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fattymcbutterpants2001 102 posts  |  Last Activity: Sep 16, 2014 7:44 PM Member since: Mar 7, 2001
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  • fattymcbutterpants2001 fattymcbutterpants2001 Aug 15, 2014 11:33 AM Flag

    The pool area behind the stage pool (where they perform) don't look like "pens" to me. I do have a criticism about the night shift at Sea World Parks. There was an incident where some Timothy Treadwell of the Oceans, hid in the park until after closing, then jumped into the whale tanks to have a close encounter with the whales. The whales, who haven't trained with humans in years, let alone an inexperienced human, squished him dead. My first thought was....couldn't Sea World have hired an overnight babysitter/security guard for those whales? Can't they have someone sit-up with them for their comfort and safety? They have plenty of teenagers slinging nachos at their park, they couldn't hire somebody for the graveyard shift in the whale areas....mismanagement AGAIN.

  • Until then, they'll be a lot of construction and noise, not looking forward to the reduced numbers from that. Sea World San Diego is an aging facility. There are several other upgrades needed. The SkyTower could be replaced with something faster and more modern that's for sure.

  • fattymcbutterpants2001 fattymcbutterpants2001 Aug 15, 2014 10:57 AM Flag

    The whale hunt depicted and narrated in Blackfish took place over 40 YEARS AGO. With the exception of 2 whales, Sea World's entire inventory of 50-odd whales have been bred in captivity. At the show I attended they seemed happy and well-cared for. The trainers truly love them, you can see that pretty clearly. Now if only CAL OSHA would allow the trainers back in the water, it's crazy...with modern technology it would be 10X safer than the old days.

  • Reply to

    Serious question for Seaworld haters.

    by andevenabs Aug 14, 2014 12:22 PM
    fattymcbutterpants2001 fattymcbutterpants2001 Aug 14, 2014 9:27 PM Flag

    I agree completely, I tried bringing up the cruelty and death in Horse Racing, but nobody cares, not sure why....
    FROM A PREVIOUS POST
    You want animal cruelty....spend a day at the Del Mar Races.....
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    Article written yesterday in the LA Times....

    Last weekend was the midway point of the Del Mar meeting. There have been 12 documented serious incidents and 10 deaths of horses. Six incidents happened on the turf course, usually the safer race surface at any track.

    It actually began before opening day. On July 13, a horse named Corlett Drive, in training, suffered a fatal heart attack. Then, on opening day, Kokaltash finished third in a turf race and broke down after crossing the line.

    Quickly came fateful Thursday and Friday, July 24 and 25.

    On Thursday, Mont Saint Michel was found dead in his stall. Then, in morning training on the poly track, Dance With Fate, sixth-place finisher in the Kentucky Derby, bolted into an outside fence when a bridle broke. He injured his leg so badly he couldn't be saved.

    The next day, Yes She's Unusual broke down racing on the turf and Longview Drive went down racing on the main poly track.
    It continued. The next day, Lil Swiss Echo broke down on the turf and caused a three-horse spill, followed by another breakdown in the ninth race on the turf by J Kat.

    After that, Del Mar shut down a turf course that, despite all the incidents, had been drawing general acceptance, if not praise.

  • fattymcbutterpants2001 by fattymcbutterpants2001 Aug 14, 2014 8:55 PM Flag

    While I don't agree with you on the level of suffering experienced by the artificially bred Orca community that Sea World has created in their labs, I have to hand you the prize on dishing out good investment advice. You said Stay away from Sea World shares and that was a good call. I have a sinking feeling that a lot of plain folks bought Sea World stock as an addition to their Disney shares, because it's an investment that little Billy or Moly can easily understand. The only thing the kids will understand now, is that Wall Street can dish out some pain, along with the prosperity and smooth sailing of owning perennial Disney Stock. Thanks Sea World for giving the kiddies a lesson in the Downside of investing.

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    Serious question for Seaworld haters.

    by andevenabs Aug 14, 2014 12:22 PM
    fattymcbutterpants2001 fattymcbutterpants2001 Aug 14, 2014 7:37 PM Flag

    The San Diego Zoo and many others have the most pathetic Polar Bear Exhibits. The Polar Bears pace back and forth methodically because they roam hundreds of miles in the wild and it's the only way they can keep their sanity. The warm San Diego weather could not possibly be good for their health, but it doesn't stop the wankers at the San Diego Zoo. The Polar Bears in captivity are all doped up and hurting and nothing is done about it.

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    real estate aloneis worth over a billion

    by srichter77 Aug 14, 2014 4:04 PM
    fattymcbutterpants2001 fattymcbutterpants2001 Aug 14, 2014 4:15 PM Flag

    $16.50 is closer to book....and knowing SeaWorld the way I do, they'll use those asset values to load up on debt and refurbish the parks, which would be like putting chrome on a turd.

  • Trainers standing at the edge of the pool dancing just doesn't get it done. Get in the water with the whales, if you die, the Blackfish people will make you into a Star.

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    Real world people say parks cost too much

    by auagboy Aug 14, 2014 1:07 PM
    fattymcbutterpants2001 fattymcbutterpants2001 Aug 14, 2014 1:32 PM Flag

    Yes, Season Passes every OTHER year is great. You shouldn't do-it every year because the shows have a tendency to stay the same. After all, training animals to do new things must take the patience of some biblical figure named Job. I enjoy the season pass....and a couple of years later I buy one again.

