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fabulouspoodle 40 posts  |  Last Activity: 9 hours ago Member since: Apr 7, 1999
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  • Reply to

    BDR prospects

    by fabulouspoodle Feb 2, 2015 10:54 PM
    fabulouspoodle fabulouspoodle 9 hours ago Flag

    pm ih

  • ..., if you ex out the one timers, namely the $1.635 life insurance gain and the $441,000 investment loss; looks like on an after tax basis NSEC would have made .80/share for the December quarter....and that follows a .72/share September quarter, and that follows a .77 June quarter, and a .40 March quarter

    OK, there was a life insurance benefit in one of the other quarters as well. If you take out all the one timers for fy 2014 (the life insurance benefit of $3.256 million, and the $441 investment loss in the fourth quarter), NSEC made an adjusted $2.14 for the year. And the stock trades at $14/share?

    Oh, and by the way, NSEC has $17.05/share in net tangible assets. KInda head scratchin' cheap.

    Now, I understand that the weak March quarter is next, and there was some bad weather...but jeeze, one time weather events shouldn't matter much given the Book Value and Earnings power.


  • Reply to

    Valuation IV

    by huahua777 Feb 26, 2015 1:18 PM
    fabulouspoodle fabulouspoodle Feb 26, 2015 3:34 PM Flag

    UVE had a solid quarter, but they are up mostly because they are bringing their quota share down to zero starting July 1..............they'll have to finance a ton more reinsurance, but that will add a ton to earnings going forward.

    Good news for FNHC two days ago. They renegotiated the State portion of their reinsurance (FHCF) a few days ago for coverage beginning June 30 2015, they were able to get about 11 or 12% more coverage and still get a 2.9% drop in total costs compared to last year (the larger private part won't be done till around June). Of course last years tremendous rise in reinsurance....were FHCF portion went up near the reason for the downard pressure on EPS this last June quarter (and still somewhat going forward). Great news is that it looks like from the FHCF negotiations that they are getting a good deal on reinsurrance this year, plus they may only raise the total by a relatively small the upcoming September quarter should start some real good comps year over year.

  • Reply to

    on this mb

    by kingkongdoe Feb 19, 2015 1:40 PM
    fabulouspoodle fabulouspoodle Feb 20, 2015 11:36 AM Flag

    telecom, you do realize that the December quarter is far and away their strongest quarter, and noone was predicting a money losing quarter.....most estimates here were five to ten cents a share profit.

    MCZ' strategy, as per Darren on the conf call, was to protect profits, and not sell at just to increase revenue. However, he also admitted that MCZ lost market share. I'm not saying he was right or wrong in his strategy, but often companies are willing to take small losses to hold or increase market share...the theory being once you give up that space on the shelves it is very hard to get back.


  • Reply to

    Strong earnings report..

    by fabulouspoodle Feb 17, 2015 5:34 PM
    fabulouspoodle fabulouspoodle Feb 18, 2015 10:09 AM Flag

    ...sold half around$6.60 for a profit, government doesnt seem to like this one.

  • fabulouspoodle by fabulouspoodle Feb 17, 2015 5:34 PM Flag

    ...25/share beats the estimate of .24, plus CPSS has pulled back a bunch from where it was trading a little while back. Seems pretty cheap here trading at an annualized forward p/e of what, just over 6? Still has good growth and earnings are expected to expand in '15.

    Analysts have average price target of $9.75 on this one....lots of room.

  • Reply to

    What's RCKY Fair Value...

    by fabulouspoodle Feb 17, 2015 2:36 PM
    fabulouspoodle fabulouspoodle Feb 17, 2015 3:32 PM Flag

    Hey hopeful, my valuation method (15 times forward p/e) was somewhat could give it a two times tangible book ($27.00 target) or 18 times forward p/e $28.50 valuation if you like.

    Just trying to make the point that for years, and up through now, RCKY has been given a valuation below its peers.....some of that was for good reason, but circumstances have changed. And maybe RCKY is now starting to be revalued at a more appropriate multiple relative to its industry peers because of RCKY metamorphosis.

    ....flip side is all that could be bunko, and RCKY could slide back.....we'll see.


  • fabulouspoodle by fabulouspoodle Feb 17, 2015 2:36 PM Flag

    For us long time RCKY traders (I've been trading since this thing since it dropped to the $2's) RCKY has always been valued on the cheap. Some reasons for lack of a earnings multiple might be because it used to sell alot of goods through vans/trucks direct to factory workers; it sold a significant portion to the US Military via government contracts; Western footwear was considered cultish and not a growth market. Well thats changed...they still sell direct to some factories, but through kiosk's and the web; military contracts have been small and non-steady...although they still sell direct to military personell without govt contracts; and Western has become more of a norm in fashion. We still carry very large inventories and are tethered to the weather and big seasonality.

