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goldbug49ers 111 posts  |  Last Activity: Oct 9, 2015 12:45 AM Member since: Jul 9, 2010
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  • Reply to

    whatever happened to safe_in_bali

    by wild_gold Oct 8, 2015 8:39 PM
    goldbug49ers goldbug49ers Oct 9, 2015 12:45 AM Flag

    BaliBob got buried in his house when a BP gas well blew out and flooded the town with mud. Don't know about jadgplt7 or globalau73. We suspect the latter may have passed since he was a Viet vet. He and jad used to communicate quite frequently.

  • What WE would like to know, and what the article fails to state, is exactly WHO showed these CEO’s the door. This is typical reporting with big holes in the story, obviously meant to keep non-elitists from knowing who has been pulling the strings in financial markets.

    So Deutche purged its “leadership” did it? What happened? When they were on their way to the office did some mysterious low-level agent lock their office doors? And who was that “agent”? More to the point, who did that “agent” represent?

    There are a lot of unanswered questions as to who’s pulling the strings and more importantly, why that should not be publicized. It makes these 2 guys look like nothing more than scapegoats that were doing what they were told to do by elitists that certainly don’t want their names to be made public. Nothing is going to get fixed unless the real source of these issues is identified and prosecuted. (Fat chance, huh?) Somebodies are stealing big time and don’t want to be identified.

    But let’s take a wild guess, based on past history. Were the Rothschild’s involved? We certainly wouldn't want to exile them to Devil’s Island, now would we? Besides they might escape like Henri Charrière's in the book "Papillon", but undoubtedly in a more grand style on some luxurious yacht; maybe even a specially constructed submarine built for the purpose with ill-gotten gains.

    As you can see, putting these crooks out of business permanently is going to take the kind of sentence that insures they can’t return and do it yet again by placing the blame on others.

  • goldbug49ers goldbug49ers Oct 8, 2015 3:27 PM Flag


    One of us also had economic training. But be “careful”. That’s not usually a positive statement on whether such training provides an accurate view of the subject since university economics departments are funded by the Federal Reserve Banks. Instructors must toe the line or have their tenure at risk.

    Further experience of those who objected to the notion that “money” needed backing or it was not really money, but rather debt, got a rebuke from the professor. It’s interesting that there was only one other in the class that held the same view and raised their objections. Fortunately, the guy was fair and it did not impact grades, implying that he knew what the truth was but also knew better than to teach it,

    We therefore hope that there will be a growing number of students who object to the falsehoods being taught in university economics departments. It is too bad that the so called “conservative” talk circuit refuses to address the core issue of fraudulent money as the heart of our domestic and international problems, including domestic debt levels; and also interesting that their "profit centers" include ads by PM dealers. This is indicative; also, of the problem that nearly all politicians are bought and paid for by big corporations and the largest banks; inclusive of the so called “conservative” talk circuit.

    An interesting youtube news conference with Charles de Gaulle titled: “Charles de Gaulle, Monetary Crisis Ghost of 1965 – YouTube” should form the basis of current thinking on how the international community at that time viewed this country’s international settlements with counterfeit American dollars, and brings us to where we are today, trillion$ in debt, actually into the quadrillion$ range if all American debt is included, such as various forms of derivatives.

  • goldbug49ers goldbug49ers Oct 7, 2015 6:31 PM Flag

    You are embarrassments “manst9” and NY Cab Man. Posting publicly your untrue statements should make you change your point of view when faced with indisputable facts (which appears not to be the case), and if you are not so hidebound to do so.

    1. Labor Force Participation Rate - Bureau of Labor Statistics Data (BIS)
    2. Civilian Labor Force Participation Rate - FRED - St. Louis Fed
    3. Unemployment Is Low But More Workers Are Leaving the Workforce ... US News (this creates the kind of phony numbers NY cab man clings to)
    4. Labor force participation rate falls faster in U.S. than elsewhere ... (Fortune Magazine)
    5. Record 93,770,000 (million) Americans Not in Labor Force; Participation Rate ... (CNS News)
    6. Wikipedia: “Unemployment”

    Anyone interested enough to do their own DD can put: "labor force participation rate" and get about 70,618 similar results. We will agree at the difficulty in getting accurate results based on government statistics, but not the penchant to attempt to skew employment statistics favorable to the political class, in particular those of the Democrat Party.

