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  • goldbug49ers goldbug49ers 2 hours 45 minutes ago Flag

    Apparently the definition of “stupid” has been reversed, at least for the “dhb’s...” of the world. The problem is that they are very inept when it comes to engaging in CIA propaganda (the reason they exist at all). And to think that they are on the same level as financial analysts is preposterous.

    As for us, we don’t rely on the comments of those who have no idea what they are writing about, but only state (and rate) what their handlers say they must. Hands down, we prefer those whose responses are quite professional, and their view of the future is as accurate as is humanly possible (thanks to I. M. Vronsky in this case) in a world controlled by a small cabal of private central banks run by criminals in concert with multi-national corporations using fiat (government sanctioned counterfeit) money. That is not to say that Vronsky is 100% correct, which is humanly impossible, but we believe what he has posted represents another “truth bomb” that is as close to reality as can be found.

    Note that over time words can have their meaning changed. For example the word “heretic” in Greek once meant “choice or belief” which is roughly opposite to its current meaning. The book “Nineteen Eighty-Four” by George Orwell went into some detail of a fictional tyrannical regime that set out to change the meaning of words to their direct opposite, matching its ends of total control of all outside their domain in their efforts to create a totalitarian dystopian State (a “dhb...” state, in other words).

  • ...appears to be deliberate by Holmes (fund manager). The reason appears to be so it would be easier to outperform other funds when the precious metals market turns around.

    Take a look at performance over the past year when it has exceeded that of other funds. Also observe performance from the date displayed in the title. That means those who have retained this fund from the topic date (above) have experienced horrendous comparative losses. We don’t want to speak of current performance because it has been dishonestly acquired.

  • goldbug49ers goldbug49ers May 4, 2016 9:34 AM Flag

    Some think the inflation argument is wrong. However, the United States is not Zimbabwe and for some time has been rescued from certain economic doom, the consequence of continued counterfeiting of its mediums of exchange as well as sheer size because of the forced worldwide payment scheme known as petro-dollars, which is now in decline.

    Taking a look backwards in time, it took Rome quite a while to decline. Debasement of its money was a factor, and one of the more important ones. For learned and well reasoned discussions of how debasement of Roman currency led to its demise, visit the Mises organization. This process took many years over the lifetimes of untold millions and is incomparable to our current age when information travels globally at light speed.

    So trying to extrapolate the fantasy of the current survival of the US economic system, despite its continued currency debasement and other financial shenanigans are mere snapshots in time masking much larger problems. The crooks in politics, media and multi-national corporate interests see this myopic view as advantageous to their continued process of expanding control by irrelevant propaganda. They can state, for example, that the stock market, and other confined measures of economic activity, represent continued improvement by ignoring all the negatives or by providing only cooked numbers in support of their thesis of continued economic improvement, which the common person is not experiencing exposed by low labor force participation rates and a return on investment to those in retirement age that is minuscule, and declining, in comparison to earlier times.

    We have, among the many threads on this message board an individual(s) that is/are highly representative of the propagandizing that is taking place that posts under “dhb... (short for Dim Heteronymous Bulb)”

  • goldbug49ers goldbug49ers May 4, 2016 1:32 AM Flag

    For those (other than the critic that accuses us of slanting what was posted), note that Yahoo message boards, for us anyway, only allow 1985 characters, including spaces. Otherwise the whole article would have been posted, or a link, which also is not allowed.

    Perhaps Yahoo has designed their message boards this way to give those who wish to distort the truth with a specious counter argument.. Anyway the title is there and any who visit will find the criticism of us within the titled article unfounded. Note that there is NO quote available from the titled article from this individual(s) that proves us incorrect, only an invented argument betting that the verity will not be checked..

