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goldbug49ers 194 posts  |  Last Activity: Nov 26, 2015 4:38 PM Member since: Jul 9, 2010
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  • goldbug49ers goldbug49ers Nov 26, 2015 4:38 PM Flag

    For those who are unaware what “negative interest rates” imply, it means that banks will charge you for the accounts you have with them. Keep in mind that these charges will be applied in a currency that is fraudulent fiat counterfeit monopoly money.

    Historically, when banking was in its infancy goldsmiths would store their clients gold for a fee. That was when money was honest. Then crooks, like the Rothschild’s, issued depository receipts in excess of inventory, which in essence was the first example in Western Europe of paper money and fractional reserve banking. The USA Government has now treaded down that path and is 18 trillion$ in debt, soon to grow to 20 trillion$, with no conceivable way to repay it.

    If you haven’t come to the conclusion that this will end badly, and soon, you are living in a dream world. If you listen to the arguments of those who say elitist bankers, their economists and a compliant new media (including the talk radio circuit and some on this message board) and believe their lies that this is all being dealt with effectively you will ultimately be a victim. The only problem is that no one knows exactly when disaster will strike. There are ways to protect yourself. Precious metals related investments are one of them, although not the most lucrative.

  • ...are toxic to this country and most others.

    This was reported today by an unnamed political commentator. He is unnamed because his political commentary never is in front of necessary change, and followed only by “ditto heads”. It was extremely difficult to vet in an Internet search, leading to the suspicion that the Wall Street crowd is monitoring and censoring Internet news it does not like. This should have shown up immediately with the keywords we used. We had to find it by way of a link provided at “src dash fla DAT us”. Concatenate and use “.” instead of “DAT’. Also “-“ instead of “dash”. With your “Find” dropdown menu search for “Yellen”.

    Keywords used in our search were: +youtube +Janet +Yellen +Jeb +Bush +Trump +negative +interest +rates

    See: “A Furious Trump Goes After Janet Yellen: "She Is Not Raising Rates Because Obama Told Her Not To"

    This was posted by “George Washington” on Zero Hedge.

    There is also a video of Trump’s statements. There are 2 implications of Trump’s attack. One is to force the Fed, through the pressure of public statements by Trump, to raise rates. THIS WILL BENEFIT PRECIOUS METALS and will hurt the Democrat Party PRIOR TO THE ELECTION. Among Trumps cogent statements are the destructiveness of Fed policy on US currency, which all here should know is countered by Fed manipulation of the precious metals markets using “remote control” through its big business allies and the COMEX.

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    Obama: Federal Law is Unamerican

    by okeypoke Nov 18, 2015 2:52 PM
    goldbug49ers goldbug49ers Nov 25, 2015 3:59 PM Flag

    “...His typically deceptive attacks could lead one to erroneously think it is the case.”

    There is an enormous amount of ignorance within the public, spawned to a great degree by a media compliant to the Democrat Party. Obummer knows this and caters to that segment of the population.

  • goldbug49ers goldbug49ers Nov 24, 2015 2:44 AM Flag

    You, of course, are not talking about the big money center banks involved in money laundering for narcotics traffickers are you? Or the US Government's involvement in drug trafficking through Mena, Arkansas? See: "The Crimes of Mena" by Sally Denton and Roger Morris.

  • goldbug49ers goldbug49ers Nov 24, 2015 2:04 AM Flag

    The following by Roxanne Lewis is titled: “Freedom Was Once Upon A Time A Sound Currency”. It’s a simple statement of how sound money forces governments to not only be disciplined in their spending, but also to be responsive to the People:

    “...Did you know? The Cato Institute published yet another report, in a litany of many reports, documenting the decline of freedom in America. The latest report utilizes data through 2013 and reports that once again the United States has dropped from 2nd place in 2000 to a dismal 16th position. They report that the United Kingdom, Canada, United Arab Emirates, New Zealand, Ireland, Jordan, Mauritius (tiny island east of Madagascar) and even Chilean citizens now report to have more freedom than U.S. citizens. Could this possibly explain our dismal growth and real job formation here in the U.S.? ..."

