature article was a big clue and was written by someone with ties to the JCAP research being done at UC Berkeley (Berkeley Labs). Hmm...wonder why that was? What is there interest in what is happening at Hypersolar? People have to use their heads. It is easy to be a naysayer but this company is going places. Yes, they are tiny now AND they make no attempt to hide that. One significant breakthrough (like surpassing 1.23V) will change the whole equation overnight. If people can afford to be just a little bit patient I believe they will be rewarded here. Just my view, not an endorsement for anyone to do anything.

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

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    what is the reason for a 1.5

    by tng6204535 Jun 30, 2014 1:55 PM
    edvacourt edvacourt Jul 2, 2014 4:08 PM Flag

    Not when you are talking about soluble bags and cheap ingredients, no, much cheaper than extracting hydrogen with expensive non-renewable sources and then bearing the shipping costs to get it to wherever it is needed. Onsite production is the wave of the future whether HYSR is involved and makes it happen or not.

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

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    what is the reason for a 1.5

    by tng6204535 Jun 30, 2014 1:55 PM
    edvacourt edvacourt Jul 2, 2014 3:30 PM Flag

    It doesn't mean that it can't be engineered to last longer but this is a big stride. Keep in mind it is one encapsulated solar-powered pocket involved in this experiment. Imagine if there is a farm with thousands of them, thousands which are able to be renewed because of the basic elements used. Hypersolar seems to be ahead of a group of MIT scientists in figuring out that using Bromine allows for faster Hydrogen production and stable energy storage that is renewable. The process starts itself over again using the same basic ingredients.

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

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    what is the reason for a 1.5

    by tng6204535 Jun 30, 2014 1:55 PM
    edvacourt edvacourt Jun 30, 2014 4:29 PM Flag

    1.2V is not suitable for commercial production-it is not even quite at the level of what they have referred to as the theoretical voltage number for Hydrogen extraction which is 1.23V. I think HYSR will first announce something north of the 1.23V which could be very soon and then will update as they move up toward the 1.5V. Today's news is important because by stating that their "patent pending polymer coating, when applied to a bromine electrode in a wireless solar powered particle, resulted in 170 continuous hours of hydrogen production" they are confirming that this methodology can take them to their goal of 1.5V which is the mother of all game changers. They have not stated anything so clearly on this subject previously.

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • Reply to

    why hysr has great potential

    by jmercurya Apr 2, 2014 1:11 PM
    edvacourt edvacourt Jun 29, 2014 8:04 PM Flag

    The reason they are using this method is that it is one of the only cost effective ways to produce this on a mass scale. Extracting hydrogen isn't the issue, that can be done-the point is trying to do it in a way that makes financial sense. That is as much of HYSR's goal as the extraction itself. No point at all in costly extraction! Health risk? Not sure what you would be referring to. No one is suggesting people use toxic waste after all! That sounds like another red herring comment but since I see very few questions/comments on here that seem aimed at legitimate scientific issues I am not surprised.

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • Reply to

    why hysr has great potential

    by jmercurya Apr 2, 2014 1:11 PM
    edvacourt edvacourt Jun 27, 2014 11:32 AM Flag

    Part two from my earlier thoughts is as follows: Once HYSR passes the 1.23V mark I would expect them to actively pursue a partnership if they are not already having those discussions. I think the interest will be there on the part of current companies in the space as well as those offering grant money. It is also possible that HYSR takes more significant funding from PE at that point. My money has never been on HYSR being around to actively market however as you mentioned. As they close in on the 1.5V number I think far more infrastructure and funding are a necessity. Tim Young is smart enough to know that in its current state HYSR would only slow that process down by trying to go it alone. So as has been my thought from the beginning, I see the 1.23V level as a game changer for a host of reasons. At its current valuation, given upside v. downside ratio, I can't see why speculative investment funds are not highly viable to place here. I understand that people get impatient with lack of news and that those with thin knowledge will always have their hand on the sell button as they look for the next golden egg. I'm not playing that game and placed my bet here long ago which I have only added to as the opportunity has presented itself. I do think that the larger fuel cell energy companies have an effect on HYSR as the excitement about the space is controlled by their movements. Having said that, the prospect of onsite hydrogen production is a monumental one that would wind up being the engine for so many of these companies if they could control it.

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

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    why hysr has great potential

    by jmercurya Apr 2, 2014 1:11 PM
    edvacourt edvacourt Jun 27, 2014 8:12 AM Flag

    century...here is what I know. First, there is no timetable on science so to say with clarity how close they are would be a fool's errand. What I do know is this. They have moved 10% or better on their voltage number with each recent announcement and those announcements have been in short clusters (look it up). The first significant number to reach is 1.23V which is the recognized number for Hydrogen extraction. They are at 1.2V now. If they maintain their 10% movement they would move to 1.32V and that would be the first breakthrough. That level is not enough yet for commercial production but they will be within spitting distance of it needing only .18V to go. I will write later today to broaden these thoughts but unfortunately work calls right now. Thanks for your thoughts.

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • Reply to

    why hysr has great potential

    by jmercurya Apr 2, 2014 1:11 PM
    edvacourt edvacourt Jun 26, 2014 3:07 PM Flag

    This is quite clearly not a scam. Hypersolar is small and for much of its existence has been underfunded but so many breakthroughs happen with little companies like HYSR doing important research at places like UCSB. Another poster made an inference about molybdenum and a scientific publication by Ting Cao and others titled "Valley-selective circular dichroism of monolayer molybdenum disulphide" which was published in June of 2012, wondering whether it somehow compromises HYSR's patent application. Then we see the ridiculous notion that because HYSR has not received a major grant yet that this must mean they aren't legitimate. Is it not enough validation to have a major research university continue to not only extend their agreements with Hypersolar but to also file joint patents with them? We have no idea whether HYSR has sought any grants or if they are in current discussions for any. They are close enough to significant breakthroughs that their strategy may well be to press for grants after they can announce one. In any event there is no reference to suggest the Cao publication is somehow in conflict with Hypersolar's Patent which discusses and reveals a complex set of steps centralized around a conducive coating (as opposed to a two-dimensional honeycomb lattice in Cao's publication). There are two patent citations which refer to "films" that were referenced in HYSR's patent which is a more apt comparison but clearly the invention that HYSR has put forth is both novel and new when considered in its entirety and by independent claims. I'm not quite sure what the motivation is to create unfounded and frivolous arguments that have a legitimate ring to them but it seems to be misplaced to discourage investors from making an investment that though it contains risk may provide significant short and long term upside. Disclaimer: My group is long HYSR; do your own due diligence and/or consult with a trusted financial adviser.

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

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