  • fattymcbutterpants2001 by fattymcbutterpants2001 Aug 14, 2014 1:33 AM Flag

    They are facing serious issues competing with Universal Studios and Disney. I mean you're in Florida, you've got a limited amount of time and money, you're not going to pick a park that's part animal act, part straight zoo and part amusement park. They'd rather the order of activities were reversed with the emphasis on amusement and less on the animals....

  • fattymcbutterpants2001 fattymcbutterpants2001 Aug 13, 2014 3:46 PM Flag

    Nanu Nanu Shamu....Love Robin Williams.

  • Reply to

    visited SeaWorld Orlando

    by ericx123 Aug 13, 2014 1:03 PM
    fattymcbutterpants2001 fattymcbutterpants2001 Aug 13, 2014 3:44 PM Flag

    Thanks for bringing that up. Rode a horse at one of these horseback riding places once. As a novice, they gave me a "gentle" horse to ride. "Gentle" was a euphemism for having beaten the stuffing out of the animal and turning it into a zombie horse hauling around touristy humans.

  • fattymcbutterpants2001 by fattymcbutterpants2001 Aug 13, 2014 3:41 PM Flag

    Captain Smith of the SS SeaWorld April 15th 1912

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    Mentaly deranged poster

    by chessen29 Aug 13, 2014 1:25 PM
    fattymcbutterpants2001 fattymcbutterpants2001 Aug 13, 2014 1:34 PM Flag

    And you'll notice they never offer a solution. They have great $100 million ideas of vast outdoor ocean "pens" where someone, somewhere will pay for the care and upkeep of the animals for the rest of their lives. All the while, harboring some ridiculous fantasy of returning the Orcas to the wild. And when you bring up the Keiko disaster, the postings stop. They are the Emperor Penguins that wear no clothes.

  • Article written yesterday in the LA Times....

    Last weekend was the midway point of the Del Mar meeting. There have been 12 documented serious incidents and 10 deaths of horses. Six incidents happened on the turf course, usually the safer race surface at any track.

    It actually began before opening day. On July 13, a horse named Corlett Drive, in training, suffered a fatal heart attack. Then, on opening day, Kokaltash finished third in a turf race and broke down after crossing the line.

    Quickly came fateful Thursday and Friday, July 24 and 25.

    On Thursday, Mont Saint Michel was found dead in his stall. Then, in morning training on the poly track, Dance With Fate, sixth-place finisher in the Kentucky Derby, bolted into an outside fence when a bridle broke. He injured his leg so badly he couldn't be saved.

    The next day, Yes She's Unusual broke down racing on the turf and Longview Drive went down racing on the main poly track.
    It continued. The next day, Lil Swiss Echo broke down on the turf and caused a three-horse spill, followed by another breakdown in the ninth race on the turf by J Kat.

    After that, Del Mar shut down a turf course that, despite all the incidents, had been drawing general acceptance, if not praise.

  • Reply to

    visited SeaWorld Orlando

    by ericx123 Aug 13, 2014 1:03 PM
    fattymcbutterpants2001 fattymcbutterpants2001 Aug 13, 2014 1:16 PM Flag

    Ever go to the track? HBO cancelled their horse racing drama "Luck" because 2 race horses used in the drama died during their first season of filming. Some of the crew also witnessed acts of cruelty against horses that were so egregious, they were considering notifying the Screen Actors Guild. And this was in California, can you imagine what happens down South

  • Reply to

    visited SeaWorld Orlando

    by ericx123 Aug 13, 2014 1:03 PM
    fattymcbutterpants2001 fattymcbutterpants2001 Aug 13, 2014 1:11 PM Flag

    Was at Sea World San Diego 2 weeks ago, it was comfortably full, but way short of normal for where things should have been this time of year. What I noticed was there were serious issues at the concession stands, some unmanned, others understaffed with broken soda dispensers. The Skytower and Atlantis rides were broken. The Skytower was reported to be so temperamental that they just have to rework the whole thing. And they should rename the Atlantis ride the Whiplash because that's what some passengers suffer from.

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    Buy... 4% dividend yield

    by auagboy Aug 13, 2014 12:44 PM
    fattymcbutterpants2001 fattymcbutterpants2001 Aug 13, 2014 1:01 PM Flag

    Do you want to see real animal cruelty?, sneak into a zoo after-hours and watch the keepers beat the stuffing out of the elephants....it's something to see.

  • fattymcbutterpants2001 by fattymcbutterpants2001 Aug 13, 2014 11:32 AM Flag

    49 Bred in Captivity....2 whales have their origins traced to the open ocean. The last of whale hunts for capture took place in the early 1970's by Canadians. Annually the native Alaskans are issued permits to kill whales for food. We're getting to a tipping point...if you've ever worked at a race track, you know how the horses there are treated. Nobody is proposing they be set-free in the American Midwest to starve and die. They have been bred for generations for express purpose of racing. And so it will be with Sea World, every Whale bred in captivity, every whale a direct product of man. Sea World supports the wild whale pods, condemns whaling, rehabilitates sea creatures for return to the wild. This Blacklisting Blackfishing is McCarthyism......

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    What are they going to do with the whales?

    by sureshot129 Aug 13, 2014 11:00 AM
    fattymcbutterpants2001 fattymcbutterpants2001 Aug 13, 2014 11:07 AM Flag

    Steve Ballmer will buy several to keep as pets. If he'd pay 2 Billion for the Clippers, he'll give Sea World 10 million per whale.

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