I avoid debate?! Since when?! That's a new one... Isn't it normally you that doesn't respond when I point out how silly it is that you think you know whether the X will have tow capability or not? That you're literally pulling facts out of thin air?
You are literally talking silliness, and about things you are clearly uniformed of. It's not your fault that you're uniformed, it's you're fault that you THINK you know though!
The Model X WILL have towing capability. That's OLD NEWS.
So your entire argument seems to boil down to the Cayenne can have a roof rack and the Model X can't. Even that is fallacious since you don't actually know whether one can be designed or not. A Jeep with a REMOVABLE roof can have a roof rack designed for it, so I'm pretty sure the X will be able to have one designed to work for it too..
that's great news for the hordes of gm trolls and shills on this board... Tesla investors shrugged
"It's pretty obvious that from a pure car/specification view Model X and S are effectively the same car."
Sure, just like a Boxster and Cayenne are the same car... ::rolls eyes::
now excuse me, I have to go tow my yacht to the lake ::rolls eyes::
It's always been that way, because they've always moved deliveries around geographically so some months certain areas boom, and other months other areas...you must be new here....but be carefully about buying into your own propaganda too much, you might start actually believing it.
""Tesla exists because it has hired a cadre of state & federal lobbyists to coerce wealth transfers from the middle class to the upper echelon who can afford the Model S. ""
So ridiculous! Tesla would "exist" without any ZEV credits, although they wouldn't be growing as quickly.
How can you honestly claim the Model S "exists" because of tax credits its earned AFTER its been developed?!
As for "wealth transfers" and "lobbyists", well that's the cat complaining about the furballs, isn't it?
That doesn't change the reality of what has already transpired. Even if the stock crashes below $40 it doesn't change the history.
Tesla _WAS_ a value buy at $30 in 2012 based on a Buffett-Graham style of investing.
On a long enough timeline, we are all dead.
""Not a fool, but a true believer who doesn’t quite want to admit the easy money was made between March 2013 and February 2014. ""
Coming from someone who never saw it coming, and who mocked those that did...
It doesn't matter if they actually are smarter or not.
It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.
Something else to consider, the 2 peak seasons for the auto sector is Feb-May and then Sept-Nov. I don't know if Tesla follows this seasonality because of staggered reservation backlogs, has the VIN data shown any seasonal trends as far as actual orders go?
no need to shout, us dummies can hear you just fine.
Does it confirm sales have "slowed" or is this part of a long term plan to get the volume from 10k units to 15k units? We know that production seemed to have caught up with demand awhile ago, is it possible they are just trying to expand volume now to keep demand increasing with production capabilities? I guess we will find out when they offer guidance next week
"So, the focus needs to be on better generation of electricity. "
Why wouldn't the focus be on both generation AND usage? In my area electricity is green (I consider Nuclear to be green.), are you saying we need to stop producing EV's and wait for your area to catch up?
I *think* the purpose of this forum is to share information not offer advice. Just my interpretation at least. You are obviously upset with him for being a rational investor (whether long or short) and not just a no position bashtard.
ken, please tell me, where do you get your magical doors that don't let rain in when they are OPEN?! uhhh hello?!
just post the truth Charlie, are you absolutely certain the Falcon wings doors won't be a success? You know beyond any reason of doubt! I love it! So assured in his own ability to judge a book by its cover.