    Freedom is measured in five broad areas: how sound his currency is, the size of the government, the security an individual has in his property rights, what degree of freedom he has to trade and travel internationally, and how much the government regulates his private and business transactions. The authors at Cato report that, “Virtually without exception, our studies have found that countries with institutions and policies more consistent with economic freedom have higher investment rates, more rapid economic growth, higher income levels, and a more rapid reduction in poverty rates.” Not exactly the information that one who supports progressive Socialism would want to acknowledge or accept!

    It is difficult to extract ourselves from losing situations, but good to remember that those who did throughout history did achieve better outcomes for themselves and their progeny. We cannot, as a nation, continue to allow the destruction of the rule of law as laid out in our US Constitution without deterioration in our overall standard of living. This is one reason to be against border fences. They are bi-directional Mr. Trump.

  • Reply to

    Obama: Federal Law is Unamerican

    by okeypoke Nov 18, 2015 2:52 PM
    goldbug49ers goldbug49ers Nov 23, 2015 12:13 PM Flag

    We heard an interesting response from the US Govmt agencies responsible for vetting who gets into the country. In plain simple terms it is impossible to allow 1000’s of refugees into the country and make sure they truly are refugees.

    The manpower does not exist to do so, yet that is what Obummer and many left wing politicians are advocating. This is not only stupid, it is dangerous. Not only is it dangerous, it raises the question of whether it is a deliberate attempt to create terrorist acts on American soil. If Americans in the next election do not roundly put these people out of office we are going to have some really big future problems.

    But what’s new. Politicians for years, regardless of party, have allowed the influx of illegal aliens to take jobs away from Americans, putting them on welfare, and reducing labor costs for employers. The easy solution has always been to place serious fines and jail terms on employers that hire illegal aliens. The system is in place to make sure those that are hired are legally allowed to work in the US. It is called eVerify, but it is VOLUNTARY. Really? We have a law (IRCA 1986) that stipulates the penalties, and a vetting program to keep employers honest, but the vetting is VOLUNTARY.

    How would it be if compliance to all our laws was voluntary?

    As far as your charge of lack of credibility, where is yours when it comes to the practical matter of the number of refugees to be admitted, and a vetting process incapable of handling it? We suspect you are just like a number of those who post on this message board. When driven into a corner where you are unable to reply with an intelligent response you respond by avoiding the main issue, in this case the numbers of refugees involved unable to be vetted with the existing bureaucracy. We are not advocating expanding that bureaucracy, since the government is already too big and unwieldy. The numbers to be vetted need to be drastically reduced and the reasons explained.

  • Reply to

    Obama: Federal Law is Unamerican

    by okeypoke Nov 18, 2015 2:52 PM
    goldbug49ers goldbug49ers Nov 21, 2015 1:41 AM Flag

    The truth is not your strong point, nor is it that of those with multiple screen names that allie (or are yours) for acceptance.

    Sharia Law

    “...The Quran contains at least 109 verses that call Muslims to war with nonbelievers for the sake of Islamic rule. ...”


    What does the
    Religion of Peace
    Teach About...


    We Christians see no room in our beliefs for what The Prince of Peace taught to include violence solely on the basis of non-belief.

    Maybe the person you need to educate is our President, whose sympathies apparently require some disclosure of what the Quran actually says. Unfortunately in today’s mainstream media certain comments requiring a response are never allowed.

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    Search Zero Hedge

    by moses_on_wall_street Nov 18, 2015 12:58 AM
    goldbug49ers goldbug49ers Nov 18, 2015 10:46 PM Flag

    We need to rid ourselves of the Federal Reserve, before there will be any LASTING change. Fractional reserve banking and debt of any sort without producing “robs Peter to pay Paul”.