    Included within the article is the following quote (since we have enough characters to defend our position):

    “Today six major US banks are betting 24 TIMES MORE MONEY THAN THEY HAVE (i.e. $237 Trillion in Total Derivatives vs only $10 Trillion in Total Assets). Even more insanely lethal is the Derivative exposure of Deutsche Bank, which has $75 Trillion vis-à-vis Total Assets of a mere $1.6 Trillion. Sadly DB is betting nearly 47 TIMES MORE MONEY THAN THEY HAVE (astoundingly, it’s the biggest Derivatives Exposure in the world). Clearly, it’s insanely suicidal.”

    Those who know what “TBTF” means will have enough intelligence to know that ultimately this will be inflationary, possibly the hyper-inflationary variety. We don’t wish to take that argument any further to encourage yet another ridiculous response that this can be controlled when all others who are believable say otherwise.

    Unfortunately we can’t get rid of this poster as we are being stalked due to facts that disprove all this stalker(s) post in reply. That’s really what has this individual(s) furious. “dhb...” is being outed for the false logic and insulting language that many others have complained about. Much of the content of "dhb..." responses are violations of TOS policy, which of course is never enforced.

  • Title available online.

    “"Megabanks trade risk via derivatives contracts to another firm while keeping the underlying asset on their books. This way they can bypass capital requirements and take on more debt. This, in turn, allows them to make more trades, but it also means that if a sudden downturn surfaces in the markets, the firm which borrowed way beyond their means may quickly go bankrupt. Lehman Brothers experienced this after they’d borrowed 30 times more money (fiat-emphasis added) than they had in reserve. In that case, a relatively small loss of a mere 3% meant that Lehman no longer had reserves (i.e. capital), and they therefore collapsed…i.e. totally wiped out. The leverage that derivatives allow is incomprehensible. They are betting 30 TIMES MORE MONEY THAN THEY HAVE. This is financially insane."

    Of course, we have one poster in particular that is in denial of the realities. Most of us know who that is (beginning initials are “dhb...” who thinks the inflation monster has been conquered by using funny counterfeit fiat Monopoly money.) No problem. Just print it as needed. LOL

    “Financial Armageddon Approaches: US Banks Have 247 Trillion Dollars Of Exposure To Derivatives”. Can anyone here put their mind around how much money that is? It is $824,000 for every man, woman and child that resides in the USA. Maybe we can get “dhb...” to pony up his/her share. At least that would be a debt reduction of 0.000000333%. Every little bit helps, didn’t ya know. As "dhb..." says, we are all "stupid". It's just another "conspiracy theory" (as "dhb...'s" CIA handlers have taught him to recognize).

  • goldbug49ers goldbug49ers May 2, 2016 3:37 PM Flag

    OK, Sandy.

    We accept your definition of how to respond.

    We no longer respond to dhb... types, except indirectly. We do believe this board is inhabited by CIA operatives whose objective is to defend the criminal activity of banksters as their agents based on what we have heard. Return to honest money necessarily means imposition of the penalties in the Coinage Act of 1792. All these statement of it being “superseded” have been addressed, and yet another false counter bringing up Title 31 of the US Code is proffered. US Code MUST conform to the US Constitution, which it obviously does not. Note that specific verbiage was not included in the argument because obviously it is invalid. This is one of the reasons why we will no longer respond to dhb... because all responses to date have been invalid by going back to original law (that was never invalidated-the Coinage Act of 1792).


    Note how carefully any discussion of the passage of the Federal Reserve Act is avoided.

    Henry Ford: “The people are naturally conservative. They are more conservative than the financiers. Those who believe that the people are so easily led that they would permit the printing presses to run off money like milk tickets do not understand them. It is the innate conservation of the people that has kept our money good in spite of the fantastic tricks which financiers play (by dhb... agents: comment added) –and which they cover up with high technical terms. The people are on the side of sound money. They are so unalterably on the side of sound money that it is a serious question how they would regard the system under which they live, if they once knew what the initiate can do with it.”

  • This is published by the Foundation for the Advancement of Monetary Education, an organization that Douglas V. Gnazzo belongs(ed) to. His arguments will destroy all those of others who cling to the notion that the Coinage Act of 1792 has been superseded. This organization also points out that the Federal Reserve Act was passed in violation of the US Constitution, as pointed out in the article whose title forms the subject of this topic.

