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greendog03 46 posts  |  Last Activity: 2 hours 8 minutes ago Member since: Oct 29, 2003
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  • Reply to

    Can somebody tell me

    by jimmyjay696 15 hours ago
    greendog03 greendog03 2 hours 8 minutes ago Flag

    The company has been dead money for 6 years now. The only ones making any money here is the management team - they get more stock all the time and you'll never see a insider buy here. They made one lousy acquisition after another. If you own shares i would move on - it wasn't clear what they were talking about the dividend - but I interrupted as they are probably going to eliminate it since they can't make any money and they sure don't want to cut management salaries which is where they surely should start since ready is well overpaid for a company that is going no where.

  • greendog03 greendog03 22 hours ago Flag

    Its like listening to Obama tell you Al-queda is on the run.

  • Reply to

    Now you Know Why COO Sold His Stock.

    by hansy_burkhalter Aug 20, 2014 4:26 PM
    greendog03 greendog03 23 hours ago Flag

    I'll bet next quarter will beat earning estimates and then the following quarter they'll miss - not an ounce of consistency. So until then, this is basically a trading vehicle. if it sells off buy it - rebounds sells it. Buy it before next quarters earnings then sell it after the rise - on and on - same old story quarter after quarter - they surprise -then disappoint you - like a crazy relationship - sometimes its just better to cut ties until they have their act together - if ever

  • Reply to

    stock is worth 21

    by seth1611 Aug 18, 2014 3:41 PM
    greendog03 greendog03 Aug 20, 2014 9:38 AM Flag

    Management just needs to focus on growing the company and the analysts and the street will come.

  • I keep waiting for this to get to a point where I know I'm getting a good deal when I buy it. I don't mind paying up for growth, but the last 2 years the growth has stalled with a very high PE now. If this can get under 20 it would be a good time to buy. So I patiently wait for that moment. I think at some point the street will give up on Raven and then I'll have my chance to get on board for the ship to sail again.

  • Reply to

    ZACKS AT ITS BEST

    by bejupete Aug 4, 2014 4:33 PM
    greendog03 greendog03 Aug 16, 2014 3:08 PM Flag

    zacks is base on someones opinion - thats it - some guy in a suit - listen to yourself - study the market and you'll do fine - just ignore all the talking heads they sometimes get it right and sometimes get it wrong - thats how investing works with those guys. When zack's rates something at 5 its probably the ideal time to buy it and the opposite is probably true the other way. if i like a company i totally ignore what zacks says - the stock is going to do what its going to do regardless of someones opinion

  • Reply to

    data disply acquisition

    by dutchref Aug 15, 2014 9:02 AM
    greendog03 greendog03 Aug 15, 2014 12:55 PM Flag

    Hey chris move on - you add no value to the conversation - your Crystal ball has perceived that by them announcing an acquisition prior to earnings that earnings are going to be soft. So the logic is by announcing the acquisition people will buy the stock and then be thrown under the bus when earnings are announced - good balance sheet, 3 percent dividend, selling at the low end of range - looks pretty much washed out to me - And the expectations of some good earnings isn't there, but hey, if they surprise on the upside - they'll go much higher than they will down if earnings disappoint.

  • Reply to

    great report. Positive future at last

    by pharmabizwiz Aug 12, 2014 8:18 AM
    greendog03 greendog03 Aug 12, 2014 8:25 AM Flag

    Yeah, when are they ever going to earn any money? Hence, why they sell at under a buck - well, eventually they are going to run out of assets to sell.

  • Reply to

    AOS

    by danhammond58 Aug 1, 2014 2:59 PM
    greendog03 greendog03 Aug 10, 2014 8:44 PM Flag

    This is a good company except the stock price is really just too expensive selling over 20 times earniings on future earnings.

  • Reply to

    What a disaster

    by masleym Aug 8, 2014 7:22 PM
    greendog03 greendog03 Aug 10, 2014 8:33 PM Flag

    What disaster? The speculative, fast money crowd ran for cover when the cmall caps took a down turn. I'm not sure how you make any money in the market. You bought it on some super hype by these newletters they don't know anything. these guys are growing the business and still earning money and the funny thing a good quarter and the stock price will be off to the races. But hey, if you don't really understand the company or think its got nothing going for it - then surely move on - it will feel good - unless the stock price takes off and then you can say shoulds, woulda, coulda.

