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flashrob 305 posts  |  Last Activity: Aug 15, 2014 8:38 PM Member since: Apr 2, 1999
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  • flashrob flashrob Aug 15, 2014 8:38 PM Flag

    AFTER HOURS... IS "LIMITED LIQUIDITY TRADING"... IT'S THE "AMATEUR HOURS"...

    90% or so of a stocks VIABLE MKT PRICE... IS DETERMINED "DURING MKT HOURS"... not the "helter-skelter fantasies" of the "after-hours MINORITY TRADERS"...this is barring of course NEWS (which happens on the rare occasion... and then THOSE RARE FEW TIMES... then...maybe... but seldom... does after-hours trades mean something...

    overall YOU'D BE WISE TO "HEAVILY WEIGHT STOCK PRICES "DURING MKT HOURS" ...just common sense...short-spin-HYPESTERS...

  • flashrob flashrob Aug 15, 2014 8:32 PM Flag

    tesla CAN AFFORD to have a "great warranty" because ONLY FEW MINOR THINGS GO WRONG...

    unlike GM who had about 29 thousand RECALLS... I'd be worrying about WARRANTY ISSUES if I was "guzzler"
    ...REALITY IS BITING "GUZZLER" BIG TIME... NOT SO FOR TESLA... "THAT'S REALITY SHORT!!!"

    TESLA just gonna KEEP INCHING ON "UP"...

  • Reply to

    AMZN IS PUTTING WAL-MART OUT OF BUSINESS

    by jack_hoff_often Aug 14, 2014 9:58 AM
    flashrob flashrob Aug 14, 2014 3:29 PM Flag

    I'M "NOT WAITING ON THE DELIVERY" ...I ORDER AND FORGET ABOUT IT...

    and I have a Walmart closer...but it's not a super-center WITH A BAKERY AND FRESH MEATS...

    so I have to "go to the supercenter"

    ........................
    and MOST PEOPLE don't have a BIG WALMART CLOSE BY...

    I got several ...but each of the big ones IS ABOUT A HALF HOUR DRIVE...(burning gasoline... time I could be doing something else...

    rarely is THERE ANYTHING I want "immediately...EXCEPT "KINDLE BOOKS" ...WHICH I CAN "GET IN A FEW SECONDS"....

    plus you "might be AT WORK" when you think of that DOODAD you want... order on AMAZON and you can "get onto something else" ...NOT FIGURE you got to "stop in rush hour traffic to pick something up ...which is also probably "a few miles" from where you live... WHICH MEANS "DRIVING IN MORE RUSH HOUR TRAFFIC"...

    I like "great price AND CONVENIENCE" ...WALMART usually does good on the price...but NOT SO IN CONVENIENCE...PLUS THE PARKING LOT IS USUALLY FULL NEAR THE STORE... AND THE "DUMMY BE DINGIN' YOUR DOORS...ETC."

    NO I DO THINGS "THE BEST WAY GIVIN' THE OVERALL CIRCUMSTANCES...

    AND AMAZON "IS A BIG WINNER"...

    EXCEPT FOR "GROCERIES, VEGETABLES, FRESH MEAT, CIGARETTES...I BUY ALMOST EVERYTHING ELSE ON "AMAZON" ...IT'S SIMPLE, ONE OF CHEAPEST, AND "BIG-TIME CONVENIENT"...

    I GOT "NO VESTED INTERESTS IN STOCK ...LONG OR SHORT...JUST TELLIN' YOU "SAVVY CONSUMER REALITY...."

  • Reply to

    AMZN IS PUTTING WAL-MART OUT OF BUSINESS

    by jack_hoff_often Aug 14, 2014 9:58 AM
    flashrob flashrob Aug 14, 2014 3:05 PM Flag

    the BIG WALMART... by me is great.... EXCEPT I STILL BY ON AMAZON...

