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flashrob 436 posts  |  Last Activity: 4 hours ago Member since: Apr 2, 1999
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  • oh just in case you only like "stock mkt type show"

    try: Revenge ON NETFLIX...hedge-fund traders in Hamptons... it one of best series I ever see...

    like horror/supernatural: Haven (Steven King) also on Netflix...great show too...(supposed to be island off coast of Maine (actually Nova Scotia where filmed...)

    so that some "cool TV" ...not average stuff...

  • so we're "in green" AFTERHOURS... yeah it's limitied liquidity... but I like to be accurate, etc.

    anyway... "smoke outside" then "time for Korean Hotties" on viki, or dramafever, or Netflix...watchin' about 4/5 different shows on various...

    also "Firefly" on Netflix...best, coolest Science Fiction...ever... "so funny" great show and writing... MTV's "Daria" is also a "hoot" ...love that show too...

    ........
    oh... "great movie" I just seen on Netflix... "All is Lost" starring Robert Redford... sailboat crossing pacific with "lone adventurer" ...DYNAMITE...that movie...so neat...like YOU EVER WONDER "what's it's like" to SAIL SOLO across OCEAN ...this is "that movie" ...man-oh-man...

    .........
    I just tell you some of this stuff... because it "get real boring" listen to "short" all day long and "back/forth" with long...SO I PUT "SOME other...besides "just focus" on mkt stuff...to give you break...show there "more to life than JUST STOCK MKT, etc...."

    mkt fun... but like casino ...you there too much... it get boring...and you want do somethin' else, etc....

  • so who cares...

    a. I always remember when I would "do the drive" about 1 1/2 hours...from NW New Jersey... (like Flemingon area) to Mays Landing (about 12 miles west of Atlantic City (to either visit or I may have been living at my parents house) ...I worked in Fleminton for a while (livin' at the Hampton Inn there during the week...my company paid for that plus food, etc.)

    so I just rememer "Friday PM drive to Mays Landing"

    was a "real nice drive" down Rt 206 ...from "hills historic country" to "flatland farms, and mostly pine trees...both areas beautiful but NW NJ got hills and low mountains...SW NJ ...AC AND beaches (Jersey shore is much nicer by AC...as it is less crowded and much less traffic... mostly Philly people rented summer vacation rentals in like Ocean City (that's the NJ one...lots nice big-new-rental houses there... it's "dry town" so real family oriented ...cool boardwalk...Ocean City, NJ...one of neatest, cleanest, upper middle class beach towns with nice boardwalk and amusements...(much nicer than wildwoods, etc.)

    anyway...THE POINT I'M MAKIN'

    SO DOING THAT DRIVE ...I'd be in "center NJ" in like "some big farm country" REAL PRETTY AND low population density between "country towns" etc.

    and you "see some mobile parks occasionally" nice ones because it's "out in middle of nowhere land, etc."

    so, I always used to notice THE OCCASIONAL "fairly NEW CORVETTE" outside a few of those "mobile homes" AND I USED TO THINK... now there's a guy...WHO REALLY INTO HAVIN' A "HOT CAR" ...on maybe his 4-6 hundred a week...

    so, I don't knock "people WHO WANT A HOT CAR" and DO WHAT IT TAKES "TO HAVE IT"...

    ...other people "you see a Nissan Sentra" outside of some McMansion... SO YOU DO WHAT YOU WANT...

    "you got a DESIRABLE CAR" ...and you can "get if much cheaper used" ...well if it's a "known hot car" like a "vette or a Tesla" IT GONNA SELL... and enthusiasts...will work their finances...to be in a position TO BE TOURIN' IN THAT "BABY" come the weekend...

  • correction: 266.28 for 722 shares...

    oh...some short must have heard me... and just sold "one share" at 266.50 ...so Y will be probably "showin' that"

    all comes out in the "wash shorts"...like if it makes you "at least feel good"...etc.

    but "tomorrow if DOW has an UP day...well...you shorts "be cryin' then...

    did pretty good today...what with "most of money chasin' NETFLIX...