  • Reply to

    Dead Message Board=Dead Stock

    by hansy_burkhalter Aug 5, 2014 2:14 PM
    greendog03 greendog03 Aug 10, 2014 8:24 PM Flag

    As i said before, if the stock price is ever going to go anywhere, it needs to generate consistent earning growth which has yet to occur.

  • Reply to

    Nice Qtr

    by jimjonesknows1 Aug 7, 2014 11:22 PM
    greendog03 greendog03 Aug 8, 2014 9:20 PM Flag

    I remember the days of this once high flying stock when it was in the fifties. So maybe htis is the beginning of a steady rise. i don't care how they do it as long as the earnings go up.

  • Are there really any american companies actually making money in china - it sure seems that its more trouble than its worth - you always have to partner with a chinese company , then, after awhile, there always seems to be another chinese company that seems to have the same exact product of yours. i wonder how that happens. of course, there are no patent laws in china so your prioduct is always at the mercy of being stolen.

  • Reply to

    OMG currently trading 5x EV/EBITDA

    by pigsmasher13 Aug 1, 2014 12:25 PM
    greendog03 greendog03 Aug 1, 2014 3:53 PM Flag

    You need a real economy to grow earnings. all the companies out there have spent so much time cutting costs that there really hasn't been much innovation these past 7 years. If people could get 3 percent of their money in the bank the stock market would be 25 to 30 percent lower, which the feds know all too well. Add in all the gov't regulations and lack of effort by the democratic leadership, and the market is like a rudderless ship. And it gets a little old listening to cnbc analysts telling us the economy is getting better - that old saying is getting pretty old. the bottom line we have become japan- no growth and zero interest rates.

  • Reply to

    What on god's green earth is going on with CMP?

    by tlabinsider Jul 28, 2014 11:54 AM
    greendog03 greendog03 Jul 28, 2014 9:42 PM Flag

    its call liquidity from forced zero interest rates. i shouldn't have to tell you how this is all going to end especially when we are living in a fake economy based on debt, no income growth, and no real jobs.

  • Reply to

    What on god's green earth is going on with CMP?

    by tlabinsider Jul 28, 2014 11:54 AM
    greendog03 greendog03 Jul 28, 2014 2:21 PM Flag

    its call the street had high expectations and the company didn't deliver and the market is tired. if you haven't notice a lot of small caps havn't be doing well lately. but with this pathetic administration in office whats their to be excited about in the future.

  • Reply to

    RBC had this as their top pick!

    by zd_bar Jul 25, 2014 7:14 AM
    greendog03 greendog03 Jul 25, 2014 8:50 AM Flag

    i was thinking the same thing. they wait until their top pick has bottom out to downgrade it which basically means its time to buy. but whats even funnier and I really don't even know who would follow them - they down grade it from 65 to 54 and the stock price is 38 - I 'm thinking thats a helluva down grade expecting the stock to go up 30 percent.

  • Reply to

    Nice closing remarks on conference calls

    by nhoutsideobserver Jul 24, 2014 10:41 AM
    greendog03 greendog03 Jul 24, 2014 12:28 PM Flag

    Well its time for the ceo to put his money where his mouth is. So I should be seeing a nice open market buy from the guy anytime

  • Reply to

    $0.61 looks like a miss....

    by bjornbjorg Jul 24, 2014 8:08 AM
    greendog03 greendog03 Jul 24, 2014 12:21 PM Flag

    The wash out has occured. it willl probably base here for awhile and then get his act together

  • Reply to

    HURC manipulation

    by bull_ever_bear Jul 24, 2014 10:00 AM
    greendog03 greendog03 Jul 24, 2014 10:51 AM Flag

    Yeah, i notice after these articles pump up the price - the stocks then sell off nicely. So there might be something to what you are saying. Stocks that go up on hype usually run out of air and go back to where they started unless its based on good earnings, then the stock price has some real energy to move higher

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