    Note that many will look at this title, thinking it is in support of fiat money. Read on.

    Pay no attention to those who suggest that loss in value of fiat money is a temporary or transitory phenomenon. Since the passage of the Federal Reserve Act in 1913 fiat money has lost 98% of its value, making claims of temporary loss in value laughable. Apparently for such claims “temporary” means times measured in billions of years. Even Methuselah couldn’t have outlived such losses.

  • goldbug49ers goldbug49ers May 1, 2016 5:02 PM Flag


    You are dealing with a person(s) that likes to parse words (Clintonesque-dhb39399). As previously stated, this person(s) is/are criminal. All who support the current government sponsored counterfeiting are hardened criminals. They CAN’T be reformed, which appears to be what you are attempting. The same goes for the Federal Reserve, past and present. We are, in fact, in a war against them that will be difficult to win. All of us are in uniform, one that is invisible but carries all the attributes of support for Liberty.

    Unfortunately this war will not be won until SCOTUS carries out publicly broadcast punishment (as per the Coinage Act of 1792) that can be rebroadcast forevermore if it raises its ugly head again, thus stopping it dead (no pun intended) in its tracks.

    Those who counter everything with a response that it is a “conspiracy theory” are CIA connected. We have suspected this for some time and the other day a conservative radio host pointed out that this typifies CIA operatives. They are like automatons that lack any intelligence to present original ideas, other than what they have been taught. If you look back over these responses this description fits to a “T”.

    Our fear is too many look at the assassinations of past POSTUS’s, connected to private central bank opposition and don’t have the courage to confront the guilty. But they are willing to enlist in the military or any other public sector service with risks to bodily harm where their chances of being injured or killed are much greater. Thankfully a few do see the need for peaceful confrontation, as the US Constitution provides. All that is required is that there arise a sufficient number of like-minded individuals for change to take place. Putting this burden on POTUSs is abdication of responsibility by the electorate.

    Incidentally, our first realization that the Coinage Act of 1792 was still relevant was presented online by Douglas Gnazzo. He no longer posts. (assassinated?)

  • goldbug49ers goldbug49ers Apr 30, 2016 11:19 PM Flag

    We have among respondents to this thread a criminal that supports the debasement of our coinage. Regarding that individual as otherwise is the height of ignorance.

    Your request for some proof that the Coinage Act of 1792 has never been replaced is stated in a Wikipedia article, as follows:

    “Section 19 of the Act established a penalty of death for debasing the gold or silver coins authorized by the Act, or embezzlement of the metals for those coins, by officers or employees of the mint; THIS SECTION OF THE ACT APPARENTLY REMAINS IN EFFECT and would, in theory, continue to apply in the case of "any of the gold or silver coins which shall be struck or coined at the said mint."

    We believe this is the case, as there is no other evidence. So the criminal that continues to respond on this thread has yet to bring forth otherwise while we have proven that experts on the legal side of the argument state that the Coinage Act of 1792 is still in force, including the penalty clause. There are other examples.

    Remember that criminals will never admit guilt, as long as they think they can get away with lies and deceit. Beyond that there is enforcement against those who would oppose counterfeiting by officialdom in order to prevail as was done on Andrew Jackson, Abraham Lincoln, James Garfield, William McKinley and John F. Kennedy.

    We have engaged in inductive reasoning on the special meeting between Obama and Yellen that we believe shows there has finally arisen the fear of the Act’s penalty. This has to do with the opening of the Shanghai Metals Exchange which will expose for everyone to see the enormity of paper based counterfeiting in the United States and the UK, the most prominently involved.

    The individual replying on this thread is part of the “propaganda machine” attempting to plug the counterfeiting machine holes existing here. The time has come and gone for that to be effective.

    Truth bombs away.

