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goldbug49ers 87 posts  |  Last Activity: May 1, 2015 3:36 AM Member since: Jul 9, 2010
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  • ... as the manipulators are sending the price of PMs down in their efforts to keep paper and digital money alive. Pretty soon even silicone for micro-processors will be in short supply, as the need for more computers moves tons of silicone into the environs of the central banks. Beach front property will have to be moved miles inland.

    Of course it was all quite predictable after the fake run-up from all that central bank monopoly counterfeit funny money. It was so suspicious that it would be surprising if most didn’t perceive it as manipulation in grand style.

    We have used Wired-marker to keep track of all the gurus claiming that PMs were now in a new long term uptrend. We’ll post their quotes later, identifying them by name.

    Bottom line: when are the tree-huggers going to become so upset that they demonstrate in front of the US Federal Reserve Banks for destroying our forests?

    Also, they could be accompanied in their demonstrations by those with high end beach property who will lose their sandy beaches.

    And what about all those in the line of electro-magnetic radiation flowing into and out of the Federal Reserve System Banks with concerns about contracting cancer from all that radiation representing in the quadrillion$ of transactions transmitted every second.

  • goldbug49ers goldbug49ers Apr 30, 2015 4:38 PM Flag

    Maybe the best thing for you to do is post what the Coinage Act of 1792 states specifically should be the sanctions for counterfeiting in your own words. Perhaps that will remove your doubts about whether or not censorship is in play when the light of day threatens to dawn on significantly more people.

    Your contention that the referenced law was posted in total, and therefore proves that censorship was not applied, avoids the fact that it was not posted the first time; only a statement regarding that the law should be applied to the bankster class and their elitist handlers. Of course it’s a bit difficult to justify censorship when the law is posted as it appears on a government website. So much for your straw man argument.

    But as is the case for most, it seems, the courage to bring to the fore what is an international basic problem is what is at stake. Maybe, like us, you will experience censorship the first time you post, without producing the law in specific as we did the second time, but your perseverance will reverse your intended post by copying and posting the transcript of the law, which you term as “old law”. The “old law” has NEVER BEEN DISCARDED, therefore the sanctions still apply, but for the lack of will to enforce it. After all, how can you possibly apply sanctions to those who are so well dressed in their pin-stripped suits as they plunder the rest of humanity causing egregious harm and death through wars and starvation?

  • Reply to

    The Gold Yo-Yo strikes again...

    by stoll62 Apr 30, 2015 11:07 AM
    goldbug49ers goldbug49ers Apr 30, 2015 4:12 PM Flag

    Predictably, the Dow Jones Industrials are again headed south. Also, predictably, so is the precious metals (PM) sector. The baby is being thrown out with the bath water, predictably, providing very soon the opportunity to buy into the PM sector at prices that won’t ever see lower valuations again.

    There is information floating around out there that in October the IMF will be including China’s reminbi as an international reserve currency, causing the US dollar to tank, along with many dollar denominated assets.

  • goldbug49ers goldbug49ers Apr 28, 2015 3:08 AM Flag

    When the risk to those who are manipulating gold lower becomes too great, it will then reverse course. Remember that manipulation works in both directions. Also remember that up trends are slow and gradual; down trends fall much more quickly. That’s why there is NO hurry to find an entry point for the PMs up trend. It will become obvious and there will be PLENTY of time for all who are patiently waiting to take advantage of it.

    Beware of those who state that you better get in now, or PM prices will rise so quickly that you will be unable to invest in this sector.

    It does appear that you are the victim of having bought in too soon due to the propaganda of those who have derivatives that make money when the sector is in a downtrend. Yes, they have been able to manipulate in the direction that benefits them, to a point. But, again, the point where the manipulation reverses from a down trend to an up trend will be gradual enough that ALL who are reasonably awake will be able to find their entry point and profit from it. Lack of patience (not the Janet Yellin kind) is a real killer in this sector.

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    Yamana's new acquisition:

    by goldmanpillageandsack Apr 25, 2015 11:43 AM
    goldbug49ers goldbug49ers Apr 27, 2015 5:08 PM Flag

    Casey,

    Your disappointment is because you are looking in the wrong places. See our topic on “AUY vs FNV, SLW & RGLD”. AUY is in last place, and has been for years compared to these. But “ryan_waller” is correct to suggest you should be looking for “greener pastures”.