    Failure to recognize this was the fault of all who came before that did not in sufficient numbers protest the looming crisis caused by their failure to demand honest money in exchange for goods and services. To a large extent this was promoted by those who should have known better and had the ability to educate the public on what a bad idea it was to promote expanding debt levels in order to increase (?) the standard of living. Certainly Rep. Charles Lindbergh tried but all who came together at Jekyll Island in 1910 saw to it that their plan of plunder succeeded.

  • Reply to

    Obama: Federal Law is Unamerican

    by okeypoke Nov 18, 2015 2:52 PM
    goldbug49ers goldbug49ers Nov 18, 2015 9:48 PM Flag

    Apparently you are illiterate and can’t read. This law takes into account that Christians are being persecuted in the Middle East, by the usual suspects, and therefore this can also be taken into account for asylum requests.

    Please do disclose your religious background or state that you are illiterate and will change your opinion based on that. This says nothing about excluding Muslims. In fact it also includes them if they are at odds with those that persecute their brethren because of their varying religious beliefs.

    Either Obama is too stupid to recognize this interpretation of the law or he (and you) is deliberately trying to allow dangerous people into the country, since, if there are no restrictions on Muslims, we risk an event such as has taken place in France or with the Russian airliner. Obama needs to restate what he has said with no room for misinterpretation.

    Obama’s words need to be carefully assessed. If he is deliberately endangering the country, that is definitely grounds for impeachment. Relative silence on the part of Congress is reprehensible.

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    Put the Marxists on ignore.

    by moses_on_wall_street Nov 16, 2015 9:18 AM
    goldbug49ers goldbug49ers Nov 18, 2015 3:01 AM Flag

    The following was an intended reply to “dhb39399”. We will no longer respond directly.

    Who pays you to post on this and other message boards, “dhb39399”/”Mainst9” and similar others. Please excuse us if we missed any of your other screen names, assuming they exist because of similarities. State if you are part of some cabal. Please provide the details. By the way, asking another question in response to a question is a “cop-out”.

    If you deny you are paid for your posts, what motivates you to exclude the obvious to many intelligent people; that being when an exchange takes place in a more honest environment it is equal value for equal value, and not paper currency for things many thousands of times more valuable. That is what took place in the barter system, which is what we may be reduced to if honesty continues to be absent from monetary systems. You seem to like to throw the word “stupid” around a lot, so apparently you are appealing to the stupid out there in support of fiat counterfeit funny monopoly money issued on behalf of governments by central banks.

    Of course any who hold to the view that currencies issued by governments are legitimate is a one world government advocate that seeks control of all peoples, worldwide, through fiat monetary means.

    We should ask one other question; was what happened in France a “false flag” event in furtherance of the one world government? How do you know? We believe that if governments are going to force people to accept dishonest money they are capable of most any reprehensible thing.

    Now you can respond with your “conspiracy theory’ comeback with nothing to back it up.

    Those of you that consider yourselves the farthest thing from the bankster cabal, note that the gain in the major averages filled the chart gaps today on their way down to unknown depths spawned by a blizzard of fiat money that can no longer manipulate markets upwards. Also, current gaps to be filled are on the downside. The noose tightens.

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    Put the Marxists on ignore.

    by moses_on_wall_street Nov 16, 2015 9:18 AM
    goldbug49ers goldbug49ers Nov 18, 2015 2:41 AM Flag

    You are correct about the "winnowing"; the innocent are harmed right along with the guilty. But we look at the great sacrifices made by those who were signatories to the Declaration of Independence, many of whom died, or became paupers having sacrificed, as the Declaration states: "our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor". This time the battle will be worldwide against government fiat monetary thieves; that said without regard to the stated types of governments involved. This issue transcends political persuasion and stated religious convictions because it is so basic.