    If you are really a NY cabman we’ll opt for UBER, thank you very much, as they don’t depend on the iron fist of government to set their rates. UBER is probably more attuned to the real world. We recently used UBER in our area and the cost was 25% of a government licensed cab service.

    “mainst9” you should take a remedial reading course for you to understand what “Labor Force Participation Rate” means. It means just what it says; those who are participating among a population of LIKELY job seekers. Retirees, by definition, are NOT job seekers, unless in today’s economy they cannot make ends meet unless they take whatever might be available to them. In that case they WOULD be counted among the employed, skewing the employment rate higher. That’s also the case with many who cannot obtain work representative of their skill levels due to the illegal immigration factor and outsourcing.

  • goldbug49ers goldbug49ers Oct 6, 2015 9:10 PM Flag

    Addendum (for the ignorant that prefer unsubstantiated cemmentary:

    The figures for labor force participation rate are easily obtained from the St. Louis Fed, Fortune Magazine and even the White House as below 63%. It is at a 38 year low. Hopefully it will be understood that this BAD news, and not GOOD news as Cabman & Mainst9 might try to imply.

    From the deniers here it becomes obvious that they are short the precious metals market and are beginning to lose their shirts. Lying is one of the strategies that always seems to be used by losers like this.

  • goldbug49ers goldbug49ers Oct 6, 2015 8:43 PM Flag

    Speaking of fraud, mainst9, and your attempt to paint the 23% figure as fraud, those who are drawing Social Security retirement are not included in the 23% real unemployment rate. Nice try at bamboozling with a straw man argument.

  • goldbug49ers goldbug49ers Oct 5, 2015 1:03 PM Flag

    Please cite an expert source for your information, not including you. (None of your other screen names either, please.)

    Many people here regard you as a fool, and rightly so.

  • goldbug49ers goldbug49ers Oct 5, 2015 12:43 PM Flag

    That’s very simple. The general public is waking up to the threat of a currency collapse, finally. Premiums for silver are exploding. Silver Eagles, for example, are $4 over a vanilla 10 oz bar. The Mint is unable to supply the demand. This, in turn, encourages more demand as people fear they will not be able to have their order fulfilled. What “something tells” you is incorrect because billions of people’s demand outweighs every bank on the planet. The gold/silver ratio is plunging.

  • goldbug49ers goldbug49ers Oct 4, 2015 9:21 PM Flag

    “ ... reality is, money and its value are all just made up out of thin air, ...”
    You are TOTALLY wrong. There have been societies that used other things in trade, the American Indians, for example, used “wampum”, a type of seashell.

    The Chinese used tree bark, and some state that it was the first form of paper money. However, It had to be used on pain of death. Here Federal Reserve Notes are required, but point out to us anywhere in the US Constitution that it says this is “legal” tender. Our money is defined in Article I, Section 10.

    We now live in a fascist dictatorship that ignores what the US Constitution states.

    Money acquires value, in western thinking, because it is durable, rare and therefore has intrinsic value. People, like you, have been led to believe these are characteristic that don’t matter. Tell that to gold mine company management after they’ve spent billion$ identifying where to mine using trained geologists, acquire the heavy equipment, energy to run the equipment, engineering resources and materials, to open mine.

    Does your cluelessness arise from being told this nonsense by some economics department professor, whose job security is tied to how favorable, ultimately, the Federal Reserve regards his tenure?

    The rest of your post indicates you do have a glimmer of what constitutes money, but it is unstated.
    “Inflation”, by the way, is a word that has been made up when associated with money to imply that what money is traded for has increased in value, and not that the “money” has lost value.

  • goldbug49ers goldbug49ers Oct 3, 2015 2:47 PM Flag

    Give up “sandy”.

    This person is a socialist/liberal. It’s all about central conrol for “mainst9”. You won’t even get an argument from mainst9 on that point. There are people who cling to the notion that people must be controlled by the select intelligencia, because only THEY know what is best for everyone else. Note how mainst9 thinks it necessary to be an “economist” in order to “control economic outcomes” favorably. There is nothing currently or since 1913 to support that.

    Thomas Jefferson said it best. “If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their Fathers conquered...I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies... The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs."

    Of course mainst9’s response would be that Thomas Jefferson is not an “economist” and therefore unqualified.

