Tesla is $500 per year for service contract. M5 is zero for 4 years. That is 2k you have to spend for 4 year service contract at Tesla.
In 10 years you will be buying a new battery pack for 30 grand. Add that to your annual cost. Another 3 grand per year. Now you are at $3500/yr over 10 years.
Nobody drives a car 2 million miles. gimme a break. Any BMW will go 100's of thousands of miles. Your tesla and BMW will be scrapped at 150k to 200k miles.
Also how much you save on gas depends how many miles you put on. Is your alleged 500 savings include what you pay for electricity? 500/month on gas saved would be 150 gallons. At 20 mpg that is 3000 miles per month. You drive triple the average working commuting american. Congrats. You need a tesla.
Fund managers selling CELG and some other names to raise funds for twitter IPO tonight. Watch Twitter tank on the first trade and burn every one of them. They will be buying back into CELG once they dump Twitter to the sheep
You were off by a little more than a month!
Today answers my original questions on what month the bubble pops. Down to under 50 she goes
Anyone listen to the call? I missed it. what did they say that caused the big drop?
I own a '13 BMW M5. I test drove the Tesla Model S today. It is a fine car but for the P85+ model with most options you clock in at around 110k after federal credit. You can get a '14 BMW M5 for the same money or less. Let me tell you as an owner and prospective Tesla Model S buyer that the BMW M5 is alot more car for the money than the Model S.
If you are going to drive just one sedan I could not understand why you would buy a Model S over an M5 unless you just love the novelty of "owning an electric only" car. The M is more luxurious, better ride, faster 0 to anything, first class technology packages. I was looking at the S as another car for m collection and could possibly still consider it but if I had to choose just one it is no contest.
If you are a Model S buyer go drive the new BMW M5. I guarantee unless you MUST have electric power for whatever reason (green, novelty, etc) there is no way you will buy the Model S over the M5. The difference is that much more dramatic. The fit, finish, comfort of the M5 is well above the Model S.
Not saying the Model S is poor or of low quality. It appears to have a good quality but can't compare. Sorry.
I am excited to test drive the Model S tomorrow to find out what the hype is all about. If it is as great as everyone says I shall buy Tesla stock no matter what price it is. I am thinking 100 years ahead. The stock will be cheap by then. I will probably be dead but who cares. I will give the stock to my heirs!
Correct. this is how bubbles work. this could go on for years. as long as fed continues it is all systems go. up up and away
Stock is going to $1000. Once you disconnect from fundamentals stocks do nothing but go up, until they don't and everyone bails. Until then ride the wave to $1000 and beyond
Fair value is around 20 to 25x earnings. That puts you around 250/share. That is where the stock should end up. Right now it is momentum stock so the top could be here at 530 or it could go to 1000 or 2000. Once you leave any rational pricing based on fundamentals the only thing that matters is that it keeps going up. It is only once that stops and breaks down that the momentum guys all get out at the same time. The stock drops hard. Technical chart guys see all the breakdowns and they bail next. more downward movement. Then you often overshoot to the downside. So it could go back to 200 and it would not be terribly undervalued based on fundamentals such as earnings and growth using any DCF model
This is great. Now I can get in under 50. Nothing wrong with that. $2/share in 2015. PE of 25 on a 50% grower. Cheap stock. decades of growth ahead and many businesses to leverage and start using their network
MSFT will be 100/share only after a reverse split. Apple just took down their Windows OS upgrade pricing as well as Office. iWork and Google apps will continue to garner the young demographic in high schools and college. These are the ones who go on to run their own company's and not use yesterday's tech which is microsuck
When it goes to 620 you can book a sizable loss. hopefully they will offset some gains you have somewhere else. good strategy to pay no taxes!
Apple going to 600. Netflix going to 60. In the end Netflix has to either produce content or buy it. Both are very expensive. The more they scale the higher the expenses for that content. This is why they are trying to produce their own. A show they produce has one price whether they have 30 million subs or 300 million. However licensing content for 300 Mil will cost almost 10x what 30 mil subs cost them.
Netflix PE will come down to 20 to 30 range. Figure 2 or 3 bucks in earnings. You get 60 to 90 bucks optimistically
Chipotle says they might be able to do 3000 to 3500 stores. not 30,000. They can double from here the store count in 8 years. If you double earnings you get 20/share putting the stock trading 5 years out (assuming 5% same store sales) at a PE of 25 in 8 years. If the revenue slows to 10% you might see technical traders and momentum guys hopping off. A PE correction putting the PEG in line at 1.0 times growth would be 10 to 15 times EPS of 20 in 5 or 6 years giving you a price of 200 to 300/share
Longs better time their exit accordingly
It is pricey but also the only company in the world besides google with as many users/members. Close your eyes and buy it.