    .........
    oh and notice TESLA moves after "previous weak earnings" EVEN THAT DIDN'T KEEP IT DOWN after a few days...

    so good earnings WE FLY...

    AND not so good earnings...WE STILL GO UP after a few days...

    ........
    that's the HISTORY SHORTS...

  • Reply to

    EBAY === 43 Teslas for sale

    by kbodie77777 7 hours ago

    BUT YOUR GONNA PAY "A COUPLE GRAND MORE for that Toyota...then if you "bought it privately"...

    so IT'S SOMEWHAT A "HIT OR MISS" ON USED CARS... and then there's all the "maybes" etc. and DOING THE WHOLE TRANSACTION...

    remember the "original Jag XKE from like 62 or so"... I looked at a few of those...could never get one NEARBY...that was for sale...color I liked... condition I liked etc.

    so I might tend to say "that with Tesla ...if it's used/refurbished (like from 3 year expired lease...might do that...OR IF I WAS "PREPARED TO DO SOME WORK MYSELF" then that might be ok...OR IF "PRIVATE SELLER LET ME HAVE CAR FOR A WEEK OR SO...TO TEST IT...all kinds of potential issues...

    so YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR...you can "get a good deal occasionally" ...best deals I saw on "guzzlers" were where some "kid enthusiast puts thousands" in modifications on the "car I already havfe" soups it too the max... AND I CAN GET IT FOR JUST A "FEW K" MORE THAN "STOCK USED" ...and have a "real blaster" like with near 600HP...SO THAT I LOOK AT ONCE IN A WHILE on the net... mainly because I love everything else about the "stock version" I already have" ...like mine got a governor on it...limits speed to 140...but then I don't plan to "go that fast anyway" so I don't much care about that... and the kind of drivin' I do ...rarely do I get the urge to go that "much" quicker 0-60 and 1/4 mile...WHEN I WAS YOUNGER... it would have been "done deal" on some of these hypo mods you can get...

    anyway those are some of my experiences... I hit a tree headon with the Ducati...oh...that was "bad"...anyway... I been on fast bikes since then... but I just never bought another...just didn't use it enough in NJ... if I had lived in El Paso, or LA...I'm sure I would have been using it a lot...now I just don't have the time anymore for all that "macho car" stuff, etc.

    anyway...whatever...

  • Reply to

    EBAY === 43 Teslas for sale

    by kbodie77777 7 hours ago

    the mazda was just sittin' there... and I had FULL INSURANCE on both cars "collision on both" because they were new, etc...so I thought... too much wasted money...I also had a "new Ducati motorcycle in the garage"...so I used to ride that into work too...SO 3 fairly new vehicles...that I was the only driver of... well friends and family used to look at me...like your just "wasting money" with that, etc.

    anyway... I almost bought a used Porsche, Ferrari, Maserati... at different times...THOSE WERE REALLY PRICEY... but they were "immediately available" and fairly "low mileage new" ...no one would insure me on the Maserati...as it had a "racetrack corvette LT1 engine in it...car was like brand new...and the guy had just put that engine in it...back in the sixties...the engine alone was 10k...BUT NO ONE WOULD INSURE IT...because of that modification...REALLY PEED ME OFF... havin' to let that go...

    the Porsche...wanted it "for a bit less" but "battle with dealer" ...figured he'd cave ...he didn't...

    would have got the Ferrari ...only 3k miles...but dealer had sold it 1hour before I called...

    so those are some of my car adventures... sometimes I look at "used modifieds" like kids sometimes "put a lot of money" ...like my car with modifieds (oil cooler...surpercharger mods can be ramped up to 585HP...which I would like...but I ain't gonna do all that work, etc...but let some KID enthusiast do it... and you can get a real deal online... but you got to be careful, and it's a lot of work... like going to "fly out of state" to get car...and you haven't even "seen it" (like maybe it's alll dinged up...or got water-damage or somesuch...so there are LOTS OF ISSUES in buying a "used car" especially privately...AND THEN IS CASE OF "USED TESLA" ...well your not "getting that from a dealer" on EBAY...most likely ...and even if it's "a dealer sale" HE AIN'T A TESLA DEALER... like when you buy "a used Toyota" from a Toyata Dealer...who has gone over the car with a fine-tooth comb..