  • Reply to


    by jmdpampa Apr 29, 2016 4:04 PM
    goldbug49ers goldbug49ers Apr 29, 2016 11:51 PM Flag

    If you’re willing to take a little advice, here goes.

    We weren’t doing much better, but based on pure fundamentals we stuck in there. Now we are being rewarded.

    What has been most helpful to us is relying on the writings of well known analysts who in hindsight have been somewhat accurate. Here’s a couple of them: Avi Gilbert, Keith Wiener.

    Others have their fundamentals spot on, but their timing is lousy, like Adam Hamilton and Jim Willie.

    We only began to be able to analyze who had the best predictive record after installing the free Add-on from Firefox (browser) called Wired-Marker. This allows highlighting of text within the online editorials that, in our case, refer to expected future direction of the PM market. We found that selecting those who were more bearish allowed us to get in near bottoms. This application is very stable and problem free compared to other similar ones Firefox provides as Add-ons.

    We are providing this because, as far as we are concerned, those who successfully buy in near the bottom will drive prices upwards even more than would otherwise take place, giving the clueless, the shorts and the fiat crowd conniptions. In taking this approach we’ve admitted to our own shortcomings and have relied on free professional advice culled using Wired-Marker. This has cost us nothing, but we are considering becoming a subscriber sometime down the line to one of these we’ve found will increase the value of our investments; so far, so good.

    Wired marker provides folders of different colors. You can name them whatever you want as they have properties allowing you to do so, and place the appropriate editorials accordingly in those folders for later review. For example, we store the more accurate predictors in one folder, and the ones that are lousy but may have good fundamental reasoning in another. That’s up to the individual’s creativity.

    Try this,, see if it doesn’t work for you, become this boards next nominal billionaire, and let us know.

  • Reply to

    8 years of Obama has crushed our economy

    by perthgold Apr 28, 2016 9:57 AM
    goldbug49ers goldbug49ers Apr 29, 2016 6:19 PM Flag

    Watching the behavior of those at Ttrump rallies, mostly Mexicans waving their Mexican flags, demolishing vehicles, attacking the police and acting viciously will become a much more worrisome thing if Clinton gets into office. What sort of things will they think they are entitled to that no one else is at that point? If anyone thought there was such a thing as “reverse discrimination”, just wait. You ain’t seen nothing yet.

    No wonder these south of the border types requently put in power military dictators. If this keeps up that will be our future here in the USA.

  • Reply to

    What almost NEVER is stated ...

    by goldbug49ers Apr 5, 2016 2:50 PM
    goldbug49ers goldbug49ers Apr 29, 2016 11:21 AM Flag

    Based on your past comments, you must be very satisfied with current market direction. Congratulations for hanging in there.

  • goldbug49ers goldbug49ers Apr 28, 2016 5:45 PM Flag

    We decided to make an additional comment to your statement::

    “Every other act has no consequence for not measuring up, so not only are employees and officials protected from malfeasance, even if guilty, there is no punishment.”

    The Coinage Act of 1792 WAS NEVER REPEALED or REPLACED. When an act is replaced there is a statement of that having been done. If this would become an acceptable legal process the legal system would (as is the case with the Coinage Acts) embody incomprehensible inconsistencies.

    We would appreciate a further statement you might have per your previous view on the Coinage Act of 1792:

    The omission of a disclaimer on the Coinage Act of 1792 means, legally, that the future Acts on the subject are null and void, since the original Act was never lined out or replaced.

    Note that this has a lot to do with recent high level meetings between Obama and Federal Reserve officials. They are culpable per the Coinage Act of 1792, and not subsequent “replacements”, so they are NOT in fact, “protected”.

    Ron Paul Asks "What Did Fed Chairman Yellen Tell Obama?" available on Zero Hedge

    Note that a request of meeting details was denied under the FOIA.