    SAVE ON SHIPPING COST BY PICKING UP YOURSELF... GET REALITY...

    a. I have to drive to store... this involves a round-trip... COSTS ME ABOUT $8.00 IN GAS PLUS OVER AN HOUR IN TIME...

    b. I use AMAZON... don't waste $8.00 in gasoline... get great reviews on products... don't HAVE TO SCHEDULE MY TIME ...for "over an hour" from other things... don't have to be "out in weather" and have to leave house...
    ...maybe get in accident...

    c. THERE ARE JUST "TOO MANY GOOD REASONS" to use AMAZON...

    d. yeah, I STILL LOVE WALMART SUPERCENTER... BUT ONLY IF "I'M OUT IN THAT AREA... for multiple reasons...

    that's SOME REALITY... (the gasoline, wear and tear on the car, accident risk...whatever...IS ALREADY "MORE THAN THE SHIPPING...

  • THE "TESLA SHORTS" GOT FOR THE PAST YEAR AND A HALF...

    big money BEHIND solar city... just "LETTIN' STOCK DROP" TO "SUCK IN SHORTS"...

    did you notice "all other high flyers" and majority of other even regular stocks WAS UP TO DAY...

    AND "IN PARTICULAR" (and almost by themselves) BOTH "SOLAR CITY and TESLA" were DOWN...

    just "big money" LETTIN' THEM DROP BACK TO "CHUM FOR SHORTS" ...meanwhile they were buyin "mostly the other hi-flyers" that had taken A BACKSEAT TO "TESLA AND SOLAR CITY" all week long...

    well watch out SOLAR CITY SHORTS... I think YOU GONNA BE GETTIN' THE "TESLA SHORT TREATMENT" in the days, weeks, and months ahead...

    have a nice weekend SOLAR CITY SHORTS...

    by-the-way: IT'S OK TO BE "SHORT" (I DO IT LOTS...JUST NOT IN STOCKS LIKE "TESLA AND SOLAR CITY"...or netflix, google, amazon, facebook, etc....

  • like 189,000 SUVS ...article mentions 2012...

    faulty door switch... repairs may not be 'til October...

    ...all this from quick read of article... on NEWS on "main Yahoo general FINANCE PAGE...

    ..........
    189,000 and fire hazard for GM... so less discuss "some fire issue numbers" between "GUZZLER AND TESLA"....

    any "short-takers" want to discuss this... (and not your one-liner negative cheerleading...)

    .............
    GUZZLER just can't seem TO GET THAT "RECALL MILLSTONE" OFF THEIR NECK...

  • flashrob flashrob Aug 7, 2014 4:12 PM Flag

    and of course you should remember this ... "earnings" for right now ARE IRRELEVANT ON stocks like TESLA and SOLAR CITY...

    so whatever... IT'S ABOUT THE "REV GROWTH AND EXPANSION"

    ...
    be like asking me "am I making great earnings "on the hamburgers" I'm selling at the "new million dollar McDonalds franchise I just opened"...

    in BIZ it's about "CASH FLOW" ...the "bank wouldn't have LOANED ME 800K to build the McDonalds... IF I HAD TO "SELL ENOUGH HAMBURGERS" IN THE FIRST YEAR...TO SHOW "STEADY PROFIT"...

    IT'S ABOUT "STEADY CASHFLOW AND REV GROWTH"

    these "moron shorts" SPINNING THEIR "VESTED INTEREST HYPE" ...what a bunch of "MORONS"...actually they are just "LOSER SHILLS FOR BIG VESTED INTEREST ELEC UNTILITIES AND SPECULATORS...(probably that's what most of the "shorts on TESLA ...and Solar City are...)

    notice TOO BIG UPS... when most other big stocks down... TESLA AND SOLAR CITY...

    BIG MONEY KNOWS "WHO TO BET ON"....

  • flashrob flashrob Aug 5, 2014 5:02 PM Flag

    and the "vested interest motivated earnings CRITICISMS by "big elec utility and friends"

    is designed TO MAKE YOU THINK THAT IS "WHAT COUNTS"...

    IF THAT WAS TRUE ...YOU WOULDN'T HAVE "thousands of profitable McDonalds franchises all over the U.S. and the world...

    and WE WOULD STILL BE "RIDING IN STAGECOACHES" AND WAITING FOR THE "MILKMAN TO DELIVER OUR MILK FROM HIS "HORSEDRAWN WAGON"...