    Economy comes from the Greek word “oikonomia”, and means “management of a household”.

    So its CURRENT, and totally different, incarnation is as a tool of national and international control, or as Jefferson stated: "If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their Fathers conquered ...”

    It would seem that we are well on our way to what Jefferson foresaw. People, like mainst9, who are on a MISSION OF PLUNDER are not going to change through rational argumentation, since that would violate their objective of conquest.

  • goldbug49ers goldbug49ers Oct 3, 2015 3:56 AM Flag

    Greenspan was corrupted by the attraction to the important position of Chairman of the Federal Reserve, just as you, “mainst9”, are corrupted because you want to be attached to the power centers that control people, rather than extend the ideals of liberty.

    Greenspan approved of the replacement of the Glass-Steagall Act with the Gramm–Leach–Bliley Act, which ended the separation of investment banking with commercial banking. That takes us to where we are today where these bankster criminals socialize their loses (Too Big To Fail), i. e., the public pays (TARP).

  • goldbug49ers goldbug49ers Oct 3, 2015 3:24 AM Flag

    Our job isn't done until we're done with you.

  • goldbug49ers goldbug49ers Oct 3, 2015 3:06 AM Flag

    More than 100 years of "learn"ing has proven 1 thing, since the dollar has lost 97% of its value. It's original intent as a medium of exchange issued by a private central bank was plunder with the proceeds going to the elitist inner circle.

  • Reply to

    The Federal Reserve... and where we are today

    by goldbug49ers Sep 25, 2015 4:36 PM
    goldbug49ers goldbug49ers Oct 3, 2015 2:39 AM Flag

    Please tell us what your view is of “lawful money”, as stated in the US Constitution. If you need help it is located at Article I, Section 10.

    While you’re at it, tell us what the penalty is if government officials engage in counterfeiting. You can start with Article I, Section 8; followed by the Coinage Act of 1792, which defines the penalty for counterfeiting. Please state what your understanding is of the penalty to be assessed for counterfeiting by government officials. Within the Coinage Act is defined what the content of our coinage is to be, which by extension defines what is counterfeiting.

    These are simple questions, easily found in the US Constitution and the Coinage Act. Please don’t attempt to ignore the answers by a barrage of non-relevant statements to diminish the value of the questioner. Just answer the questions.

    We don’t believe any of this is complicated. It is easily understood by any with moderate reading skills. It is made seemingly complicated by banksters as cover for their illegal/unconstitutional activities; in other words it is a type of shell game meant to divert attention away from criminal activity..

    If you choose not to answer these questions it is clear that your motives are in support of those who are law-breakers; or you could plead the 5th Amendment, if you so choose, and not answer at all.

    By the way, no where in the US Constitution is the word “economist” (that you so highly regard) to be found. It is unnecessary in a free society where the People control their government. The ONLY function of economists is to spread enough confusion about financial matters so that criminality can go undetected. There are those who arose to confront this problem of “economic dissemblers”, who are not technically economists as presently understood, whereas Ludvig Von Mises, for example,.was truly an "economist, but more accurately described as one who could reveal the true intent of elitist plunder..

  • Reply to

    The Federal Reserve... and where we are today

    by goldbug49ers Sep 25, 2015 4:36 PM
    goldbug49ers goldbug49ers Oct 2, 2015 10:29 PM Flag

    “...Still wondering what freedoms were lost after 9-11.” (it’s unclear what you might like to comment on in your puzzlement. Please do.):
    1. NSA
    2. Edward Snowden
    3. TSA
    4. FEMA Camps
    5. JADE HELM
    6. Attacks on 2nd Amendment
    7. Enormous deficits. TARP money headed solely for Wall Street, major corporations and foreign banks due primarily TO THE FED’s acquiescence to a spendthrift Congress & POTUS
    8. Fed money manipulating the political process for their self-serving objectives.
    9. Near total manipulation of financial markets by FED or their proxies, including PM markets.
    10. Destruction of the dollar by Congress, POTUS and the FED.
    11. Illegal immigration
    12. False statistics on unemployment and “inflation”
    13. Meddling in USA politics by the PRIVATE Federal Reserve System
    14. And many others you are welcome to comment on.