  • Reply to

    EBAY === 43 Teslas for sale

    by kbodie77777 7 hours ago

    here's a couple of points about "used Teslas" ...

    a. most of the "more enthusiasts" ARE NEW BUYERS... and they have plenty of bucks...

    b. so the "mkt for any used car" has less buyers... because has "greater requirements"

    1. you have to jump thru some hoops to actually get the car... then there is "why is it being sold" ...maybe their are reasons... maybe it was driven roughly/toughly...BASICALLY ...plus there is "financing"...etc.ALL KINDS OF REASONS that make BUYING "ANY USED CAR" ...(consider buying a used "corvette")

    2. so the MAIN BUYER is "maybe somewhat of an enthusiast" PRICE BEING THE "BIG ISSUE" ...if he can't AFFORD A NEW TESLA, etc.

    3. I have bought "pretty new" used cars ...a few times...got the car for "tens of thousands less" in some instances... this was when I didn't like what the dealer had new... and I needed a "car FAST" (like the next day)...so I go into a dealer and just look at his "low mileage used" and wrote him a check... sometimes I have had "two brand new cars" at the same time...
    ...like I bought one "because it was cool" ...actual example:

    a. I wanted a "loaded Z car" but I didn't want the current year because they were going to "increase the hp" THE NEXT YEAR... I needed a car quickly, though...

    b. so I bought a "mazda wankel sedan" IT WAS FAST, relatively cheap, and I LOVED IT...

    c. when the "loaded ORDERED Z car" finally came in a "few months later"...I ended up KEEPING BOTH...
    ...the mazda WAS PRETTY FAST ...was a 4 pass sedan with a trunk...so very useful for those times...

    d. the Z car...only had 2 seats and no trunk...SO I MOSTLY USED THAT for "going out" and on weekend spins in the country...

    now after a couple years...I decided to sell the MAZDA... and the guy who bought it "was an out of state engr" WHO WAS INTO THE WANKEL engine... he got a "fabulous deal" ...I was in no hurry...as I had the Z ...so it didn't matter to me when the Mazda sold... I had just been using it "less and less" and it was just sittin' ...

  • Reply to

    Tesla to push for gun control

    by axconith 11 hours ago

    ya STILL DON'T GET IT...

    not all stocks GO UP BASED ON THE "CONVENTIONAL MODEL OF RECURRING EARNINGS"...

    as long as you are basically "fundamentally viable" MEANING PEOPLE DON'T EXPECT THAT YOUR BIZ IS GOING TO FADE...

    AND YOU HAVE "FANTASIC GROWTH POTENTIAL"

    ...like a TESLA or another example is AMAZON...

    .........WELL THEN "BIG MONEY" expects for YOU TO FOCUS "almost ALL YOUR EFFORTS "AND RESOURCES" ON.........GROWTH..........GOT THAT SHORTS..........GROWTH....

    LET ME SAY IT AGAIN: "GROWTH"....

    ............
    and when you have as MUCH POTENTIAL as a TESLA...AMAZON...etc. with MASSIVE POTENTIAL FUTURE "GROWTH"...

    then BIG MONEY...DRIVES THE STOCK much farther then would seem credible...IF YOUR COMPANY was only "just another MAYBE ENTRY" in a "crowded competitive field"

    TESLA has "virtually NO COMPETITION...certainly "not in pure ev ...in it's PORSCHE/BMW luxury performance MKT NICHE...

    .........and NONE even on the drawing boards...

    we're TALKING "PERFORMANCE LUXURY" not just another "pure EV" LIKE NISSAN LEAF OR KANDI...or GM'S BOLT...

    ........
    SO THAT'S WHY "TESLA STOCK IS VALUED SO HIGH" ...IT'S "HUGE POTENTIAL"

    TO REPLACE "PORSCHE/BMW...and with the model 3 and x...HIGH-END SUV'S...and anything else GUZZLER plans to introduce...

