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To back up what was previously said, the following is an excellent example of a country fed up with political and banking corruption, and has done something about it.
See: “Icelanders Overthrow Government and Rewrite Constitution After Banking Fraud-No Word From US Media”
You won’t find this story by any mainstream US news organization, so it is obvious how fraud is being encouraged by mainstream journalists. This sort of lack of coverage used to be typical of the Soviet press.
“...The problem is the people in charge of prosecuting are corrupt too, so they are easily bought. ...”
But by whom? The problem seems to be that no one knows, or will say, who is doing the buying. Whoever they are is the source of the real problem. To bribe politicians with special favors is a felony subject to imprisonment and large fines, if we lived in a just world. What the United States has devolved into is a kick-back kleptocracy. Follow the future of Eric Holder when he leaves government service and that will become clear.
Holder: “But I am concerned that the size of some of these institutions becomes so large that it does become difficult for us to prosecute them when we are hit with indications that if you do prosecute, if you do bring a criminal charge, it will have a negative impact on the national economy, perhaps even the world economy. And I think that is a function of the fact that some of these institutions have become too large.”
If we had a POTUS that was not also on the take he would immediately have replaced Holder after he made that comment.
Obviously we are never going to realize justice in this country with people like Holder in charge. For example, tiny Iceland had no problem sending the bankster criminals in their country to jail that Holder feels would be counterproductive here in the USA. Iceland now is experiencing renewed prosperity since they did so. Wouldn’t Iceland have found it much easier to make an Eric Holder type comment?
Q: “When’s the last time you heard anyone in a religious pulpit discuss the fraud committed by private central banks?"
A: “Simple answer, never. From my experience, I suppose their emphasis is generally on saving Souls not the monetary system.”
Why build these enormous edifices so the pulpeteers can babble about the inconsequential? If you think the pulpeteers are naïve, then why are they deaf to the level of discontent from people who see their standard of living disappearing? What sort of souls are they engaged in preserving? Could it be that behind the veil their efforts are directed at creating the illusion that counterfeit “money” actually has value? Are the only ignoramuses the ones who stand before them as they are preached to? If you have a problem with the hermeneutics, just consider that Christ was no simpleton. He knew exactly what the “money changers” were up to, which is just an earlier and less egregious form of what the central banks are engaging in today. Maybe today He’d use an Uzi instead of just lashing them.
In fact He saw just where this would lead, as was written in the book of Revelation. The greatest transgressions are being committed by those connected with the central banking industry, and this does not exclude the leaderships in religious organizations. They will be on the left and those who adhere to the principles of honest money will be on the right. Those on the left will be damned as the unrepentant criminals that they are.
Why is the issue of honest money so important; because it is the medium of exchange between peoples everywhere by which civilizations can advance relatively free of conflict. When it is fraudulently produced social structures collapse until the perpetrators are dealt with. Interestingly this echoes the sentiments of Alan Greenspan before he was corrupted during service as the Chairman of the Federal Reserve. Leave it to others to decide who are the primary corrupting powers.
“The economy is a mathematical simulation and not real as you were taught in school or in the universities.”
That’s your first mistake, which is to believe what you were taught in college/university had anything to do with economics. In reality it was Federal Reserve System brainwashing because the Fed funds economics departments. If the instructor doesn’t toe the line he’ll be gone.
As far as the rest, the following is a rather amusing take on banking (within Yahoo mb limits). The rest can be found in “The Creature from Jekyll Island":
Q. What are banks for?
A. To make money.
Q. For the customers?
A. For the banks.
Q. Why doesn't bank advertising
A. It would not be in good taste.
But it is mentioned by implication
in references to reserves of
$249,000,000 or thereabouts.
That is the money that they have
Q. Out of the customers?
A. I suppose so.
Q. They also mention Assets of
$500,000,000 or thereabouts.
Have they made that too?
A. Not exactly. That is the
money they use to make money.
Q. I see. And they keep it in a
A. Not at all. They lend it to
Q. Then they haven't got it?
Q. Then how is it Assets?
A. They maintain that it would
be if they got it back.
Q. But they must have some
money in a safe somewhere?
A. They wouldn't like you to
draw it out again.
Q. Why not? If I keep it there
you say it's a Liability. Wouldn't
they be glad if I reduced their
Liabilities by removing it?
A. No. Because if you remove it
they can't lend it to anyone else.
Q. But if I wanted to remove it
they'd have to let me?
