OH THE HUMANITY! 323K shares need to be covered only a day before this earth shattering SA contract news hits.
Just look at the panicked shorts rushing in to cover their folly./sarc
And while we discuss this bio nonsense, we're not focusing on the real value of the company. That is AWRE's IP that managed to slip out the back door without any explanation of who to, and for how much?
I'm done discussing bio until we find that out.
No one is denying Aware's involvement. The Lockheed contract which consisted of scanning existing FP's found on legacy booking cards in FBI file cabs and typing the attached textual data into a searchable digital template form is hardly my idea of cutting edge, high margin business. That was proven in the #$%$ earnings numbers.
What we are denying is the monetary value of this involvement. Without that, who gives a flying fork?
BTW, nice smoke screen but you still haven't shown me the filing disclosing ."key segmentation algorithms used in Aware’s SequenceCheck SDK – core algorithms of the Next Generation Identification system."
Why don't you just admit that your idea of due diligence is reading the exaggerations posted on someones LinkedIn profile.
Posting undisclosed material info on public social networking site is a SEC violation. If not true, show me the AWRE filing that discloses this?..."key segmentation algorithms used in Aware’s SequenceCheck SDK – core algorithms of the Next Generation Identification system."
The only face I'd like to see identified right now is yours savedoneamen. As of this minute, bio has been a total bust financially. If it is so valuable, why hasn't someone stepped up to buy it?
I'm going weary of all the secrecy.
BTW, I don't think the legal folks at Aware are going to be very pleased with 'that fellows' LinkedIn profile.
No guarantee AWRE inside.
65--Handheld Mobile Biometric Capture Device, to include:
Solicitation Number: 20076374
Agency: Department of Homeland Security
Office: Customs and Border Protection
Location: Procurement Directorate - DC
So let me see if I got this straight about this ...5989 patent.
1. It belongs to accenture.
2. Aware licenses it to use in some of it's products.
3. Socks/Toobad/Helpbash cannot provide proof of any path to significant revenue for Aware shareholders using these products.
4. Meanwhile, Aware assigns it's own patents to unknown entities, for unknown value, we complain about it and we're the cranks on this board.
"are you looking at what we do know?"...
I don't know who the "we" is in that question. What I know is that you have sent the readers of this board on countless dead end bio searches that have added little if any significant value to our understanding of what is going on.
I'd put your credibility on about the same scale as our President these days.
Radio. That question can be asked of the entire US equity market.
I'm in the camp that says it's in bubble territory right now. Perhaps what's happening is that fund managers are turning over rocks looking for stocks with decent balance sheets that haven't moved yet rather that continue to put even more new money into stocks TSLA, Facebook and Linked in.
It could be as simple as that. I watch Aware option trading very closely and can report to you that activity there has been sparse during this big volume and price rise. IMO a big uptick in near expiration call volume would be indicative of insider knowledge positive news.
1. the FBI discovered that Alwan had been arrested in Kirkuk, Iraq, in 2006 and confessed on video made of his interrogation then that he was an insurgent,
2. In 2007, Alwan went through a border crossing to Syria and his fingerprints were entered into a biometric database maintained by U.S. military intelligence in Iraq, a Directorate of National Intelligence official said. Another U.S. official insisted that fingerprints of Iraqis were routinely collected and that Alwan's fingerprint file was not associated with the insurgency.
3. In 2009 Alwan applied as a refugee and was allowed to move to Bowling Green
4. Last year, a Department of Homeland Security senior intelligence official testified in a House hearing that Alwan and Hammadi's names and fingerprints were checked by the FBI, DHS and the Defense Department during the vetting process in 2009 and "came in clean."
5. The FBI secretly taped Alwan bragging to the informant that he'd built a dozen or more bombs in Iraq and used a sniper rifle to kill American soldiers in the Bayji area north of Baghdad.
6. The case drew attention at the highest levels of government, FBI officials told ABC News, when TEDAC forensic investigators tasked with finding IEDs from Bayji dating back to 2005 pulled 170 case boxes and, incredibly, found several of Alwan's fingerprints on a Senao-brand remote cordless base station. A U.S. military Significant Action report on Sept. 1, 2005 said the remote-controlled trigger had been attached to "three homemade-explosive artillery rounds concealed by gravel with protruding wires."