    INSTEAD OF "TRACTOR-TRAILERS" DELIVERING MILLIONS OF CARTONS OF MILK TO SUPERMARKETS AND SMALLER GROCERY STORES ACROSS THE NATION...

    SO IT'S LIKE THAT: BIG ELEC UTILITY IS GONNA TAKE A "BIG CUT" IN PROFITS AND SUPPLY AND "OUR DEPENDENCE ON THEM FOR "ELEC POWER"...

    AND "SOLAR CITY" WILL BE THE LEADER OF THAT HERE IN THIS COUNTRY...GOING INTO THE FUTURE...

    SO "MY ADVICE" ...STICK WITH THIS STOCK FOR THE "LONG TERM" BIG WINS...

    it's LIKE SISTER COMPANY TESLA... WHO GONNA PUT A BIG HURTIN' ON "POLLUTING GAS GUZZLER...AND PUT A BIG DENT IN ANOTHER BIG "VESTED INTEREST"...NAMELY: BIG OIL...

    THAT "HOW IT GONNA BE!"

  • the first few years "when Henry Ford" started to UNSEAT and put a "big hurtin" on the EXISTING "HORSEY SET" PARADIGM...

    the "horsey set" is all those VESTED INTERESTS... who owned stables, blacksmith shops, ranches, stagecoach inns ON DIRT ROADS... saddle and tack mfrs and reselllers...THE WHOLE "BIG VESTED INTERESTS "HORSEY SET"...

    well HENRY FORD... came out with "mass production of the Model T automobile"...they DIDN'T EVEN HAVE MUCH IN THE WAY OF "PAVED ROADS" ...let alone INTERSTATE HIGHWAY NETWORKS, ETC.

    ANYWAY: if you had "done EARNINGS" on FORD in those "first few years" when he was just startin' up... WELL "HE HAD PUT IN HUGE AMOUNTS OF VENTURE CAPITAL for fund his mass production assembly line...ETC. ETC. ETC....and if you "did earnings IN THOSE EARLY FORD YEARS... they WOULD HAVE LOOKED "VERY SHAKY AND UNLIKELY THAT FORD WOULD SUCCEED...ETC.

    so this is "what the vested interests" of today THAT ARE AGAINST SOLAR CITY DO... (THESE ARE THE BIG ELEC UTILITIES and networks of affiliated biz ...like hardware and parts, mfrs...training and eductation...THE WHOLE GIANT NETWORK OF "EXISTING PARADIGM CONNECTED "VESTED INTERESTS" IN OUR EXISTING "ELEC PWR UTILITIES" WITH ALL THEIR VAST INVESTMENT IN THINGS THAT WE CURRENTLY USE FOR MOST OF OUR "POWER GENERATION" etc. ...coal, oil, nuclear...etc.

    anyway, outfits in solar (and Solar City is the biggest and best of those) well THEY ARE "JUST GETTING STARTED"...

    SO LIKE IN MY FORD ANALOGY... IT'S NOT ABOUT EARNINGS "for quite some time" IT'S ABOUT "REV GROWTH AND EXPANSION"...

    and the "little engine THAT COULD" unseating BIG ELEC UTILITY... just like HENRY FORD DID against the "horsey set"...Have you seen any "horsedrawn milkwagons plying the streets of our big cities and towns LATELY...I DON'T THINK SO...

    you know it TAKES about a "million dollars" to open a McDonalds FRANCHISE...you got to sell "lots of hamburgers" TO PAY OFF THAT KIND OF INITIAL INVESTMENT...and "earnings" first few years DON'T LOOK...

  • Reply to

    Short NFLX for one single reason :

    by philandjoelle Aug 4, 2014 11:44 AM
    flashrob flashrob Aug 4, 2014 12:48 PM Flag

    why would I short NFLX...

    I went "all in" with one account AT ABOUT "70" ...back when...

