The volume is 3-7x typical volume. Lots of speculators jumping in here. I don't believe VJ told Roth anything about results -- that's total BS. I have loaded up on this over the years and hope that the results are great. I realize that this is a big #$%$ shoot but have always had hope in the pDNA science with regards to anti-viruses. We just need to get to proof of concept here. Herpes and CMV are great targets with huge marketability.