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    Is Joe SixPack buying gold now?

    by moses_on_wall_street Nov 17, 2015 5:00 PM
    goldbug49ers goldbug49ers Nov 18, 2015 1:21 AM Flag

    We don't think so. They are still listening to the likes of "dhb39399" and "Mainst9". "Propaganda" is a powerful force that was brought into the Federal Government with the writings of Edward Bernays, nephew of Sigmund Freud. (Wouldn't you know it?)

    Any who wish to know how they are being manipulated can obtain this Nawzy Puerca's book called: "Propaganda" on Amazon or on the free book website, Archive Dat Org. If you are interested in a real “conspiracy theory” put into print in 1928 to destroy the US Constitution and hand manipulative power over people to the US Government, this will open your eyes. We recommend the free website rather than give one counterfeit dime to Amazon. It has been said this book has been a handbook for many politicians since its first printing.

    Isn’t it interesting that this should come from a family background said to be Jewish, but more aligned with the thought processes of the Republican RINOs.

  • Reply to

    Put the Marxists on ignore.

    by moses_on_wall_street Nov 16, 2015 9:18 AM
    goldbug49ers goldbug49ers Nov 16, 2015 11:37 PM Flag

    Sandy, we think you have the coolest head on this message board. Your arguments to this dhb39399 detractor are well reasoned only to be countered with absolute balderdash.

    Our heads are not nearly as cool. Those who come here always engaging in unprovoked attacks on others can thank their lucky stars they aren’t seeing stars as displayed in the comic books when bopped over the head. This virtual world stuff is made for their kind. It is interesting such humans exist such as dhb39399, not the type of person ever to engage in a real world confrontation. Rather to provoke others, then step back and watch the sparks fly. We would say that is the sole purpose and a total waste of time when the return is so predictable.

    Not even Jesus Christ would have a cool head with this fraudster that uses the name dhb39399 and other similar posts by Mainst9, to name one, as was the case at the temple when the vendors got lashed outside the temple and had their tables overturned. We won't get into interpretation here. The accounts we've read indicated the "customers" were cheated and overpaid for what was received, kind of like what happens with fiat money, wouldn't you say? (The question is rhetorical)

  • Reply to

    Put the Marxists on ignore.

    by moses_on_wall_street Nov 16, 2015 9:18 AM
    goldbug49ers goldbug49ers Nov 16, 2015 3:45 PM Flag

    Be sure to see that your progeny carries the baton if the timeline gets stretched beyond what anyone expects. These esso-b banksters don't operate on human lifespans, but rather on geologic ones ... they think. One big mistake and they are toast. If the correction is to be permanent our hope is that the penalty prescribed in the Coinage Act of 1792 is carried out legally and VERY PUBLICLY, not only here, but worldwide (probably internationally first), and not on innocent people as is currently the case.

  • Reply to

    USD / Gold "carry trade" underway

    by thermonuke Aug 25, 2015 8:49 PM
    goldbug49ers goldbug49ers Nov 16, 2015 3:19 PM Flag

    We use to listen to a TV program in the 80’s called “Charting the Market”. Hosting it was Gene Morgan. He NEVER recommended entering on the buy side until technical analysis showed it to be good timing to do so.

    Likewise most current technical analysts still refer to the PM sector as being on a “sell signal”, putting aside what appears to be obvious manipulation in that direction. There is no future in being too soon. With this sector having huge upside potential those who are lucky enough to actually buy at dead bottom are only going to gain a small percentage.

    None of the recommendations on the thread to buy now, in our opinion, are as yet good advice. Trying to pick bottoms is folly. You must wait until a perceived bottom results in a credible volume induced up move.

  • Reply to

    Put the Marxists on ignore.

    by moses_on_wall_street Nov 16, 2015 9:18 AM
    goldbug49ers goldbug49ers Nov 16, 2015 10:46 AM Flag

    We believe they are PAID to be here, with fiat money by the issuing authority. Have you noticed the action in the New York PM spot markets this morning... after all the news coming out of France? It crashed yet again. We think that has much in common with the trolls visiting this and other PM sector message boards. Remember that the Soviet Union was taken down primarily by manipulating their currency. See the story on Leo Wanta, who was a “black ops” private contractor in direct contact with POTUS Reagan, now in hiding from the Democrat left. The banksters, at this point, are becoming desperate. They want to create as much fear that PM markets will continue crashing so anything PM sector related gravitates to them. (Stay tuned for the "conspiracy theory" comments.)