    I called that one like I called Tesla from 90 I started writin' on that board...

    and NOW ...ADD TO THAT "AMZN"...

    shorts just don't get REV GROWTH (earnings is secondary to that...AS LONG AS THEY GOT A PLAN and dynamic mgmt, etc....

  • Reply to

    Time to sell and everyone take their profits

    by stockit2me Aug 1, 2014 12:42 PM
    flashrob flashrob Aug 1, 2014 12:59 PM Flag

    MORE LIKE ..."FIRST DAY OF .........NEW HIGHER UPS! .......

    if TESLA does this ON ANOTHER SIGNIFICANT "DOWN DAY FOR DOW"

    and it's one of the few stocks... THAT'S UP SIGNIFICANTLY...

    ......WELL WERE "STARTING TO SEE GOOD ODDS OF "BLOWIN' PAST 260 LIKE ALPHA ARTICLE THINKS...

    MORE PEOPLE IN "JITTERY DOW AND OTHER STUFF"... WILL BE NOTICING... THAT "TESLA" IS ABOUT THE BEST BIG STOCK "IN THE WORLD" TO ....PARK YOUR MONEY IN... WHEN THINGS GET SHAKY IN THE REST OF THE MKTS AND THE ECONOMY.....

  • flashrob flashrob Jul 31, 2014 4:19 PM Flag

    and "after hours" down MEANS LITTLE...

    LIMITED LIQUIDITY... SHORTS GONNA GET "LOSE THEIR SHIRTS IN A FEW DAYS"...

    .........
    this down just DUE "ARGENTINA DEFAULT ON HEDGE FUND INVESTORS"... UNSETTLED SOME OF BIG BOYS...

    PLUS PHONY HYPE ABOUT INFLATION...

    REAL INFLATION HAS BEEN ABOUT 10% ANNUALLY FOR THE LAST FEW YEARS...

    ........
    WHERE DO YOU BUY GROCERIES... I BUY SAME STUFF... IT'S ABOUT 30% MORE EXPENSIVE THEN IT WAS 3 YEARS AGO...

    SO THE "LYIN' GOV HYPESTERS" TELLIN' ...YOU MAYBE "MODEST PAY RAISES ON A GREATLY LESS NUMBER OF JOBS IS GONNA ...SUDDENLY RAISE INFLATION...

    WHAT A "LYING CROCK" THAT IS ...PUT OUT BY GOV ACCOUNTANTS AND SPUN THRU MEDIA TO "LOTS OF HOOPLES"...

    any "dummy" can JUST CHECK HIS "WALLET" and "the same payck" he been gettin' for the last few years... and HE CAN TELL YOU "INFLATION HAS BEEN WITH US ALL ALONG" ...DESPITE THE "HYPE FROM THE FED"...ETC.

    WELL THIS "HYPE ABOUT ARGENTINA" WILL COOL DOWN... PROBABLY SOMETHING SIMILAR TO "OUT OF COURT SETTLEMENT" WITH THE "7% OR LESS HEDGE FUNDS" THAT HELD OUT FOR "FULL RETURN" FROM ARGENTINA... THAT WILL SETTLE DOWN SOON ENOUGH..

    AND THE "INFLATION SCARE" THAT'S "SOME REAL MAJOR BS HYPE" so that's nothing...

    .........
    MEANING YOU'LL SEE THE "DOW FLY BACK UP"... and of course "TESLA" now proven to be one of the "strongest stocks to WEATHER A 300 POINT DOW DROP...among the "hi-flier" stocks...

    ...............
    so after hours drop... better buy it back "IS MY ADVICE" TO A FEW "NERVOUS LONGS"...

    ....
    ALL BARGAIN PRICES FOR "OTHER LONGS" THIS AFTER-MKT LIMITED LIQUIDITY ...exaggerated price move...etc.

    IT'S YOUR MONEY... Not mine....

  • GOOD GOING TESLA... when the "oversold RUN BACK UP" OCCURS ...

    TESLA going do GREAT....

  • flashrob flashrob Jul 30, 2014 6:35 PM Flag

    OH...ALMOST FORGOT TO MENTION...

