You can't compare the length of time needed to order for a HUD to the time you need to order for a complete car. Unless Alik is misinforming us...AGAIN
" the guy says both it's an industry first, and it's a 1/3rd lighter (or was it smaller?) than the old one. How can both of those be true"
By meaning the laser is industry first and is smaller than other systems presently used in other cars which could mean LEDs like in BMW MERCEDES VETTES etc. etc. etc. It doesn't mean their previous old one they were going to install in the 2014 RR.
That could mean a laser HUD is an industry first and is smaller and lighter than other systems used in other cars. Doesn't have to be a laser system. Could mean an led system.
Could it simply be a different opinion than most here for over a decade waiting for MVIS to be successful while MVIS stole 7 out of every 8 shares my kids had? The truth hurts I C.
"Didn't MVIS say something recently-ish about a auto maker going back around to update to a newer engine?"
Alik's way of saying they couldn't sell the first gen (due to no DGLs that met their targets for brightness, efficiency, size and cost IMHO) so we're trying to sell our second gen now with DGLs. In my opinion they still don't have the lasers PRESENTLY. Both SONY and Osram are still developing brighter smaller DGLS PRESENTLY. It could very easily be RR is expecting them to be available like they did with RR's 2014 model. That model deleted their laser HUD after RR said it was going to have it. It could happen the same way again if those DGLs that meet the required targets aren't available yet. RR could also have received vague confirmation from a DGL supplier that they should be available by the time RR needs them. RR could have a backup plan for another HUD. It could be different laser tech. MVIS isn't the only one that can use lasers. We've seen those in the past. Seems we could all be waiting for those DGLs to make the laser picoprojector engine be what OEMs want and can afford and start selling. We simply don't know.
"I hope this is MVIS, because if there's an auto laser HUD that isn't and successfully avoids the patents, that's certainly not a good thing for MVIS stockholders"
There are other techs that can use lasers. The patents are for single mirror scanning and would not cover the other techs. Those are MVIS's competitors. LCOS DLP and others
".AT was very optimistic and said "do the numbers" .Did anybody else get that impression."
He's been optimistic for years...even when he did the RS. You're being played and don't have a clue. Just like Karl played geoffrey.
'Never Never forget that hillerby took sides with Guttag and Anderson!'
You must have a bad memory axel. I agreed with some of what they said and disagreed on others. Both those guys added more in one single post of theirs than what you've added in all your posts.
"Hillerby is a jerk who is not loyal"
You're an idiot if you want investors to be loyal. The more you open your mouth the more foolish you appear.
'Somebody said he was a draft dodger too'
Some of the world's greatest persons were and are anti-war when it's an unjust war. No doubt you'd be off to an unwanted war just to be loyal to the fools who put it on.
''I know the type. They are all over the message boards. They don't work and spend all day stalking people trolling boards 24/7'
Look whose stalking who. If you search all the names posting to this board my name and the insulting names others give me will come up many times more than anyone's. Now why is that? Because I'm the messenger.....and those who are loyal to MVIS, even though they stole 7 out of every 8 shares investors owned, don't like to hear the facts. They'd rather be loyal and not know so they kill the messenger.....not debating the facts but rather with insults and attacks. i'll give you the same challenge I've given many here over the years WITHOUT ONE taking me up on it. I'll put up my record of what I've said and predicted to yours. You start first....what have you said about MVIS that was accurate and factual. Then I'll go.....
You can see how worthless this board has become with 13 recommendations (the one star bandit is at it again) and with posters like our stewie pretending he's another poster jin like he did when got caught red handed when he used another of his IDs to reply to himself with a compliment..... a totally PATHETIC man.
Whose DGLs would Jag use if they are using MVIS's tech? Are they using our GEN 2 engine that uses DGLs? Range Rover deleted their laser HUD on 2014 RR models. If they could have used the 50 mw DGL versions available then and didn't ....why could they use them now? The only ones more powerful than the 50 mw 3.8 mm can are in 5.6mm cans. Jag said their HUD is smaller and a third lighter than previous HUDs.
Whose DGLs will they use? Or will they use DGLs? Could they use another technology with a laser/lasers?
After all your blind (PRESENTLY) PUMPING....I wonder how you'll react IF Jag doesn't use MVIS's tech....or they delete the HUD like they did with their 2014 Range Rover model.
Upset Karl set you up and you fell for it hook line and sinker? Funny ....those who saw the PATTERNS PATTERNS PATTERNS could see it coming. Will MVIS EVER get another order from Pioneer as a followup on their first order if, as you said, "sales are going well"? They sure have been trying to sell those first ordered for A HECK OF A LONG TIME now.
They know there are so many volume traders just looking for the slightest move ....it will move on any rumour you or others start.
WHY do you expect other to answer your questions but IGNORE those to you? HYPOCRITE !!! TYPICAL
"I believe the XE will first be available in the UK in 2015 and then the US in 2016."
I guess you would after getting this email, eh?
"The XE will be unveiled on September 8th, and won't arrive in the US
market until 2016"
That's just a HUD..nothing else.....this is a WHOLE CAR they're introducing. You have to have your supply chain LOCKED in well before two months geoffrey. They won't make the mistake they made with Range Rover who deleted their laser HUD before it went for sale earlier this year.
"the technologies that will be used in the XE have not yet gone into production. "
What Jag meant was ....as the car goes into production....not just the technologies.
from the reply to your email to Jag.... "There will be details about the technologies as they enter production."
Wouldn't they have had to place an order by now? They would also have to have firm supply of DGLs. What DGL would they use if they use MVIS's tech? A Range Rover car was supposed to have a laser HUD in 2014 but at the last minute deleted that option. I think it was because the DGLs weren't available. What DGL could they use? Will the 50mw versions do? So they don't use MVIS's gen 2 with DGLs? Couldn't they have used those 50 mw versions in the Range Rover? Something doesn't add up to MVIS to me. We'll see soon I guess. Is this move up due to the rumours of MVIS in Jags?