Thanks - that's great input. I'm a seasoned investor but I've never seen that before.
I Googled 'em and turns out that they're a mutual fund management company with several funds & some private managed accounts.
They appear to be real pros - long term success's - and I think that that's another very Bullish sign.
Been a lot lately...almost makes you want to call philstrong - but not quite. Thankls again.
Thanks, but what I'm asking is: did we actually sell 1,100.000 +shares & pocket the 7 or 8 million
dollars.? The SEC filing seems to say that we did, but I'm not sure. Do you think that we did?
for 1.100,000 + shares they made with guy in Milwaukee? Was somewhat unsure of the email the company sent on Friday. If so, think it's a good sign. Can anybody confirm that's what it was? Thanks.
Good point & I agree,,,I didn't think it through because (IMO) I'm conviced that she's not there to help sell the company. You know, she;s an anaylists, not an
M&A type & I thiink she'll be telling all her friends about the interesting upside of this "below the radar" little company.
Lots of hungreys want to see it sold but I seriously don't think it's a candidate until
they show earnings for period of time. Think the mentality of any prospective buyer
would be to pay more for a proven thing rather then less for something with strong potential but unproven results. Think FCEL's revenues are more then twice ours
and they still can't make money. Think you could say in all objectivity that the whole industry, while interesting, is suspect & still on trial.
I've got way too many shares but worry that the real money is still sometime away
and will probably diversify some in the mid-teens.
My thinking was that, as a constant criticism of this management team is that they are poor communicators with stock holders & the investing public at large, that this professional (who I presume would be a motiavted stockholder) would be far more effective at communicating HYGS's exceptional story to her gazillion anaylists friends then what they have now, which is virtually nothing.
Don't think it's nonsense...think ikt's common sense.
IMO seems like it would be good for all stockholders.
It'd be constructive if you could elaborate on why you think it's "NOT good news for HYGS investors
who own the the stock over $10/share avg. " Thanks.
was before the open of Jan. 19....the previous trading night, the stock closed @ $6.75.
Look at it today. Obviously the rally in stocks & oil helped but I think she's another symbol of good things to come. There's been lots of rally's where this stock hasn't participated..
excllent input Ranger...I have small positions in both those companies & should have thought it through...Pure has GPMs of 73%, is an international growth company AND pays a dividend...Luv it like a family member.
Sara Elford knows a gazillion people in her industry. She likes this situation or she wouldn't have joined.
She'll be spreading the word to lots of relevant anaylists in both countries...that is, as the "word" develops.
She'll be a good external communicator & be spreading the news about this little company.
The Market & WATT have successfully tested their August lows & are building a base to migrate North.
The rumers are rampant about two buyers accumulating stocvk on the cheap before entering into
negiations for a merger or joint venture because WATT's patents expand their existing moats & the combined
tecnologies expand the horizons of both companies. Looks like an intersting year after all.
You should read their 8-K. It's available on Yahoo's OHRP's finance page.
It says they have are begining their Phase III testing for their wonder medicine called SQUALAMINE, referred to as OHR-102 It is an eye drop that cures wet AMD...currently the only way which it can be cured is by a needle injection unto the eye, which is very tense for the patent & the Retina Specialist, who administers them all day long, all week long, etc.
The dasease is casaued by fluid leaking into the back of the eye & clouding the patent's vision...if unchecked, it causes blindness.
The eye-drop virtually replaces the needle, which may be required a few times a year instead of every six weeks.
The FDA has granted it "Fast Track Designation" which effectively means that it is such a valuable breakthrough
that they are trying to get it into circulation as fast as possible. However, that could take as long as 8 to 10 months, so nothing's going to happen for a little while. However, that's short for serious investors because if
this works (as it has in Phase I & II testing) this stock will sell at 40 or 80 or higher as the demand for it will be insatiable worldwide as the global population is rapidly aging.
My Retina Specialist recently returned from as Association meeting in Las Vegas & said that evferyione was talking about it & excited about it. Looks like it's coming but not for a little bit.
I recently got AMD(wet). When I visted my Retina Specialist last week for an injection in my eyeball, he had recently returned from an Association meeting in Las Vegas. Said everybody was talking about & enthusiastic about Squalamine (OHRP's catalog number OHR-102).
I bot a bunch & want to buy more, but their 10-K says they only have enough money 'till Seprember, which make me pause...suppose if they run out, they can do another secondary. Howeve, if we go thru the over-hyped consolidation, stocks with no earnings usually get crushed.
You always wonder if you should wait but you really can't time the market.
However, the difference between taking drops & getting injections in the eye is 20 worlds of difference for
both the patent & the Doctor. The Doctors - even tho they're good - put their total net worth & career on
the line EVERY TIME they do this which is a lot.
I'm excited about the product & the investment. Suppose I'll have to buy some more.
Emphasis on "THINK" & "COULD BE":
Never have I seen so much volume (as a percentage of the float} be traded immediately before an announced secondary. If it's short selling, why hasn't the price dropped accordingly? Therefor, it must be longs.