Q. But suppose they've already
lent it to another customer?
A. Then they'll let you have
someone else's money.
Q. But suppose he wants his too
... and they've let me have it?
A. You're being purposely obtuse.
Q. I think I'm being acute. What
if everyone wanted their money
A. It's the theory of banking
practice that they never would.
“...Lost me with the houses of worship and fraudster brainwashing connection...”
When’s the last time you heard anyone in a religious pulpit discuss the fraud committed by private central banks? And who was it that cast the “money changers” out of the Temple?
And when’s the last time an educational institution, be it secondary school or a college level economics department discussed how fiat money is highway robbery by the bankster class? Apparently you are unaware that college/university level economics departments receive large grants from the Federal Reserve System. That’s the brainwashing connection.
Or is it that you are cut from the same cloth as “stein76”?
See: “The Creature from Jekyll Island” by G. Edward Griffin if you want to gravitate to the real world and not that which has been defined by fraudulent central banks and their criminal elitist backers. It is a free download at archive dot org. If you are, as you claim, “lost”, you MIGHT also be characterized as naïve.
“In explorer Charles Sturt’s time it was so hot that the thermometers exploded...”
Actually that was back in the day when there were still large herds of methane gas producing Australian cattle that contributed greatly to the “greenhouse effect”. Hehehe.
Now the beef industry is in decline and Georgia is experiencing record snowfalls as we transcend into another ice age. So there you have your solution. Take the Australian beef industries’ advice and eat more beef. Don't listen to Al Gore.
Jeeez! Do they put some of these fiat-ists in a rubber room and program them to imagine that all of the geology, engineering development and materials processing has no value in comparison to paper assets. They must spend their nights listening to George Noory and think dark matter (as in counterfeit money taking on value) actually exists. Maybe someone has an explanation for characters like this, as it really is other worldly. Or are they really examples of aliens from outer space? Maybe they’ve the alchemists’ formula to transmute paper into gold. Oh yes! They do it, but it’s called fraud, as in fractional reserve banking. But fraudsters do have their talents as they’ve bought the airwaves, politicians and houses of worship in order to brainwash the public into believing in their alchemy.
Those who come on this message board to bash longs have got to be experiencing extreme pain as PMs have made extraordinary gains recently. You know who they are, one in particular. Look for them to soon disappear as their new avocation will be panhandling on street corners to avoid starvation. Perhaps they should give out a PO Box to give to this message board to request charitable donations in order to relieve them from their current losses. The income from such a request should only set back the donors a small percentage of their current gains.
The losses these shorts are experiencing are shortly going to make them disappear from this message board. When that happens you will know where to find them; on freeway off-ramps, in front of markets carrying homeless signs, overflowing the capacities of charity shelters, raising the statistics of the banks for increased mortgage defaults, and many other typical locations not to mention adding to burgeoning Federal deficits.
For those who wonder why silver hasn’t moved up recently; it is because this is a bankster driven updraft. The mega central banks rarely get involved in the silver market due to storage costs. Wait to see how willing they are to keep driving the price of gold upwards, wait for a pullback, and then dive into the silver sector for the next leg up.
EMP=Electro Magnetic Pulse.
What happens if an enemy uses EMP to destroy the Internet and the financial system? Would the PMs that have survived for thousands of years also be destroyed? Who is it that is REALLY behind these electronic currencies? Are bitcoins merely an offshoot of what JP Morgan planned way back in 1999 as a worldwide currency?
Many people seem to be enamored by things they don’t understand as if they come from some superior intellects rather than the crooks they really represent.
See: “Bitcoin rival or lost chance? J.P. Morgan applies to renew a 13-year old anonymous payments patent”
Anyone who thinks that this is something worthwhile being a part of when JPM is behind something quite similar is among the minions waiting to be fleeced.
It is assumed that your mention of “drug dealers” refers to the big banks, like HSBC and JPM, that have been part of a drug laundering network.
Watching the PM markets this morning it looks like European regulators are doing their job going after the manipulative crooks in the currency, LIBOR and PM markets.
However, as PM markets open in the USA it is business as usual with the hint of yet another take-down of US PM markets on the open. See Kitco or Goldprice charts.
Blythe Master is the banksters pig.
Her quote: ”As adviser to the CFTC, my only goal is financial stability. Or as I like to put it: "Making banks even more too bigger to fail."”
If that sounds rude, consider the damage people like her do to worldwide economies in furtherance of their own greed.