    Goldmanpillageandsack continually pumps AUY. Royalty/streaming companies, if properly run, will always outdo direct investment in mining companies. We have brought to the fore some of the better ones. The charts tell the story there. When royalty/streaming companies finance and can retain physical possession of a low percentage of mine output they are a better alternative to PM mining companies than relying on central banks. Companies like RGLD can acquire PM mine output but investors will only receive dividends in funny money. Think about that. What’s the hang-up, especially with the enormous plunge in the price of PMs? The incentive is there, but not the motivation. Of course AUY, unlike RGLD, SLW and FNV whose dividend payouts remain much higher, has lowered its dividend payouts to what they were prior to June 2010,

    Most option investors lose. Only those who write options have a better opportunity for profits. A while back goldmanpillageandsack said he was changing his strategy to be an AUY call buyer. He had to have become a loser as a call buyer from his previous stance as a writer of calls. At the beginning of March 2015 the $20 strike price of an AUY LEAP call was $0.50 for expiration in January 2017. Today it is $0.11, having lost 75% of its value in less than 2 months. That’s really great profit potential for goldmanpillageandsack as a call writer; not for call buyers.

    PM miners probably have more downside. You would not think so when looking at today’s uptick, but it’s better to wait for the seasonal losses in this sector over the May-June time period.

    Firefox users try the Add-On, “Wired-marker” to see who’s accurate in their vision of the future.

  • Reply to

    AUY vs FNV, SLW & RGLD

    by goldbug49ers Apr 27, 2015 3:19 AM
    goldbug49ers goldbug49ers Apr 27, 2015 2:47 PM Flag

    For those of you who look at ratings and wonder if there is anything to be gained by thinking, whether up or down, they have value, please note that we would supply a chart comparing RGLD, FNV and SLW, but Yahoo does not provide a means to do so. We think this is by design to maximize ignorance where possible. Therefore you will have to input these royalty streaming companies yourself to compare to AUY. If you do so you will see that AUY is the worst performer in this group.

    So much for ratings, right?

  • goldbug49ers by goldbug49ers Apr 27, 2015 3:19 AM Flag

    The performance of AUY is disappointing, to say the least. We are long term investors, and believe in the PM sector that eventually it must trend upwards. But the performance of ALL miners is ridiculously poor. We believe this is a result of central banks, who fund the operations of PM mining operations.

    But there is an alternative, which is royalty/or streaming. These companies, represented by FNV, RGLD and SLW have performed MUCH better than AUY.

    The central banks must hate these royalty/streamer companies because it removes from their grasp the ability to manipulate in favor of their funny counterfeit fiat monopoly “money”. They would rather see PM miners go broke through their borrowings from them; down goes specie, up goes fiat. Whereas there is a symbiotic relationship between royalty/streamer companies where close attention is paid to hoped for success.

    Of course, like all investments, you wait for things to bottom. We are near but not quite there yet.

  • The large time spread between postings is not present, for example, on Apple Computer (AAPL). Yahoo is part of the elitist network, so it shouldn't be any surprise they've picked these message boards to shut down.

  • goldbug49ers by goldbug49ers Apr 22, 2015 9:30 PM Flag

    This Yahoo message board appears to be having problems.

  • goldbug49ers goldbug49ers Apr 21, 2015 6:47 PM Flag

    We did post a topic titled: “Why Fed officials need to have their necks stretched, a la the US Constitution-“

    It briefly posted.

    Of course Yahoo removed it. We wanted to see just how far Yahoo, the elitists sounding board would allow such suggestions to go. We even removed a link to Forbes so there would be no reason there to censor the post.

    The post concerned the question by Congressman Ron Paul to Bernanke in 2011 as to whether gold was money, to which Bernanke replied “No” with that air of self confidence that he could lie to his hearts content without being held accountable for it. Of course he was still Fed Chairman. Now Alan Greenspan, who no longer is part of the government, has gone back to his old premise that gold is indeed money. These people are such hypocrites, including the current Chairman, Janet Yellen.

    So if you expect positive results in this totally contrived world we now live in devoid of a free market, dream on bro.

    However, if you do notice our total future absence it may be that we got “droned out”. Some of us would rather die on our feet than grovel on our knees to this bunch of criminals. We believe we are among the dying soles of America.

