Not sure why you continue to spread your lies. Desperation????? You rookie LOSERS are all the same.
My educated guess is between 70 - 80 million.
Look DOUCHEBAG, you are the one who can't seem to get any numbers right. First you say Ackmans probably not down anything at all. That makes YOU the fughgkkin MORON. Let's just get that part out of the way. Second, I never said he was down 700 million, BUT he was at one point. We are not guessing that he covered 40%, that is what HE SAID. So far you have proven to be a complete and utter IDIOT with no concept of the facts. The 40% he covered put him at a paper loss of approx. 160 million, add in dividend payments and borrow costs and round it off at $200 million. That is just on the 40% he covered. He still has roughly 12 million shares short that are down approx. $5 a share, ANOTHER $60 million add in dividends and borrow costs and that makes his remaining 60% down about $80 million give or take. He has long dated puts which are losing value every day this thing goes on. He currently has just under $300 million in real and paper losses to date. I suppose if that makes him EVEN in your hilljack mind, then so be it....MORON.
This class is dismissed for today.
I posted a link to your comment yesterday. I guess in addition to being a LIAR, you can't read. When one claims to be long and calls a company UNDERVALUED compared to its peers and then when he is short calls the SAME company a criminal enterprise......THAT is the definition of a HYPOCRITE.
YOU can be done with me all you want hudget, I will continue to remind everyone what a #$%$ unethical lying hypocrite you are. You must be a politician....fits the bill.
Speaking of MORON....Ackmans original short was right at $50, he paid about 6million a quarter for the dividend and he also had borrow costs. He covered 40% of that original position in November at a SUBSTANTIAL loss and then bought long dated puts. So he has a PAPER loss on 40%, the remaining short is UNDERWATER and still paying the dividends and borrow costs and the longer this goes on his puts lose time value.
Suck on that MORON. You drive by shorts have very little knowledge of the truth or the history and every post shows your ignorance.
Hudget the LIAR.... From yesterday
hudget • Apr 14, 2014 2:35 PM Flag
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LOL. Flutie, I once thought the only thing you were "good" at was throwing shameless insults and name calling all over the place. But as it turns out you are not even "good" at that. Your constant criticism of my supposed long position last year and short position this year
Let me highlight...." your constant criticism of my SUPPOSED LONG POSITION..... " Sounds like a denial to me but hey, you are just a fughkkin LIAR.
At least NOW you openly admit you were long last year as I CLAIMED all along which then reinforces my claim that you are a HYPOCRITE with NO credibility. You claimed HLF was undervalued compared to its peers when you were long, now you call it a criminal enterprise now that you are not long. Thanks for playing DUMMY.
Time for all these politicians who are taking money for favors to go down. Time to make an EXAMPLE out of them.
THe board LIAR hudget sure likes to run his piehole until exposed for the dummy and LIAR he is. Funny how he then clams up. Truth is a beatch ain't it hudget?
Politicians who are attacking HLF have received donations from Ackman, Ackman writes a letter for Senator Markey to the FTC, stock falls 10% the day it is released, Ackman has access to a press release from California congresswoman Sanchez. Questionable put activity before all these press releases or presentations by Ackman.
As a retail small time investor WHEN is the SEC/FBI/DOJ going to protect MY rights against this clear and obvious stock manipulator. WHERE is my justice?
All across the country, all across the world.....EVERY salesman is trying to sell you something you either don't need or probably can't afford. Class dismissed for the board DUMMY.
Poor hudget has already been painted as a HYPOCRITE and I exposed him for the LIAR he is yesterday so now all he can do is pester other board members with some of the most ignorant questions.
Why don't you tell us how you have never been long the stock like you said yesterday. What a dummy.
Drafted a letter for Senator Markey to send off to the FTC and now we have NY AG that he donated 30k to. I wonder who the FBI is REALLY investigating here? Stay Tuned.
The plot thickens and the SEC investigation into Hackman deepens. Oh my.
NO MONEY is paid for recruiting...PERIOD. How many times do you bozo's have to be told. You folks keep repeating the same LIE over and over again.
NO whackman doesn't believe his short story.......IF he did then why did he cover 40% of his short this past November? Doesn't sound like conviction to me. As a precaution.....He publically stated he was behind JC Penny's and then shareholders found out 7 - 10 days later that he had sold his ENTIRE stake and the stock tanked afterwards.
Moral of the story......NOTHING whackman says can be trusted, heck he Bankrupted an entire fund costing investors a ton. oops
So just so the board ninny knows how this works, lawyers place ads telling people to call them and join a class action suit that hasn't been filed. If they get enough people that they can milk then they file it. I think the term is ambulance chaser....yep, that's it. Go get em tex.