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fuzzhead72 8 posts  |  Last Activity: Apr 29, 2015 10:43 AM Member since: Dec 18, 1999
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  • I'm currently reading The Intelligent investor, by Benjamin Graham. On pages 54-55, he outlines a formula to use to evaluate a company to make sure you aren't overpaying for it. I thought it would be interesting to apply this to Lumber Liquidators.

    The first test he uses is to find an average earnings per share for the past 7 years, and not to pay more than 25 times that. A 7 year check of LL earnings per share gives us:
    .82, .97, .93, .93, 1.68, 2.77, 2.31 = average earnings of $1.48 over the period
    25 times $1.48 equals $37

    This means that the first test would tell us not to pay more than $37 for a share of LL.

    However, there is also a second test, which says not to pay more than 20 times the earnings for the prior year period. Earnings for 2014 were $2.31 per share. Using that metric, we should not pay more than about $46 per share for the company. Over the past 12 months, adding the 29c earnings loss just announced, we get earnings per share of $1.53. Multiply that by 20 and you get $30.60 per share.

    The $30.60 per share is the lowest number, so it should be used. According to The Intelligent Investor, we should not pay more than $30.60 per share for LL.

    negatives: cyclical drop in sales, negative perception lingering probably 18 months

    positives: chain store growth continues, profits were fairly level to growing before 60 minutes report,
    study cited in that report is likely quite biased and flawed

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    earnings per share?

    by fuzzhead72 Apr 23, 2015 10:04 AM
    fuzzhead72 fuzzhead72 Apr 27, 2015 10:14 AM Flag

    I understand, but in order to truly evaluate the entire ETF using the earnings formula found in the book "The Intelligent Investor", I would need to know the overall earnings, correct? The only way I can think of to find this for an ETF would be to add up all the outstanding shares of stock in all of the companies. Next, I guess I would add up all the earnings for all of the companies, right? Then I suppose I would divide the total earnings by the total shares of stock to find the total earnings per share. I was just hoping that someone else might have already done this.

  • fuzzhead72 by fuzzhead72 Apr 23, 2015 10:04 AM Flag

    Has anyone caculated the earnings per share for GREK?

  • I am so glad that WLL decided to temporarily shore things up like this for a couple of years, rather than accepting a bad offer to sell the company. Sure, I don't love the stock plunge, but we are pretty much back to where I bought back in January. If oil goes back up over the next couple of years, they can then get a much, much better deal for the company.

    I was really afraid that this would turn into another "Century 21" stock. I invested in that, and then it was taken private. I didn't really lose anything, but the private company ended up making all of the profits that I was hoping to get long term.

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    Disney stock split coming?

    by fuzzhead72 Mar 12, 2015 4:51 PM
    fuzzhead72 fuzzhead72 Mar 12, 2015 5:11 PM Flag

    My guess December 2015.

  • With the Marvel, Star Wars and Frozen money continuing to pour in, I think that it is looking more and more likely that a stock split is in the future. Anyone care to guess the month that it occurs?

  • If Disney stock powers up over the $110 mark, what do you think the chances are of a stock split in the next year or so? I think it has been about 17 years since the last one. Looking at past splits, it seems that they like to put it back down in the ~$35-$45 range.

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    Why so expensive?

    by atruthbomb Feb 12, 2015 1:04 PM
    fuzzhead72 fuzzhead72 Feb 12, 2015 4:53 PM Flag

    Because they bought Marvel, which was a very smart decision for them.