  • goldbug49ers by goldbug49ers Apr 20, 2015 2:30 PM Flag

    Those who have read a recent piece titled “Inflection Point In The Precious Metals” by Rambus must at this point have no doubt on direction. The wiser among you could easily have guessed direction in this highly manipulated and chart painted market. It’s always amusing when those who hint at direction end up pointing the wrong way. In this case it does look like the GDX (Market Vectors Gold Miners ETF) might reach its predicted value of 12.85 within a H&S pattern.

    “IF, the H&S consolidation pattern plays out the price objective for the GDX should be around the 12.85 area.”

    Incidentally, those wishing to separate the good from the bad when it comes to a clearer picture of the future may find the free app for Firefox, “Wired-Marker”, helpful. So far this app appears to function, where many similar highlighters for web pages fail. The more non-elitists who board the train to success the sooner we can KILL the central banks. Now all that remains is to be seen is if “Wired-Marker” will be killed first by Firefox “upgrades” because it’s too effective.

  • goldbug49ers by goldbug49ers Apr 17, 2015 10:41 AM Flag

    Take note! Major averages crashing, PMs in positive territory.

  • Reply to

    Horror story period

    by cougartonia Apr 13, 2015 6:12 PM
    goldbug49ers goldbug49ers Apr 15, 2015 12:05 PM Flag

    You seem to be really down on the average person, but have forgotten how we got here. Are you aware that the news media where most get their information is totally controlled by those behind the big banks, internationally? How do you think we got a communist for POTUS? Do you know that BHO’s REAL father was a card carrying communist, Frank Marshall Davis? Anyone who has seen photos of BHO, Sr. and FMD has to be blind if they don’t see the resemblance of BHO to FMD. Apparently we’ll have to wait some years before someone demands DNA evidence for that to be a proven fact.

    And now are voters going to put HRC in office? Where do you think is ultimately the source of the “money” that members of Congress and the Presidency get for re-election? The elitists have outsourced all the jobs in this country to others, primarily China. Quality is lousy as a result. So is variety because the commie masters in China dictate what will be produced. We are rotting from the top down. NOT from the bottom up.

    As far as the DOW is concerned, have you taken notice of volume? As the DOW continues to gain, the volume continues to drop. Did you take Econ 101, or at least have some knowledge of the concept of supply and demand’s effect on price?

    As far as your comment about “tiny players” is concerned, that is about the only unmanipulated part of the financial markets. It’s to be expected that few will wait for a bottom to arrive before they buy. Most will take the bait before the bottom is in. But that is the opposite of what is occurring now. Economic class divisions arise because it takes a certain level of patience (not Yellen’s version) to wait till “blood is flowing in the streets” to step in and take advantage of opportunities.

    Again it needs to be said that we are rotting as a nation from the TOP down, and NOT the bottom up.

  • goldbug49ers goldbug49ers Apr 15, 2015 2:33 AM Flag

    The argument you’ve offered concerning the possession of gold jewelry by Indian brides tends to be the straw man type.

    If you follow the ebb and flow of PM prices over time one thing becomes clear. Those who rule the world, through the central banks, aren’t really competing with each other. Their focus is control within their sphere of influence, meaning they will retain control over the possession of PMs. Those who think that because Indian brides have a lot of gold jewelry it will protect them from Indian government intrusion into their lives seemingly are not aware of the caste system. As such, the caste system limits upward mobility, regardless of the amount of gold jewelry involved, so governments where this exist do not consider PM possession a threat.

    On the other hand, in the United States PM possession is definitely a threat to the elite because there is no culture of social control, such as a caste system. Rather the system here borders on incest to protect elitist secrecy in their financial dealings. So in effect “currency wars” are nothing more than control mechanisms applied locally so the control of PM pricing disadvantages to the extent possible local populations.

    There is a level of arrogance in this international cooperation that a planet interconnected electronically will achieve the control over the average person forever. Perhaps the Swiss rocked the boat on that concept when they bailed from the Euro. What might come next that not only rocks the boat but manages to sink it putting these efforts of control through monetary manipulation out of business?

  • Reply to

    Horror story period

    by cougartonia Apr 13, 2015 6:12 PM
    goldbug49ers goldbug49ers Apr 15, 2015 12:26 AM Flag

    Posts like this are great. The more of them there are, the more likely it is that those of us who have been waiting patiently can confidently predict that the bottom is in.