    YOU "AINT' GONNA BE ALLOWED TO BE SETTING UP A "RECHARGE HYDROGEN FUEL CELL thing AT YOUR HOUSE...

    YOU KNOW... "YOUR NEIGHBORS" WOULD BE GETTING REAL NERVOUS LIKE...

    PLUS IT WOULD "COST WAY MORE THAN A TESLA" IF YOU COULD DO THAT ...LIKE YOU LIVE OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE "MOJAVE DESERT" OR LIKE THAT, ETC.

    ANYWAY... GOT OTHER STUFF TO DO...HAD ENOUGH OF YOU "SHORTS" FOR TODAY...

  • flashrob flashrob Jul 30, 2014 6:32 PM Flag

    same OLD BALONEY ...about "hydrogen fuel cell"

    a. they cost a fortune compared to TESLA charge stations

    b,. they NEED TO BE MANNED... and it's a big operation... LIKE A CONVENTIONAL GASOLINE STATION...

    c. on top of that NOT LIKELY "ONE WILL BE "DOWN THE STREET FROM YOU"

    d. then there is the P;OTENTIAL "KABOOM" factor IN A COLLISION... even worse than "gasoline"

    plus YOU'RE TIRED, YOUR BEAT... AND NOW YOU "GOT TO WAIT IN LINE" DURING "RUSH HOUR TRAFFIC" ...either before or after work... that suks...

    SO GET WITH REALITY... "THIS IS JUST ANOTHER ...DO ANYTHING TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE WE CAN COMPETE "WITH THE SUPERIOR TESLA SYSTEM...

    use common sense... JUST MORE "GUZZLER PATHETIC HYPE" ...LIKE IN "WELL MAYBE WE COULD DO THIS...OR MAYBE WE COULD DO THAT...

    MAYBE "GUZZLER" YOU "SHOULD JUST ACCEPT" THAT "YOUR DECADES IN THE SUN"...ARE OVER ...GOING FORWARD INTO THE FUTURE...

    COURSE "ONE OF YOU COULD CUT A DEAL WITH TESLA" ...LIKE TOYOTA AND MERCEDES WERE STARTING TO...but probably "got heat" from the "rest of big guzzler mfrs"...

    in the end...probably one or more of your "guzzler buddies PROBABLY GONNA #$%$ FIRST... and you'll find out they been "secretly meeting with Elon, etc.,"

    whatever... it's basically OVER for you "GUZZLER!"

  • Reply to

    At what price will Ackman cover.

    by dlw2244 Jul 30, 2014 12:42 PM
    flashrob flashrob Jul 30, 2014 12:58 PM Flag

    ACKMAN ...probably covering FAST AS "HE-CAHN"...

    LEAVING YOU "DUMB AMATEUR SHORT... "HOLDING THE BAG" ....THAT'S HOW IT WORKS "WITH THESE BIG-MONEY INSIDERS...

  • that a sign of "strength" when many other "big stocks" are solidly in red...

    anyway... on bounceback ...UP WE GO...

  • Reply to

    TSLA can never be worth this much....ever

    by longshort1978 Jul 30, 2014 10:43 AM
    flashrob flashrob Jul 30, 2014 11:30 AM Flag

    BUT THE "TREND IS...

    a. the "old guzzler bulls" are being put "out to pasture" going forward...

    b. and the "NEW YOUNG BULL" ...is "ramping up"

    c. so it's "no longer" about current or immediate earnings... BUT IT'S ABOUT "FUTURE GREAT AND EVER EXPANDING GROWTH AND "REV GROWTH"...

    d. "all big guzzlers" chasing after the "lower end MASS MKT" are in "for a future of declines"...especially SINCE... they have to "unwind from the declining gas guzzler HUGE INVESTEMENTS THEY HAVE IN "RAPIDLY BECOMING OBSOLETE OPERATIONS AND INFRASTRUCTURE... not even counting "huge pension liabilities," lawsuits... tens of millions of "bottom line HURTING AND IMPACTING "RECALLS"...

    e. TESLA ...may only be producing a "fraction of what worldwide "gas guzzlers" are producting...BUT TESLA "IS MOVING INTO THE FUTURE AND STEADILY GROWING"...

    whereas "GAS GUZZLERS WORLDWIDE ARE IN "WIND-DOWN MODE"...

    even in CHINA... where gas-guzzler still is "shifting more of their operations, etc."

