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getthefacts4achange 11 posts  |  Last Activity: Feb 4, 2016 5:38 PM Member since: Dec 6, 2012
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  • Chipolte decided to con people into believing their food was safer by saying they would avoid GM food. I completely false position as there is zero evidence that GM per se is harmful. Not a single person has ever been hospitalized due to eating GM food. Zero. Meanwhile while distracted by this useless attempt to fool people their food was actually harming people. The management's efforts to increase sales actually took their eye off the ball and actually made the products less safe. This is a fact. They probably thought their food would be safer without GM but they didn't use any science or real food safety assessment in that decision.

    This is a classic down side to the anti-GM effort- it distracts people from the real risks. THE biggest threat to our health from food is not GM, not pesticide residues but bacterial and viral contamination in the growth and preparation of the food. Since organic farming, some conventional and even GM farming can use manure to fertilize they increase the risk of harmful bacteria coming into the food. It is a cornerstone or highlight of organic farming to use manure. If pretreated correctly manure doesn't have to cause harm and the majority of time doesn't but occasionally it has been not treated correctly and it has killed people. The other place where the pathogen's can be introduced is in processing and directly from people in processing and in the restaurants. So if Chipolte actually wanted to make their food safer they would have a high level of surveillance for pathogens at their facilities and restaurants and they wouldn't use their customers as guinea pigs. In fact they would spot problems and fix them before anyone had a chance to get sick.

    But their focus as a corporation was to focus on selling their GM free food. spending money on advertising this instead of on real safety and threat reduction.

    This is why the FDA doesn't want to mandate GM labeling - it distracts people

  • getthefacts4achange getthefacts4achange Feb 4, 2016 5:20 PM Flag

    stop this #$%$. You are an idiot

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    STUDY: Monsanto BT Toxin KIlls human Embryos

    by gold4me777 Jan 19, 2016 6:36 PM
    getthefacts4achange getthefacts4achange Jan 20, 2016 2:52 PM Flag

    there is no evidence of toxicity to humans in the paper. If you look at commentary in natural society to get the facts don't bother. They don't care about facts. These web sites just quote each other. There are people who make millions out of supplements and organics who are sponsoring these studies and campaigns (look up Mercola) who have a political and wealth generating agenda. Mercola has been cited by the FDA for bad advertising and now hates them and CDC. He sells tanning beds - and very little of what he sells have ever been assayed for levels of the constituents and never tested in any way. he has provided more than $1M to GMO-labeling campaigns along with organic millionaires to try and defend their right to charge double or more for food with no proven health benefit. They can't label it as healthier since they would be sued by the FDA. And organic food has killed people while in 20 years no one has even been hospitalized due to eating GM food...why that discrepancy - are they burying all the dead in secret?

    And BTW yes we did land on the moon and the world is older than 4,000 yrs old and CO2 does increase global temps. and evolution has been occurring.

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    STUDY: Monsanto BT Toxin KIlls human Embryos

    by gold4me777 Jan 19, 2016 6:36 PM
    getthefacts4achange getthefacts4achange Jan 20, 2016 2:44 PM Flag

    BTW Bt in organic farmers can be more of a problem in that its the whole bacteria with all that that bacteria makes with Bt one of 1000 different proteins. Bt bacteria have potential to harm immune compromised people with no immunity. Aflatoxin, from organic corn and very much reduced in Bt corn, has LD50 of 0.5 caffeine 5 and Bt greater than 10,000, Table salt = 3000. higher is safer

    So have some common sense

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    STUDY: Monsanto BT Toxin KIlls human Embryos

    by gold4me777 Jan 19, 2016 6:36 PM
    getthefacts4achange getthefacts4achange Jan 20, 2016 2:39 PM Flag

    There is zero evidence of Bt harmful to any mammals. The measurement of Bt in blood is invalid if you use antibody assays that are designed to pick up Bt in plants. When you test any person or animal for Bt protein using antibodies the negative controls - everything shows up as positive - the assay is not useful and the study was discredited. Virtual no Bt protein is in any foods then it is ingested and digested at maybe 0.1% survives now you are down to non-detectable - then it gets into blood somehow and gets diluted. Lets assume it is there. what matters is dose. and toxicity to cells. LD50 for Bt to mammal - unknown since it is at least 10,000 mg/Kg - look it up. Caffeine about 1000 times more toxic. Some 0.0000000001 mg /kg is not toxic to people. No evidence of harm to babies or any one in 20 years.

    meanwhile organic food is sickening and killing people and supplements even worse and no regulation and no one in the activist crazy people cares ------- oh that is why - they are crazy.