    .........
    that's the reality SHORTS... and "you keep focusing on LARGELY IRRELEVANT EARNINGS...

    .......
    earnings "matter more" FOR LESSER "POTENTIAL GREAT SWEEPING GROWTH STOCKS..."

    .......
    so "both use and guzzler" keep SWIMMING AGAINST THE CURRENT...

    JUST LIKE THE "OLD HORSEY GIANT VESTED INTERESTS" DID IN THE DAYS of FORD launching the "model T"...

    Henry DID A "BIG NUMBER ON THE "HORSEY BOYS!!!"

  • flashrob flashrob 14 hours ago Flag

    yep SHORTS are "small CHILDREN!"

    always "actin' up" and "makin' NUISANCE of "themselves"...

    have to make 'em "sit on stool IN front of and facing CLASS... with "DUNCE CAP ON..."

    "no, short..." you only "got one head..." so don't be askin' teacher FOR TWO DUNCE CAPS"...

    though the "idea of being DOUBLE-DUNCE... well, you probably "on to somethin' with that!"

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  • Reply to

    Q-Why does Tesla refuse to advertise?

    by sedlakfinancial Jul 30, 2015 1:33 PM
    flashrob flashrob Jul 30, 2015 1:52 PM Flag

    try BECAUSE:

    a. advertising ISN'T A "GUARANTEED SALE"

    b. givin' someone A "THOUSAND DOLLAR INCENTIVE" ... "IF" ...it RESULTS in a "guaranteed sale" IS "GETTING ...BANG FOR YOUR BUCK ...IN EVERY CASE???

    c. see MUSK know "more than advertisers" being doing "same old adverisin' technique" THAT ONLY RESULTS IN "small perccentage of sales"

    MUSK WAY ..."best way....AS USUAL....

    (BUT THIS METHOD ONLY WORK ...IF YOU "GOT BEST PRODUCT ...BY FAR... IN MKT")

    everyone else got to "hype their product" BECAUSE IT ...IN REALITY... GOT "TOO MANY SHORTCOMINGS, ETC."

    that what advertising is... MY PRODUCT THE BEST...YOU SHOULD BUY...YOU LOSE YOU COMPETITOR, etc. MY PRODUCT ALWAYS BEST PRODUCT ...BEST DEAL...this foregoing only "partly true"...

    ONE YEAR FORD BETTER THAN CHEVY...NEXT YEAR CHEVY better than Ford...

    but EITHER "SALESMAN" TELL YOU "HIS CAR ...BEST CAR...EVERY YEAR"

    THEY "BOTH LIE OCCASIONALLY"...

    ...
    but then THEY GOT "VESTED INTEREST" ...like "salesguy" CAN'T KEEP SWITCHIN' JOB from FORD TO CHEVY ...BACK TO FORD...etc. HE NEED "SENIORIKTY/STABILITY"...
    ...SO understandable WHY HE LIE OCCASIONALLY....

    WHAT HARD TO UNDERSTAND: how many PEOPLE ...SO STUPID ...they don't realize THIS WAY THINGS WORK IN "MOST BIZ"...

    TESLA don't have to lie... CAUSE HE "GOT BEST ...EVERY YEAR... BY FAR...

  • flashrob flashrob Jul 29, 2015 12:40 PM Flag

    yeah A SPECIAL "MODEL" ...just for the "Tesla stock SHORTS..."

    ...kind of "symbolic...

  • flashrob flashrob Jul 28, 2015 7:45 AM Flag

    get real ...dumping stock...

    that PIDDLIN' AMOUNT...

    MAYBE HE'S JUST "REMODELING "HIS KITCHEN" ...or a new swimming pool...