    THEY WILL BE WASTING THEIR "TIME AND RESOURCES" because CHINA is gonna go "pure electric" ...guzzler has a "vested interest" in trying to stick with the "gas-guzzler paradigm ...since they HAVE SUCH BIG INVESTMENTS, KNOWLEDGE AND INFRATRUCTURE..IN "PRODUCING GAS-GUZZLERS..."

    GUZZLER IS "SWIMMING AGAINST AN EVER INCREASINGLY POWERFUL CURRENT FLOW"...

    WHILE "TESLA" (IN IT'S SMALLER BOAT) ...IS MOVING FASTER AND MORE EFFECTIVELY BY "GOING WITH THE FLOW" instead of fighting against and "increasingly powerful" current...

    the FUTURE in CHINA and "worldwide" is to PURE EV... so guzzler is headed for "the same" circumstances THAT THE "HORSEY SET" faced... WHEN HENRY FORD ...ramped up the "Model T" and mass production...THEREBY "PUTTING THE ENTIRE HORSEY-BASED PARADIGM ...out to "old boy PASTURE"... IT'S ABOUT "LIKE THAT" WITH ALL THIS...

    so FORD didn't make "great earnings" IN HIS "EARLY YEARS" ...BUT INEVITABLY... IT WAS "BYE-BYE" to horse-based TRANSPORTATION (milkwagons, stables, blacksmiths...all that gone.

  • flashrob flashrob Jul 30, 2014 8:51 AM Flag

    the "moron shorts" over on the AMAZON board "thought they were gonna drive that stock down too...

    AMZN happens to be "another favorite stock" of mine...

    SO I "PAYED THEM A VISIT" ...WROTE SOME "COGENT POSTS"... and now YOU HAVE A "REAL BUNCH OF DISAPPOINTED AND LOSER "SHORTS" OVER THERE TOO...

    you'd be surprised at what I get up too... "trashed DUMB SHORTS" is one of my favorite pastimes (don't care about the money... got whatever I need, anyway) BUT I DO LIKE HANDED "DUMB SHORTS" THEIR HEAD... kind of like that...

    by-the-way I REGULARLY "SHORT" ...But not in stuff like TESLA, SOLAR CITY, AMAZON, NETFLIX, STARBUCKS, APPLE...

    big "positive game changers" with "huge REV GROWTH FUTURES... I'M in favor of ...

  • Reply to

    The giga factory is not even a mega factory

    by tieisoptional Jul 30, 2014 8:19 AM
    flashrob flashrob Jul 30, 2014 8:43 AM Flag

    one of the "biggest problems in the world" ...is MORONS think "they CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT "GENIUSES LIKE MUSK" ARE DOING...

    the "biggest loudmouths" ARE THE "DUMBEST MORONS"...

    Musk "just keeps ON QUIETLY DOING" ...one of the characteristics OF MOST TRUE GENIUSES...

    ....THE OPPOSITE IS TRUE OF COURSE...

    MORONS LIKE YOU "TESLA SHORTS" ...DO LITTLE IN COMPARISON TO MUSK ...BUT SURE "MOUTH OFF ABOUT TESLA AND MUSK" ...etc.

    .............
    that's why MUSK Is "where he is where he is" ...AND YOU ARE "HEAR as a "for pennies SHILL for some vested interest like "big guzzler" and/or "big oil"...

    and HISTORY proves "over and over again"... THAT THE FEW "GENIUSES TRIUMPH OVER" THE "MASSES OF MORONS"...

    THAT'S WHY WERE "STILL NOT LIVIN' IN CAVES" ...and thinkin' were great because we "stopped after we discovered "FIRE AND THE WHEEL" ....

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