    There are NO legal arguments that can justifiably dispute this, in our opinion, except, of course, a compliant SCOTUS that is fully controlled by the elitists and will do whatever it takes to obtain SCOTUS opinions in support of Coinage Act “replacements”. SCOTUS members in robes that rely on what many consider their august positions are no different than Catholic and other religious leaders in robes that engage in illicit sexual practices with minors while the “authorities” look the other way.

    As far as what “agno” has to say, it is clear the side he/she has chosen with those sarcastic comments that are not legally based.

  • We don’t endorse continued investment in USAGX, but miners, including those in the USAGX portfolio, appear to be headed into bull territory. Funds exist to line the pockets of the fund managers and employees. If wealth preservation is important to you, then you will research and buy precious metals (PM) miners, hard assets or streaming companies, such as FNV. RGLD or SLW. Currently the dividends of the aforementioned streaming funds are increasing. That means those who buy in now will see greater percentage returns into the future, even as share value increases. A possible pullback in the near future may result in increased returns.

    A good strategy is to look at fund portfolios, select the best performing securities therein, and buy them. That cuts out fund overhead, which has been considerable, despite the enormous downturn in the value of this and other similar funds.

    Remember. Managed funds exist for the managers, and not for those who invest in them. OTHERWISE QUIT COMPLAINING ABOUT YOUR LOSSES.

    This may be a bit trite, but markets in the United States, and elsewhere, are now managed. Free markets no longer exist. The comment is trite because many of you would not be here, if it wasn’t true. China has opened its own version of the COMEX based on real assets, not the phony paper ones at the COMEX. That is the fundamental reason for the upturn in PM markets, and will continue into the future as long as Chinese PM markets are based on real assets. It could soon spell the end of the COMEX and those asking for delivery could instead receive paper. This is a GOOD thing, politics aside, which are being replaced by honest money, the basis of liberty, and not the phony “Liberty” that exists on US mediums of exchange.

  • Since the United States has, with each passing year, become more like a banana republic, see what Brazil does to their politicians considered guilty of malfeasance:

    “The Motive Behind The Impeachment Of Brazil's President Dilma Rousseff” Forbes

    Of course it should be a much easier road to impeachment here, given all the transgressions in politics and jail time for some of the big whigs in the financial sector (Barack Obama (where do we start? border security?), Jon Corzine (using segregated investor funds as head of MF Global)?, Nancy Pelosi (forcing a vote on Obama care before details disclosed), Hank Paulson (socializing the losses of big financial firms with public moneys), Timothy Geithner (tax evasion)...). Instead some of the smaller fish like Bernard Madoff took the heat off of the bigger crooks in government and the financial sector. Of course Madoff was a lesser bureaucrat at the SEC.

    For a more in depth look at crime in the financial sector visit the Deep Capture website where counterfeit securities circulate in FTD mode (Failure To Deliver).

    Really all of this got its start when European banking interests got their hooks firmly implanted in this country’s finances through the banking system (currently the Federal Reserve).

    A current article by Jim Willie entitled: “Long Awaited Gold Breakout” is a good read on where the PM market is headed, though we advise against his timing due to his former predictions. Chart painting has become a great past time for the banking cartel. Fundamentals will eventually rule.

  • goldbug49ers goldbug49ers Apr 26, 2016 1:56 AM Flag

    Some additional comments:

    And here’s another by Zero Hedge titled: “Who Is The New Secret Buyer Of U.S. Debt?”

    Within is the final summary:

    “If the public does not remove the globalist edifice by force, the IMF and the BIS will then achieve their dream – the complete dissolution of economic sovereignty, and the acceptance by the masses of global financial governance. The elites don’t want to hide behind the curtain anymore. They want recognition. They want to be worshiped. And, it all begins with the secret buyout of America, the implosion of our debt markets, and the annihilation of our way of life.”

    Basically, there is no struggle to maintain economic stability. INSTABILITY is the objective in order to engineer a takeover and dissolve economic sovereignty of all nations under the aegis of elitist financial interests.

    As far as we are concerned this is the definition of insanity, or as Einstein is quoted to have said, “"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." It also brings up images of Rome burning as Nero fiddles.