But we've NEVER seen individuals buy this many shares, specially in such a soft market.
Don't think the $2,000,000 fork lift order could stimulate such interest...do you?
So doesn;t that disqualify EVERYBODY but an acquirer? If so, they'ed probably take all the secondary too -
and probbaly some overage too.
They might be buying a third of the company with 3 or 4 Board seats with the understanding that they'll buy the rest after they were sure they understood it better...or they could buy it all right away.
If somebody has a better explanation for all this unique volume, I'd love ot hear it.
Acquirer could be GE, Siemans or KOLON Inustries. MY vote would be the latter becausae all this industrie's
technology is tied-up in the West between Noth America & Europe. If KOLON bot it, they would dominate Asia
and probbaly India & Pakastan, Areas where the pollution control market is probbaly the brest.
BruceKettles has predicted (correctly IMO) that this stock should sell in the low to mid twenties by the xecond half of '16. IF it's being acquired, that's probbaly where it would go at, IMO.
I'm not a game player, but the logic here is interesting...who else could be doing all this buying? Only a fund,
but they've never bot any of our stock do far. Anyway...
rockenroller - excellent point - a worldwide culteral obsession - similar to religion -
is going to engulf the mentality of all social, political & business leaders worldwide - in favor of renewable & alternative energy. Not only will its use be expand geometrically, but effeciencies, cost reductions & enhanced performance will be perpetually realized, forever bringing its cost down.
We're at the dawn of a new energy era - have been actually - where use of renewables & alternatives will grow slowly & steadily the rest of our lives. Serious investors have to be looking at megawatt storage capacities, P2G & hydrogen fed fuel cells
It's long term & subject to fluctuations but it's coming as sure as rain. It's tough to be early sometimes but it's really an exciting time.
I googled Kolon Group (the name given in the press release) & ended up with Kolon Industries.
Our partner is called "Kolon Water & Energy" & they are one of many subsidiaries of Kolon Industries.
Kolon Industries is in the chemical business & makes plastics like Dow & Dupont.
Accordingly, they have a refinery that generates excess hydrogen "for free" from their operations.
By buying one of our fuel cells, they convert that hydrogen to electricity "for free" after amortization.
FREE ELETRICITY - carbon free.
Seriously - how often do you hear that?
Kolon Industries is a big, progressive, publically owned company with revenues of about 4,000,000 won
which I think translates to abiut 40,000,000 US dollars (but am unsure of the translation).
But here's the thing: They're global. This partnership could (in theory) go to every refinery in the world
and sell this systerm on an installed basis. Perhaps HYGS could do,it alone but perhaps only chemical/plastics refineries generate "free hydrogen". But either way, it's an interesting situation.
j.wolf, your post is great but appears to omit the giant orders received in the ANNIUNCEMENT dated Nov.16th, headlined: HYYDROGENICS SIGNS BROAD SUPPLY AGREEMENTS WITH CHINESE VEHICLE INTEGRATORS.
It's a long article posted on Yahoo's fincance page last November & says, amongst other positive things, "The deals signed Friday cover more then 2,000 vehicles (BUSES) over the course of the next 3-5 years."
Later in that paragraph. it says, "Based on Chinese proposals, vehicle fuel cell requirements
alone over a 5 year period are forecast to be about $100 million".
It's appearing that the market for fuel cells in busses worldwide (they're now being used in Scotland & Germany) could create the type of proprietary product line long needed here
so that they can schedule production runs to realize better effecnciency & margins. The
fuel cell requirements for the trams in France coincide with that.
Everything is positive about this equation except the sloppy way they've handled this secondary (hope they can get it off) & they're extremely poor stockhoder commnications & public relations.
CEO says income coming in next year from two sources & they continue to sign Joint Venture Associates. The longer I've owned this stock, the better I like it because they execute so well - as they've promised, make positive & definable progress on what was a "development stage company". Sophisticated investors just bot over $20 million of their stock. Tier 1 company just gave them $2 million milestone payment & the other JVAs are sophisticated, worldly professionals spending thier money to devlop their own products using the technology...think you're trying to create a dip so you can buy some more...no way the FCC won't give the Tier 1 & JVA's most of what they ask for or thjey wouldn't have entered into the Agreemants...the pivot point was the UL approval...can't wait for CES.
You're smart - entertaining - a good poster - and a good trader.
But there's a GOOD possibility that you're dead wrong here.
There's a GOOD possibilty that somebody is going to acquire this company & they're aquiring shares right now,
either before or during the start of negtiations. You think shares will continue to run up here - then dip - then
move North again for CES.
But if someone's acquiring the company, I don't think they'll ever dip.
What do you think the price of the stock would be if it were acquired? You'ed lose a fortune selling in here
and planning to buy the dip for CES. I mean a real fortune...you know, the long dollar in this equation.
I'm not necessairly predicting it...but to think it couldn't happen here is an error IMO.
It's a dramatic, world changing situation here running at the curb, worth untold gazillions. even if they son't get everything from FCC...think to bet it couldn't happen here is very aggressive for a few points on a trade.