  • Reply to

    Who are these people????

    by moses_on_wall_street Apr 14, 2015 10:34 AM
    goldbug49ers goldbug49ers Apr 14, 2015 4:53 PM Flag

    Laws granting the people their rights and statements of principle are great, ...when they are followed. The problem currently is that they are ignored.

    What you have cited are opinions of George Washington. Unfortunately Washington allowed himself to be deceived by Alexander Hamilton. And unfortunately Aaron Burr’s removal of Hamilton came too late. Still note that Hamilton, not Burr, has his image placed on our $10 bill, which should show you the sympathies of the Federal Reserve, having placed him on their counterfeit money that continues to deteriorate in value across the decades.

  • goldbug49ers goldbug49ers Apr 14, 2015 8:44 AM Flag

    Using FRNs as tinder?

    That’s exactly what the Germans did during their hyperinflation in 1923. Look on Wikipedia where there are photos of a woman stoking the kitchen stove with Marks.

    Remember, however, that most people are ignorant about what represents money and will allow the worst to happen, sheeple that they are. For those that are not so defined they need to keep their powder dry in order to be effective in bringing an end as soon as possible to the regime of counterfeit money issued by private central banks, such as the US Federal Reserve System.

    By the way, what ever happened to Chris Savvinidis? He articulated the problems faced by people forced to use FRNs. He even got some stinging criticism by Lush Bimbow who characterized him as just another stupid boob. This is where the problem arises when it comes to widespread ignorance. Bimbow is a master at supporting the propaganda surrounding support of fiat money systems by successfully characterizing himself as something he is not, conservative. He continually tries to paint himself as a “constitutionalist” without ever referring to the most important part of the US Constitution that defines what “money” must consist of. Propaganda, so far, has so saturated the public airwaves with the illusion that fiat money, in its various forms (QEn being but one) of debt issuance is not problematical. Total debt stated by some sources, when including things like CDOs, is now stated in the quadrillion$. Dollar bills laid end to end would thus reach the nearest star. Talk of insanity? Were these to actually be printed, long before that would be realized there wouldn’t be a tree left on Planet Earth.

  • As P. T. Barnum said, “There’s a sucker born every minute.” It happened again this morning in precious metals spot prices. This recurs so often that there must be a lot of those who watch the progress of the PM prices on the NY NYMEX that have an image burned on their computer monitors from when they accessed Kitco’s silver and gold spot prices. Prices get run up into mid-session, and then are driven sharply downwards. That must make a lot of people wonder who bought at the top. It would seem that da boyz is trolling for gold dollars until there are no more suckers left for their virtual gold mining efforts.

    The NYSE Composite volume continues to drop. It is moving opposite to PM spot prices this morning in a somewhat anemic fashion.

  • goldbug49ers by goldbug49ers Apr 12, 2015 1:41 PM Flag

    We have come across an excellent website to protect privacy. For those who know that the central banks would want to find out who their credible opposition is, and you feel you might be one of them, the following is pertinent. The name of the website is “Electronic Frontier Foundation” and it is located at EFFderORG. It is revealing how easy it is to track a person or organization as explained here.

  • goldbug49ers goldbug49ers Apr 11, 2015 1:08 PM Flag

    We understand your suggestion. The problem is that until PMs circulate as freely as fiat it will remain a problem for the average person and for companies within the sector. Most people at this point in time don’t have the knowledge or the desire to invest in PMs. That, of course, is obviously true as seen by the decline in PM prices. When that scenario changes those who visit message boards like this will become extremely wealthy. The rest will drown in most things paper based, with the except of most PM mining company investments.

    We are watching GCM.to. It has the potential, if fiat money goes the way of the dodo bird, to rise 150 or more times its current value. Visit the Yahoo web page for this company to understand that comment. In the meantime the question remains as to whether or not it will go bankrupt. It has gotten some financial relief recently because it was unable to pay on its debt obligations. Central banks would like nothing better than to take over operations such as at companies like this while retaining their fiat money Ponzi schemes. GCM should immediately emerge from its financial troubles with the rise in PM prices.

    Extreme patience, exceeding that of Yellen’s version of the word, is required and willingness to pass the baton to others if central banks succeed in drawing out their manipulation of PM pricing for many more years. If enough succeed in doing so it will be the end of the Fed in this country. They who have the gold make the rules. Central banks are attempting to see to it that they will be the rule makers with their PM accumulations while forcing fiat and other paper based investments on everyone else. That is why “confiscation” could become a possibility, whether or not it succeeds in fact.

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