    This attempt to control through monetary means has been tried many times throughout history, ALWAYS resulting in failure. Some have placed this more recently under the heading of neo-colonialism.

    So the attempt to place Harriet Tubman as a replacement for Andrew Jackson is yet another example of neo-colonialism in which he USA will again become a colony dependent on external powers when its economy collapses under the planned weight of ever increasing indebtedness spawned by worthless money.

  • goldbug49ers goldbug49ers Apr 25, 2016 7:09 PM Flag

    You failed to read carefully what was written. The operative word is “those”, which implies strength in numbers. That is the basis of ALL change, as it has been since time immemorial as well as in this country.

    It does seem that you hope to be on the “winning” side, and not the one implied by suggesting a moat. The millions who will finally see the path to recovered liberty will not have moats unlike, apparently, the one you’ve constructed.

  • goldbug49ers goldbug49ers Apr 25, 2016 4:57 PM Flag

    You are correct about what subsequently replaced the Coinage Act of 1792. However, we view it as no different than what brought into being the Federal Reserve Act imposed in secrecy. A read of the comments of Woodrow Wilson after its passage reveals he definitely felt he’d been “snookered”.

    First of all, those guilty of malfeasance are betting that there will never be a backlash. History says otherwise, and it is usually violen. They’ve carefully paved the way with gradualism in an age where information travels at light speed.

    “They” are getting away with it...for now, but are worried enough to put in place things like JADE HELM 15. A read of the participants in JADE HELM discloses the “security” measures are not as ironclad as the strategists might like to assume. We are NOT dealing here with foreign enemies from another country that strategists portray as sub-human, but family members (however you wish to define that).

    Consequently the “doom & gloomers” targeting the necessity of preparing for all manner of social dysfunction is not nearly to a level some are portraying it to be, unless it is for those guilty of malfeasance.

    That is definitely not to say the fiat system will survive; far from it since it is the very basis that will bring about widespread dissatisfaction with an understanding that it is the basis of all economic deterioration. Those who realize this will be immensely rewarded. We appear to be at the very cusp of that taking place.

  • goldbug49ers goldbug49ers Apr 25, 2016 1:12 PM Flag

    Here’s some very interesting and detailed history of the early days of the US economy:

    ” CHAPTER FIVE The House of Rothschild [SECRETS OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE By Eustace Mullins]”

    If you place the title in your browser you’ll find it and be fully aware why jerks like Jack Lew are ensconced in the US Treasury Dept. There is a treasure trove of well known names in the area of finance formerly connected to the US slave trace that belie any pronouncements of Lew as to motive when it comes to Tubman. The deceit in pursuit of their fortunes and political power is unbounded. Hilter was novice when it comes to them.

  • goldbug49ers goldbug49ers Apr 24, 2016 8:46 PM Flag

    Part II (Coinage Act of 1792)

    Punishment is defined in the Coinage Act of 1792 as follows:

    Penalty on de- Section 19. And be it further enacted, That

    basing the coins. if any of the gold or silver coins which

    shall be struck or coined at the said mint

    shall be debased or made worse as to the

    proportion of the fine gold or fine silver

    therein contained, or shall be of less weight

    or value than the same out to be pursuant to

    the directions of this act, through the

    default or with the connivance of any of the

    officers or persons who shall be employed at

    the said mint, for the purpose of profit or

    gain, or otherwise with a fraudulent intent,

    and if any of the said officers or persons

    shall embezzle any of the metals which shall

    at any time be committed to their charge for

    the purpose of being coined, or any of the

    coins which shall be struck or coined at the

    said mint, every such officer or person who

    shall commit any or either of the said

    offenses, shall be deemed guilty of felony,

    and shall suffer death.

    Further, Trump has opposed redesign of the $20 bill, but has failed to state the significance of former POTUS Andrew Jackson’s image on the bill. This indicates he is not credible and would not oppose the continuation of the Fed if POTUS.

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