“...Even if it did, the Supreme Court would kill it...”
You have a short memory. It was Chief Justice Roberts that went along with the idea that Obamacare was a tax, and not an overstepping of the US Constitution.
What contortions might they come up with to legitimatize nationalizing IRAs/401Ks? When push comes to shove and the government can no longer rely on other countries to fund its enormous deficits with deteriorating dollar valuations they’ll be coming after everyone with fungible assets, just like in the Cyprus “bail-in”. You never know what the criminal mindset might be capable of next. When the government takes without a vote of the people or adherence to Constitutional law it has become a dictatorship. It is enforced by a police state (as in Obamacare) and is run by executive order, which is a euphemism for “the rule of man” through the current White House tyrant, Obama, along with the rest of the go-along-to-get-along crowd inside the beltway, party affiliation aside.
Beyond that the country will not survive your proposed timeline. The economy will implode long before that bringing into play the aforementioned plunder.
Isn’t this the same party whose SOTH said, on the ACA, “We have to pass the bill to find out what’s in it.”?
Isn’t this the President who said, “If You Like Your Plan, You Can Keep Your Plan”? Isn’t this the president who claimed he could run the country by executive order if he doesn’t get his way on the ACA?
Aren’t the Republicans the ones who always back down for fear that they may be perceived as racists if they oppose Obama in no uncertain terms over the issues?
Don’t be so sure that a public, that has put this President in office, will not continue their support if the free “money” keeps flowing their way. Polling numbers for Obama have not dropped quickly enough to instill confidence that many are quite supportive of the socialist agenda flowing out of Washington, DC. On a Constitutional basis Obama should be impeached for violating his oath of office to adhere to the Constitution. But there are far too many Luddites out there who would rather be on the dole than earning an honest living. If that was not the case Obama would never have become POTUS. Many thought Romney would easily win the election. He lost, even though his support of the Massachusetts healthcare law, which brought it into existence, indicated that even Romney was not left leaning enough to garner public support in the Presidential race.
There are states, like New Mexico, whose populations are sufficiently conservative, that are aware “money” does not grow on trees. New Mexico put Gary Johnson in office to replace Bruce King as Governor. When he got termed out the state had gone from massive deficits to a surplus. New Mexico is not representative of much of the rest of the country. People are too uneducated to understand the benefits of electing a Libertarian politician.
Maybe the best solution is secession. But then the worry would have to be the massive spending on weapons targeted by the Federal Government for domestic use, such as is being directed towards the US Postal Service.
Many are at a loss to explain how stock indexes can continue what seems to be an eternal march upwards. Let’s take a look at one aspect of this. Many are constrained in their market participation through employment as investment decisions are through money manager and out of their control. Investment decisions by money managers may be more attuned to the direction banksters wish to see them go.
The BLS shows that employment labor participation has fallen since 2008. That means a much smaller universe of participants in financial markets as well. Just look at the volume on the DJIA. It has also been trending downwards, despite falling volume. Could this also be a creature of market manipulation by the elite drawing the reduced population of the remaining investors through their employers into a trap to be sprung in a slowly declining market trending into “bear” territory? Given that many of these participants are captured by employment related investment plans, how easy might it be for them to be fleeced in an accelerating market meltdown? The volume of investments in these plans is massive and a sure target for plunder.
If it was possible to call a market top, even the government’s penalties for opting out of such plans could end up relatively positive versus remaining in them. Have some of you already experienced this by participation in years gone by?
This is a warning to all thinking of investing in this fund. In what looks to be a turn-around in precious metals, this fund continues to show lower percentage gains. The following was posted on 2/3/14. Because the original post was 11/3/13, no messages would display: (See the original topic to get the context for the following)
“Rather than feel sorry you need to inform people what’s going on here.
Frank Holmes is in the pockets of the Federal Reserve, just as was William Boyce Thompson, the founder of Newmont Mining and the first Chairman of the Federal Reserve. PM mining companies depend on financing for mine expansion. That “money” comes from banks that are part of the Federal Reserve System run by their elitist, mostly foreign, handlers. The last thing central banks want is to see PMs, which are real money, endanger their issuance of fiat counterfeit monopoly “money”. (For the Fed crooks one of the other ways to support their fiat money is screwing precious metals mining fund investors.)
Holmes UNWPX fund is among the highest cost PM mining funds out there. Those costs go into Holmes pockets and that of his employees, so he could care less about those invested in his fund. That is true of all PM mining funds. Vanguard advertises as being a low cost vendor of funds. Visit their website to discover just how high UNWPX costs are and compare them.