    Heaven forbid, but if there was an event such as in France in the United States, we believe you would see the same manipulation, and in the same direction (down). It would take place in the spot PM and PM sector in general in a concerted effort to hide what it portends. That, however, would be a good time to jump in to take advantage of pricing.

  • goldbug49ers goldbug49ers Nov 15, 2015 7:24 PM Flag

    The Coinage Act of 1965 discontinue the issuance of all silver coinage.

    Woodrow Wilson's words were a prophecy of things to come, even though he was an enabler:

    "I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the civilized world no longer a Government by free opinion, no longer a Government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men."

    Note how the usual suspects on this message board will attempt to downplay this quote, or more likely will just ignore it. They are deceivers and will be tearing their hair out if they attempt to refute Wilson's words.

  • goldbug49ers goldbug49ers Nov 14, 2015 9:14 PM Flag

    The comments by “dhb39399” who said: “The following does not advance your position. Rather, it highlights your status as a looney tune.”

    1. “Mentioning the rare occurrences”: our backup 20,000 customers were affected and 1.6 billion$ was lost. Wouldn’t seem so rare if you were 1 of the 20,000, would it? Maybe you’d even be a bit peeved because Corzine got away with it.

    2. “Repeating the already disproven "Article I, Section 10" argument.”: Do we need to copy and past it again for you?

    3. “3. Lying about counterfeiting by Ignoring defining legislation.” Go read the Coinage Act of 1792. This Act was NEVER rescinded. It wasn't rescinded because public consciousness of what it contained would have created a firestorm, had it been tried.

    4. “Withholding evidence due to secrecy.” For those who haven’t been following this, it refers to the secret formation of the Federal Reserve Act on Christmas Eve of 1913 when opposition Legislators were out of town. “Withholding evidence?”

    5. ??? Response of “dhb39399” is not understandable. Too much Johnny Walker perhaps.

    6. “Irrelevancy” Irrelevant only to those of the Communist persuasion, like “dhb39399”

    7. “Conspiracy theory” anyone believing that HFT is a “conspiracy” needs to do their own DD.

    8. “Falsely representing an ex Chairman of the Fed.” anyone thinking this is untrue, go to the YouTube hearing and listen to Bernanke tell Ron Paul, “No” when asked if gold is money

    9. “see 7” Does not apply. Perhaps “dhb39399” was under the influence

    10. “see 7” Does not apply Perhaps “dhb39399” was under the influence

    11. nuf said

    Millions know the answer to the last comment. “dhb39399” is one of the few that apparently does not. Therefore it is unanswerable babble.

  • Reply to

    Is dhb39399 a disinfo agent?

    by moses_on_wall_street Nov 8, 2015 11:49 AM
    goldbug49ers goldbug49ers Nov 14, 2015 8:06 PM Flag

    Please speak to us in the plural so you aren't outnumbered.

  • Reply to

    Is dhb39399 a disinfo agent?

    by moses_on_wall_street Nov 8, 2015 11:49 AM
    goldbug49ers goldbug49ers Nov 14, 2015 6:34 PM Flag

    Nasty? So you expect to be treated with deference while not doing so to others.
    Stupid? And you don't have the time to correct your typos, misspelling and bad grammar?
    Nor do you respond to the issues you reply to except by finding ways to distort what was written.

    We know you hate gold and are a fiat supporter, per your comments, however the "golden rule" applies here as well.

    We think you are a most unhappy person because of what you attach yourself to. Our advice to you, since our moment of truth to you is so bothersome, is for you to put us on IGNORE and be happy.

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