    The above are considered freedoms lost since 9-11 even though lost previously, because they were never restored, just like reducing taxes. Once in place forget about going back to an earlier time.

    You are welcome to add or detract from the above. There is quite a following by many on the above issues from various sources. We have personally witnessed the threat of JADE HELM, as a suggested violation of Posse Comitatis, as commented on earlier, that drew negative reactions from witnesses.

    If you are unable to consider any of these as “freedom’s lost”, please say why. Don’t be afraid. We still have free speech within the 1st Amendment. Right?

  • Reply to

    The Federal Reserve... and where we are today

    by goldbug49ers Sep 25, 2015 4:36 PM
    goldbug49ers goldbug49ers Oct 2, 2015 5:38 PM Flag

    Ha, ha, ha.

    Notice that we drew one of the cabalists out of hiding (as per rating) with our response with our commentary concerning the bright future of those who invest in SLW when it bottoms.

  • Reply to

    The Federal Reserve... and where we are today

    by goldbug49ers Sep 25, 2015 4:36 PM
    goldbug49ers goldbug49ers Oct 2, 2015 1:56 PM Flag

    We don’t participate in Forex or its incarnations, other than to note how it effects the precious metals (PMs) sector. Our only interests are in the PM sector. Why would anyone participate in fiat money investments, knowing that it is only a race to the bottom? There is no way of knowing how that might be revealed as paper money, and paper based assets head for the basement when people finally wake up.

    The only exception to that is PM mining shares and PM royalty/streaming companies (such as SLW). These will experience leverage in any turn-around in the PM sector. SLW will surge past previous highs, and with the current share price the profit potential is enormous. The trick is, of course, to buy in at what is close to the bottom. This is what the elitists fear most, and manipulate markets furiously to prevent any outcome where investors outside their inner circle do successfully.

  • Reply to

    The Federal Reserve... and where we are today

    by goldbug49ers Sep 25, 2015 4:36 PM
    goldbug49ers goldbug49ers Oct 2, 2015 11:26 AM Flag

    Some place the date that it will become clear that China’s Yuan will join the Reserve Currency Club as October 20th. Such an event will TANK the dollar. Today the USD is down versus the Yuan. Is it anticipation of that outcome?

  • goldbug49ers goldbug49ers Oct 1, 2015 10:17 PM Flag

    Since you always prefer to cast aspersions on the “idiots” and those of low intellect (“stupid”), rather than respond with your own relevant facts of record, here’s one you can add to you roster, using the words of Woodrow Wilson:

    National Economy and the Banking System, Senate Documents, Col. 3 No. 23 PAGE 100.

    The quote is mostly words Wilson actually wrote, with the first two sentences of it apparently being incorrect and the rest taken from Wilson's The New Freedom. Below is what one can actually derive from connecting together two passages from The New Freedom:

    A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is privately concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men

    ... [W]e have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated, governments in the civilized world—no longer a government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and the duress of small groups of dominant men.

    Wilson was, of course, referring to his unfortunate backing of the Federal Reserve Act occupied by “small groups of dominant men.”

    It seems, “mainst9” that you might at some future time have that proverbial light bulb go off in your head as you discover you’ve also been duped, unless, of course, you prefer the role of a plunderer, or a sympathizer thereto.

  • goldbug49ers goldbug49ers Oct 1, 2015 1:28 PM Flag

    ZIMBABWE, CYPRESS, WEIMAR REPUBLIC (Germany)... & on its way, the USA. These ALL occurred AFTER 1913. Why don’t you take your revisionist history and get lost “mainst9”?

    Who do you represent, anyway, on this message board “mainst9”? Just another central bankster shill? Or are you just their puppet on a string, brainwashed by too many years in academia? Or are you playing the Devil’s Advocate? (Naah. That’s too accepting that you might have an ounce of goodness within.)

    For those of you tending to accept “mainst9” hogwash, you would be better served spending your time watching the major stock market averages in crash mode, soon to be followed by a massive flight to safety in precious metals (PMs), for those that remain to flee to.

    Incidentally, new later dated call option writers are nowhere to be found in the precious metals LEAPS category. It seems that no one thinks the risk is worth it. That’s a huge statement of where the PM sector is headed. UP! Maybe not tomorrow, or in 2 weeks, but certainly within 6 months; when it becomes clear that the crash is even worse than 1929.

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