The way around fund costs is to look at the portfolios of top performing funds and the top performing PM mining companies in their portfolios. Invest in them, get the advantage of high performance from those high performing PM mining companies and avoid all the costs the funds pass on to their investors.
We are now in an era where most have access to data on every aspect within the investment world. In the past that was only available through the literature provided by brokerage firms, or snail mail requests to companies of interest. There is no excuse for not making this relatively easy research.”
“...This is a scary time to be long in anything. ...”
The Fed will not allow an audit of Germany’s gold. They also will not accede to the demand to have what is at the Fed returned as the alternative. We have to contend with criminals at the upper levels of governments, financial firms, regulatory bodies, large news organizations and the country’s biggest corporations. Making decisions with that as a backdrop is nearly impossible. To hear someone like Rick Edelman speak on his nationally syndicated broadcast you’d think he was an insider to all this corruption making his financial advisory role quite valuable until honesty returns and his “sources” are on the way to prison.
The thing about all this corruption is that it is allowing countries unfriendly to the concept of liberty, like China, do the same “sucking sound” for gold that Ross Perot stated would be the result of NAFTA. The end result of this will be “He Who Has The Gold Makes The Rules”. The western elite are impossibly stupid to continue to attack gold ownership through price manipulation among those they consider worthy only of their control. They will control nothing in the end even as China has encouraged gold ownership among it minions. The only trick remaining is trying to guess when western elitists will lose control. Past predictions by market gurus have always been wrong.
If you wish to get a true picture of employment, visit the Bureau of Labor Statistics' website titled, "Labor Force Participation Rate"
It has been in a downward trend since 2008. This shows the lie the has been continually broadcast by mass media that give the appearance that employment growth is improving. If charted this would disclose that the bottom portion of the charts is continually being removed to give the appearance of growth.
Of course most here already know this, but there are a number of references to statistics at the beginning of this topic which fail to give the whole picture, unless you visit the BLS website. Failing to provide a broader context is quite misleading.
Rather than feel sorry you need to inform people what’s going on here.
Frank Holmes is in the pockets of the Federal Reserve, just as was William Boyce Thompson, the founder of Newmont Mining and the first Chairman of the Federal Reserve. PM mining companies depend on financing for mine expansion. That “money” comes from banks that are part of the Federal Reserve System run by their elitist, mostly foreign, handlers. The last thing central banks want is to see PMs, which are real money, endanger their issuance of fiat counterfeit monopoly “money”.
Holmes UNWPX fund is among the highest cost PM mining funds out there. Those costs go into Holmes pockets and that of his employees, so he could care less about those invested in his fund. To a degree that is true of all PM mining funds. Vanguard, by the way, advertises as being a low cost vendor of funds. Visit their website to discover just how high UNWPX costs are and compare them.
The way around fund costs, passed on to the investor, is to look at the portfolios of top performing funds and the top performing PM mining companies in their portfolios. Invest in them, get the advantage of high performance from those high performing PM mining companies and avoid all the costs the funds pass on to their investors. In this way you will outperform the fund and avoid fund costs in doing so.
We are now in an era where most have access to data on every aspect within the investment world. In the past that was only available through the literature provided by brokerage firms, or mail requests to companies of interest. There is no excuse for not making this relatively easy research.
If you realized who represents “the public”, you would be less sanguine about their ability to not be misled. We now have over 100 years of the country being run by the private Federal Reserve Bank. The value the US dollar has lost in that period pretty much represents the same percentage of people that have no understanding of the scam perpetrated on them. That has been assisted by 24-7 propaganda by mass media outlets led from behind the scenes elitist operatives to see to it that “the public” remains unaware of how their prosperity is being stolen from them. Thus it will take a disastrous worldwide economic implosion to wake up the dullards who represent the overwhelming majority of people within populations.
Jefferson was correct when he stated: “If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks…will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered…. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs.”
Through the public school system, this statement by Jefferson has never been emphasized. Thus the wake-up call will require economic disaster. It is interesting that even our first US President was able to be misled by none other than Alexander Hamilton to bring about the first privately run national bank. Aaron Burr performed a great public service, without awareness of having done so. Too bad he couldn’t have lived past 1913 to perform more of the same to Hamilton types of similar objectives. Certainly those who read this who haven’t been thoroughly brainwashed in public schools will understand this.
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