    Point is, maybe RCKY should be gettin closer to industry valuation averages. Right now, analyst estimate is for 20% growth in 2015, and another 20% in 2016...that is strong growth.. Its just an estimate, could be off, but thats what the analyst is estimating.. So backward earnings of $1.30, forward $1.60, and tangible book of $13.50...those are strong numbers.

    Maybe its time RCKY trades closer to industry averages. I mentioned the 'apparel footwear and accessories category' as per yahoo carries an average p/e of 27.6, and an average price to book of 7.10. Maybe those numbers are too strong, but it still leaves RCKY plenty of room to get fat.'

    Kinda arbitrary, and RCKY has not received these valuations before, but @ 15 times forward earnings, you get a $24 fair value target...seems reasonable to me. Especially given the strong tangible book value. Now RCKY has never gotten that full valuation before, so it may be reasonable to sell some lower, and hold the rest.

    The estimate for the March quarter is at .12/share. With all the snow we've been getting, I think thats easily beatable so no reason for short term eps concerns. Also, RCKY should be announcing its next divvy any day.


  • Reply to

    We may do better than 17 today

    by hopeful200 Feb 13, 2015 11:28 AM
    fabulouspoodle fabulouspoodle Feb 13, 2015 1:49 PM Flag

    westy, you do know that the price you sold at has nothing to with whether someone can be excited about the progress of RCKY? The world doesn't revolve around where you bought and sold this stock.

  • ...In the CC q&a they stated that $3 to $3.5 million in sales were pushouts from q3 that they mentioned would occur back in the Sept quarter earnings conf call. Even if you ex out the earnings from those sales, RCKY would have beaten by a lot. And the second actual earnings, easily beat the second half estimates.

    Also from the CC, they expect another solid year of growth in 2015. Their expectations are for gross margins to remain stable, SG&A to increase moderately, and "earnings to increase much faster than sales".

    Later in the Q&A section, the CEO stated RCKY expects five to seven percent revenue growth in '15. He then stated that even if they get five percent revenue growth, they should be able to leverage that to twenty percent earnings growth. Thus, you gotta expect that a 7% increase in revenue would lead to a 28%+ increase in earnings. Seems to me their are estimating 20% to 30% increase in earnings for 2015.

    Tangible book is around $13.47/share...pretty strong (the negative is RCKY does carry more inventory than most competitors). As per Yahoo's industry browser, the 'apparel footwear and accessories category carries an average p/e of 27.6, and an average price to book of 7.10. (not sure if the link works,but here: ) Now, I'm not saying RCKY should carry those valuations, but it sure make it seem that RCKY has plenty of room to increase its market value and share price. And it really points to what a great value RCKY would be as an acquisition even at far higher prices.

    Now, the caveat is that these these guys have been more wrong more than a few times with their forward estimates. But no matter what, RCKY is cheap right now given the info we have.


  • Reply to

    If 4q15 comes in breakeven or worse...

    by microcaptrader Feb 7, 2015 12:58 PM
    fabulouspoodle fabulouspoodle Feb 8, 2015 5:11 PM Flag

    Uptab, last year in q4, MCZ had a $1.7 million dollar operating loss, and a $1.9 million dollar loss before taxes. The only reason their net loss was close to zero was because of a $1.64 million tax benefit in the quarter. So, my scenario of a $750,000 operating loss would require much improved margins, gross profits, expenses etc on a lower revenue base....maybe $18 - 19 mil.

    In any case, its a relatively small loss, .01/share, nothing earth shattering and it would still be a big improvement over years q1 operating loss.

    And its all about the second half of fy '16. CEO stated that he expects big improvements in sales in next December earnings vs the one they just posted. If MCZ can do that, they have now have the operating leverage to turn increased revenues into large profits......I mean if you ex out the one time effects in q4 (for exchange losses and additional air shipping expense), MCZ would have made .02/share in the December quarter, on only $30.5 in sales.