    ......
    you dopey shorts... actual TESLA employees OTHER THAN LIKE ELON... well the "amounts of shares" they have with few exceptions...ARE PIDDLING compared to BIG MONEY WALL ST FUNDS ...LIKE A "FIDELITY"...

    these inside employee type shareholders... HAVE ALL KINDS OF ISSUES...

    a. buying a vacation home...
    b. paying FOR A DIVORCE
    c. paying off some other "losing investment"

    ALL KINDS OF STUFF "AND REASONS" FOR "INSIDER SALES" ...got that short!'

    ...........
    so YOU SUDDENLY "GOT A CRYSTAL BALL" AS TO WHY "SOME INSIDER" IS SELLING SOME SHARES...

    GIVE US A "BREAK..."MORON"....

    ...........millions of shares of "most companies" are sold by INSIDERS for "personal reasons...

    ...........
    guess you're getting "desperate SHILL...FOR "LOSING GUZZLER VESTED INTEREST"...

    ..........
    EVEN THE "AMOUNT OF HIS TRADE that you come up with" is DESPERATION...

    .......
    IT'S LIKE WHEN I SELL STOCK... guy could say WOW ...why you sellin' that much...AND I SAY ...just need to use the money for somethin' else... BUT DON'T REALLY REFLECT ON THE "stock or my finances" ...mostly just there and convenience, etc.

  • flashrob flashrob Jul 28, 2015 7:22 AM Flag

    AND "WHERE" YOU GONNA "CHARGE IT ON THE ROAD???"

    a. the "manned hydrogen fuel charge stations" will cost about "one million a piece"...
    ...kind of like "building ELECTRIC gas stations"...

    b. meanwhile TESLA willl have "supercharger kiosks" ALL OVER THE PLACES... "THOUSANDS OF THEM"...
    ...IMAGINE THE "ZONING ALONE" plus all the "manned overhead" ...you don't really think...THE AVERAGE PERSON ...is gonna be qualified to "DO THE HYDROGEN RECHARGE without "a safety-trained" attendant... And "that manpower WILL BE EXPENSIVE... salaries, benefits, insurance liability/costs, etc.

    c. get real ...LIKE THE "SUPERSONIC CONCORDE" ...it was a "neat idea" ...I WAS ABOARD THAT... real cool... but PROHIBITIVELY "COST-INEFFECTIVE" ...so it is IN MOTHBALLS...

    d. just because YOU CAN "DO SOMETHING" doesn't make it "cost-effective and viable"...

    .........
    remember the PONY EXPRESS... lasted a few weeks... than the telegraph came along ...AND PUT THAT "SEEMINGLY GREAT FAST-MAIL-DELIVERY SOLUTION" on the "scrap-heap" of "seemingly good ideas" AT THE TIME ...but eclipsed BY A "BETTER/FASTER/CHEAPER more economical "way to go"...

    this time TOYOTA... coming up with a "Concorde like idea" EVEN AFTER TESLA already got the "whole better...FASTER...more ECONOMICAL IDEA"...

    A LOT OF "BIG MONEY" WAS BEHIND THE "PONY EXPRESS" ...a lot of "big investment" went INTO SETTING UP THE "EXPENSIVE INFRASTRUCTRE"...all PROVEN TO BE WASTED TIME AND MONEY...

    does WELLS FARGO still own that??? THEY WERE INVOLVED IN THAT if I remember right... SEE ANY PONIES being used by POST OFFICE to carry mail, these days???

  • the "usual" cyclical money SHOULD be "pourin' back in to the TESLA "hi-flier" ...etc.

  • yeah...they cost cut in refining, too... (like to keep the PRICE OF GASOLINE from fallin'"

    GASOLINE should be "dirt cheap" ALREADY...FOR MONTHS... IS IT??? IS IT???

    .......
    you "had" YOUR "TOKEN' CUT ...back a ways... WHY DIDN'T THAT "STICK???"

    you "common sense" ...SO WHETHER "THE PRICE OF OIL ...GOES UP "OR" DOWN...

    .........
    YOU "STILL GONNA HAVE "HIGH GASOLINE PRICES" ...FOR NOW ...AND "EVEN MORE SO IN THE FUTURE...

    when THEY SLOW "GASOLINE REFINING..."

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