  • getthefacts4achange by getthefacts4achange Jan 8, 2016 12:13 PM Flag

    Can anyone here gives us an example of anyone hospitalized or killed from eating food from GM crops. I don't see any evidence in 20years and then I see evidence of organic food killing people and even more making them sick. Am I missing something? All you anti-Monsanto anti-GM crops please show your evidence. Not scare stories, not discredited WHO or Seralini research that has even been discredited by the French !

    An I will straight here. There was an example of a fermented product produced by a Japanese company that included GM bacteria that harmed some people because they failed to do any safety assessment. Also a long time abo Ciba Geigy released a GM corn that was approved for animal feed and not human food and some people who hadn't even eaten it claimed some harm but those cases were thrown out. The Bt GM trait had a small chance of increased allergenicity but wasn't an allergen. BTW way more people die from natural allergens and none have died from GM allergens because Gm proteins that could be allergens are not approved ! Organic allergens are legal and do kill just like conventional crop allergens

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    E. I. du Pont de NO MORES and Company

    by funfundvierzig Dec 29, 2015 2:38 PM
    getthefacts4achange getthefacts4achange Dec 30, 2015 1:41 PM Flag

    what the heck are you going to do funfun? I am worried about you for the new year. With Dupont gone and even gone is there anything else to do? What is the next target? The new Syngenta if it is taken over by the Chinese government !

  • getthefacts4achange getthefacts4achange Dec 20, 2015 1:59 AM Flag

    They either don't either bother or if they come back it would be with $47B.

    Seems like based on SYT chairman's statements they aren't even talking with Monsanto. So maybe Monsanto just waits until the Chinese offer is official then make SYT really negligent and stupid by upping their first offer another $2B so once again SYT screws their owners . Then Monsanto and BASF merge their ag !

  • getthefacts4achange getthefacts4achange Dec 19, 2015 11:16 AM Flag

    In a free market Monsanto would have sued all the people spreading lies about GM food so that the public wouldn't be deceived by the false advertising. The organic industrialist millionaires who have been funding the activities (including Mercola who sells supplements and tanning beds and who has been cited by false advertising by the FDA) would also have been sued. With not one person ever hospitalized due to GM crops in 20 years but people killed by eating organic food it is the organic food that should require labeling with a skull and crosses. I kid you not. Show us one example of someone harmed -hospitalized or died due to eating GM plant food! Then Google and research all the food recalls and real deaths from people poisoned by bacteria in organic food. If you can't see this then you are a organic food denier worse than the climate change denier or the evolution deniers. Think about it. You can quote the rat study that is not valid (based on government commentary and many other peers) you can quote the WHO on glyphosate safety - which is a chemical and not GMO and is not valid either (3 other WHO groups say it is fine and a 4 years study by germany said it is fine vs the 4 hour WHO study). It is a sad reflection on this world that we are focused on insignificant things and leave the rest to kill us. Another example of this - gun violence - everyone freaked out about the20 people dying at one killing and not the 30,000 that die in US every year from guns 50% from suicide) We could stop the mass shooting now and still 99% of the people who die from funds will stay die - how stupid is that. Irrational childish thinking to be fooled by the commercial concerns forced on selling organic food at twice the price of conventional/GM. They have to justify their higher prices yet zero evidence of real benefit

  • getthefacts4achange getthefacts4achange Nov 25, 2015 6:40 PM Flag

    go news for MON as their competing product has not had a problem

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    Hitler was mild compared to Monsanto

    by mike20229 Nov 4, 2015 1:09 PM
    getthefacts4achange getthefacts4achange Nov 9, 2015 11:44 AM Flag

    So noone has even been hospitalized due tyo eating gm food in 20 years. But organic food has killed people - how is gm food and monsanto comparable to hitler ...unless you are a moron without a brain. oops -- now i get it.

    if you want to crtoque the other company that was called monsanto that is another animal. if youw ant to blame current day monsanto for old monsanto you might as well blame the french for hitler. not even teh right country and if you had picked a current day german citizen would it be relevant if they weren't even born when hitler was around?

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