  • Reply to

    If 4q15 comes in breakeven or worse...

    by microcaptrader Feb 7, 2015 12:58 PM
    fabulouspoodle fabulouspoodle Feb 7, 2015 11:31 PM Flag

    I'm basing the $750,000 or greater loss in q4 by that exact quote. He said they won't return to operating profitability in fy '15. Through nine months they have an operating profit of $652,000. A small operating loss for '15 would be $250,000 ....which means they'd have to have an operating loss in q4 of around, $900,000.......add interest expense and a few more bucks to that for loss before taxes, then add back your tax credit due to the loss.............and you're around a $750,000 net loss.

  • Reply to

    If 4q15 comes in breakeven or worse...

    by microcaptrader Feb 7, 2015 12:58 PM
    fabulouspoodle fabulouspoodle Feb 7, 2015 7:35 PM Flag

    micro, in the conf call, they did guide for a loss of what, at least $750,000 in q4, so it certainly won't be a surprise.

  • Reply to

    Horrible report!

    by microcaptrader Feb 5, 2015 4:06 PM
    fabulouspoodle fabulouspoodle Feb 5, 2015 4:30 PM Flag

    .....the saving grace is the tight cost controls leaves MCZ solidly profitable even at just thirty million in sales. Still, report is junky......I really have no idea where the share price will go over the next few weeks, except to say that in the past the early panic sellers on MCZ misses have lost out on far better exit opportunities, and this time MCZ price is pretty low to begin with. We''ll see soon enuf if thats wishful thinkin'.

  • fabulouspoodle fabulouspoodle Feb 4, 2015 3:44 PM Flag

    miser, there are tons of institutions, funds large investors that can buy at the current price, imo that is and has always been a red herring. I mean there are lots of stocks priced under a buck which move up strongly.

  • fabulouspoodle fabulouspoodle Feb 4, 2015 3:38 PM Flag

    uptab, re "I'm just not convinced that any revenue and/or EPS number in the 35 - 50mil and/or .02 to .10 will make any difference to how MCZ trades."

    and you're basing that on how MCZ traded over the past few months?

  • fabulouspoodle fabulouspoodle Feb 4, 2015 2:41 PM Flag

    uptab, I would buy at least 500,000 additional shares if they were available near today's price if I knew that info.

    I mean imo, the only way it wouldn't go up given that info would be if this were an industry that was dying....for instance there was a company that made non photo chemicals a bunch of years back that posted those kinds of numbers on decreasing revenues for a long time.

    Seems to me lots of investors are expecting disastrous numbers with a poor outlook, based on some competitors in the space that have already reported poor numbers plus a history of unexpectedly poor earnings; couple with the possible negative one time effects of West Coast port problems, and foreign currency.


  • Reply to

    QTR might be just so-so

    by truth8360 Feb 2, 2015 10:19 AM
    fabulouspoodle fabulouspoodle Feb 4, 2015 9:55 AM Flag

    After the great June quarter, the stock price almost doubled after earnings to $1.90, then investors sold it all the way back to one dollar, $1.00. Those sellers certainly didn't know anything since the September quarter turned out super strong, and the stock nearly tripled off those lows just a few weeks later after q3 earnings were announced.

    Anyway, who knows about this quarter,all we know is that 2015 should be super strong, and guidance next quarter for 2015 should be great.

  • Reply to

    BDR prospects

    by fabulouspoodle Feb 2, 2015 10:54 PM
    fabulouspoodle fabulouspoodle Feb 3, 2015 5:25 PM Flag

    Ym OT

    I think you can add KINS here, although I havent yet. The reason for the dip, imo, is the two recent big snowstorms where KINS provides coverage (mostly in the areas around NYC, like Long Island and Westchester). So March earnings will be effected by damage related to those storms. December quarter was pretty clean, except KINS provideds some insurance coverage in the Buffalo area....and there was that huge snowstorm in the late fall I still believe that December's numbers will be very good.

    Anyway, some years you have bad winters....thats the risk. But after the March quarter, KINS should again start pounding out quarter after quarter of super strong earnings.

    I had a buy order in at $7.50 that didnt hit today.


  • fabulouspoodle by fabulouspoodle Feb 2, 2015 10:54 PM Flag

    Looks like their seasonally weak March quarter could be real strong with big orders form DirectTV...and more orders should follow throughout the year. They also said that later in the year, in the June and September quarters, there should be large orders for digital equipment as its the last chance to convert before companies are fined.....they said their are still lots of servicers that need to fully move to digital. And there were a bunch of other opportunities that they expect to come to fruition in 2015.

    And at the end of BDR's commentary on the CC BDR COO Bob Palle said that they expect improving sales and results in the future.

    So whether BDR has a good or great q4, it looks like 2015 should be real strong for this very profitable yet under book value company.

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