2 trillion loss in revenue for all producers is probably what's heating-up syria as Putin is trying to move price---we will see but war that involves saudis could be interesting
she stopped singing when all the analysts laughed when Pierre said the did need to borrow capital---stock went from $4 to $2 in the blink of an eye--slowly from $2 to cents because the deal has been done--whatever strategy the family had was in play then
beauoin/bombardier family's could just convert "a" shares to "b" shares--the family would still own a huge stake in bbd and I think stock price would soar. I have been saying this for years. The family really hurt and abused "b" shareholders with the sale of recreational products (and should have been sued) butyou can bet they are going to make out very well with the bbd company. Whatever arrangement has been made is done it will be interesting to see in bankruptcy who gets the money---Of course "b" shareholders and probably "a" shareholders also get nothing ---so how is the family going to come out ahead--it has to be in the debt that has been created--somewhere enough of the debt is owned by the family that they will profit from the sale of the companies businesses -- kind of like bain owning a certain percent of brp until years pass and you really see the family owns brp--anyway good luck. hope we guys can find a good law-firm they burned us bad on brp I should have know the tiger just can't change its stripes
don't kid yourself the cseries is more expensive plane -- bbd can not offer same discounts as big two-- cseries is a better plane but it costs more-- fuel prices must go up before airlines will save enough to justify cost.
Guys what the heck is going on with the press? Since when is not getting orders by a competitor put in the headlines? This is some sort of Manipulation and is not honest journalism. Without a doubt for its size the cseries is a vastly superior plane to any -- it is quieter, more fuel efficient, and more operator friendly-- BUT it is more expensive and its justification was the fuel savings would more than offset the higher price. It is an economic decision by United to buy the 737 but the press is portraying the cseries as some sort of lemon which it is not. Right now it is just economics-- the major players see the handwriting on the wall and are discounting their old designed planes and re-engining but this has nothing to do with the design and performance of the cseries it is a superior plane that is too pricey in the current cheap fuel environment. As far as commonality in fleet that has always been there and airlines have bought new planes and will buy new planes (although dc-3 is still a great plane) it is a matter of economics and customer preference. It is totally wrong for press to infer cseries is anything but what it is a miscalculation as to depth and length of fuel price decrease. It is just a matter of time before boeing and airbus build a similar plane but they are going to have to be forced into it via fuel costs.
same thing as bp no valve so well has to be shut-in with relief ---started in oct 2015 and probably will not be shut until march. you talk about stupid and gross negligence installing high pressure turbine to pump natgas in old (1930) abandoned oil well under los angles basin(simi valley,porter ranch,etc) unsealed poor plumbing. although natgas in low in benzene (7ppm) this well is spewing millions of lbs. hey I love natgas and storage is necessary but putting it under los angles with known plumbing problems where is the media--if this had been bp the government would be asking for dudley's extradition and he would be fleeing to russia wouldn't that be a switch.
So where is the media outrage. where is the government suing for gross negligence. the aliso storage has been spewing methane/benzene--folks in porter ranch having nose bleeds and nausea. somewhere I read this was worse than deep water horizon. heck folks this ain't happening offshore in gulf this is los angles county ---- a guess we all knew BP was a patsy compared to exxon(valdez) and now sempra is also going to fight tooth and nail--- I guess I am still hurting from the stock loss and the bad name BP got from spill while others appear to get a free ride.
saudis want to sell part of aramco and russians want to sell part of rosneft and bp shareholders want to sell all of BP---guess people are heeding al gore's warning that oil assets may become stranded
hey blackoutbuzz--you know it gets old to hear how bbd gets government handouts when in truth it is a two way street--the company could have sold trains to the chinese and seeing the problems the Japanese are having with their rj I am sure they could sell cseries both would result in much more money than getting from the partial sales. Grantted family still has control but also Canada stills has a large high tech company.
hey buzz-- do you think air traffic with cuba will need "big" single aisle or will CS work?? Did google and read article seems that delta order was originally 40 then reduced to 20 just wishing CS could get one good order while fuel prices are low. thanks for your thoughts on cuba traffic
innsbrooklad-- this is clueless here you know the one who doesn't understand accounting-- I guess we know why the stock was dropping the business plan of borrowing and selling stock just could not be sustained if shipping could not pay the interest. guess we got taken sorry for both our losses
I am clueless--I agree I have a small amount of TGP and its value has recently dropped 50%. What I am trying to do is determine what is the reason. I yield to your superior knowledge and request some enlightenment--why is this stock falling so fast???? I am too old to go to school and too poor to keep losing money. I bought this stock not expecting capital appreciation but a steady good dividend--- seemed safe but??
I am not sure I understand yahoo posts a earnings of $1.68 and a dividend of $2.80. I guess the company does barrow money and issue more stock but that does seem likely to be gaining ground with the stock at $18 instead of $50. Seems like between borrowing and stock sales they made a lot more than shipping??
guys this stock is in free fall--I am trying to see why--is it that income is crashing or is management borrowing millions to build unloading port in bahrain that reverts back after twenty years--- a stock does not drop like this without a reason---just hoping someone following stock can answer
innsbrooklad--- you are correct but this one sentence in the 3rd quarter report does give pause : Including these items, the Partnership reported net income attributable to the partners, on a GAAP basis, of $7.5 million and $90.6 million for the three months ended September 30, 2015 and 2014, respectively.
What this says is income is well below the $60 million amount of dividend--guess this is whystock is dropping from $40/share to ??
just thinking about all the gallons of gasoline being used and thinking can oil companies go bankrupt even if crude price goes to zero. Well I surely will continue to buy gasoline and if it is $1/gallon or $3/gallon I will buy it so I think oil companies that supply gasoline will not go bankrupt. I remember BP wanting to be just a supplier of crude and getting out of gasoline business--selling Texas City and other refineries, seemed they redid whiting near chicago, I still see gas stations with BP signs so I guess they still sell fuel..I guess what I am saying is gasoline prices seem to track oil downward but there will come a point where is fuel makers and distributors will have to make money because people like me need fuel---so my opinion is although BP made a miscalculation as to what the saudis would do to crude prices they are still miles ahead of just frackers or other oil companies that just supply oil. BP looked a fracking and decided it was not an economical route. Still not convinced selling refineries was a good play.
blackout--you should look at how this benefits the family--not how this benefits the corporation or b shareholders. think about owning ski-doo envinrude can-am lear trains and planes---now think about stock at twenty /share --now think about owning part of trains and part of planes and stock at $1/share. The family now owns BRP and my guess they will own either planes or trains when dust clears but they will cover ownership --smoke and mirrors sorry for b shareholders losses and mine too