So the screw up seems to be at step 1 in this chain when Alwan was arrested in Kirkuk but his FP's were never properly enrolled in the bad guy data base.
Company named Ciencia...
Fingerprints can be generally classified into three types: visible, impression and latent. Of these, visible fingerprints can be photographed directly, and impression fingerprints can usually be photographed under special lightning conditions. Latent fingerprints, however, are more difficult to record since they first must be made visible...
Ciencia has developed proprietary fluorescent reagents that are highly effective for visualization of latent lipid fingerprint images. These reagents directly label the lipid components of fingerprints with high sensitivity and extremely low background fluorescence. Moreover, the reagents are effective with old as well as fresh fingerprints. Based on this technology Ciencia is developing a number of products including reagents and imaging instrumentation targeted to the forensics, national security and public safety markets.
I learned this from this article..."Barbero is credited with leveraging the Kentucky case to help the FBI get funding to create a new state of the art fingerprint lab focused solely on its**** IED repository in a huge warehouse outside Washington.****The new FBI lab assists counterterrorism investigations of suspected bombmakers and IED emplacers and looks for latent prints on 100,000 IED remnants collected over the past decade by the military and stored in the vast TEDAC warehouse. ."
So logically if you think about it, processing everyone of this IED fragments in the field is impossible so over the years they've shipped them back to the States and kept them in boxes. It would be really interesting to know HOW a fragment is processed for FP's today. We know about the original 'dusting and taping' method from years ago. Since then we know that a digital photo now replaces the tape part. But I guess my question is how do they 'discover and reveal' FP's on tens of thousands of fragments?
Google this article posted today:
Exclusive: US May Have Let 'Dozens' of Terrorists Into Country As Refugees
Read it closely and then we can have an intelligent discussion about the value of fingerprint databases. Were AWRE fits financially into the mix I don't know. But the last PR puts them in it.
FYI...according to this article 70,000 Iraqi refugees have been settled in the US since the invasion.
The only thing that 'escapes' me is why you trust Aware management. Your non-answer tells me you can't without suffering negative consequences. There is no other possible explanation. Non disclosure seems to be a consistent strategy with you folks. It's ok. I get it now. Just do me a favor and quit insulting our intelligence with all this bio BS.
Poster/s using the handles Toobad, Helpbash, Socksdog, etc. seem to rush to managements defense every time we ask for disclosure of the details of a significant portion of Awares IP.
This dance has continued for years now and I just don't understand it. Both sides in the debate are very, very long the stock and one side seems to trust management and applaud their performance and the other just the opposite.
For those of you that trust, please help me to understand why? What is it that you know that I don't? What am I missing?
Let me give you an example. Imagine you're a partner in a used car lot that on Friday had 10 cars in inventory that you paid $20,000 each for. On Monday you come to work and there were only 9 cars, wouldn't you like to know who bought the tenth and how much they paid? Of course you would.
What if your partner gave you $5,000 and told you he sold the car to Alpha,LLC. and that the price was half of what you paid for the car? Wouldn't you ask who Alpha, LLC was and how did he arrive at the price? Of course you would.
Now imagine that you trusted your partner for your entire life. He was a friend of yours that you grew up with. He was godfather to your kids and you to his.
On Tuesday you come in and you have 8 cars left, wouldn't you like to know who bought the ninth and how much they paid? Of course you would.
What if this time your partner gave you another $5,000 and told you he sold the car to Beta,LLC. and that the price was again half of what you paid for the car? Wouldn't you ask who Beta, LLC was and how did he arrive at the price? Of course you would.
Well from my point of view, my Aware car lot has at least 4 cars missing now. I don't know who bought them, and whether I received fair value. What I do know is that my partner has not disclosed material information that I've requested numerous times and he has stopped talking to me for the past 4 years.
Why do you trust a partner that treats you that way?
Dividends? I certainly didn't forget them. What I can't forget is where the cash came from to distribute those dividends. In case you forgot, let me remind you that it came from the sale of patents not biometrics.
In the case of the IP sale to Intel, the transaction was fully disclosed in a perfectly transparent manner. In the case of Daphimo, TQ Delta and the Hybrid Audio affair it was not.
Management has discontinued conference calls and stone walls any and all investor inquiry into these transactions. Many on this YMB agree that the disposition of significant shareholder assets should be done in a transparent manner. Apparently you disagree and are satisfied with the crumbs you were offered. I am not.