Qihoo 360 Technology Co. Ltd Message Board

Refreshing to see someone post the truth about this stock and state facts. I'm getting tired of seeing all the nonsense and the pumping. You are certainly correct. In the unlikely event VHC beats CSCO, they won't get a big verdict to begin with. They will get a modest sum. Secondly, the shorts have it down so far that even a good pop would only get it back to where it was last week. Also, like you say, if they lose, they are finished as a going concern. Excellent, valuable post.

strong, just to make you aware, a VHC win over CSCO is already priced in the stock. You can take that to the bank. That's what makes this such a popular short. There won't be any movement higher if VHC wins and the stock will be cut at least in half if VHC loses. Talk about a no lose situation Those are the kind of trades smart people make.

ok, yet another person who doesn't understand the appeal process. You can appeal that you didn't like the color carpet in the courtroom. Of course, that will be quickly rejected at the District court. However, the next move will be to appeal to the Fed court. Now, here's where the problem comes in. It will take 9-12 months until someone gets the appeal to reject it. Of course, this appeal would be rejected, but where do you think VHC stock will be while it's taking a year to work it's way to the docket for review? You starting to get the picture now?

nick, for some reason, that's the point all the hard core longs are missing. There is absolutely no incentive for AAPL to settle. They have plenty of cash and they can appeal for years and years. I'm not sure why you don't understand that. They know well enough they can probably hold out for 5 years. When it finally comes time to pay, they'll simply negotiate for what they'd have to pay right now anyway. You think VHC is going to push them for 1.5% royalty when AAPL eventually says they'll settle for 1%? Not a chance, VHC will take that figure and run. So, AAPL knows it can wait 5 years to get the same deal they could get today. Why would they even consider settling now? And there again, is why the shorts just keep on adding.

The market is telling us that CSCO has taken a clear and obvious lead in this trial. I expected this all along as CSCO had the advantage of seeing AAPL's missteps. A CSCO win will destroy everything VHC has worked for and will jeopardize any future litigations. This looks like the final act for VHC. Listen to what the market is telling you

It's incomprehensible how stupid many of you are. The stock is hitting news lows every minute today and you're still calling it a buy? LOL. The shorts are making absolute fools of you longs and this is why. You keep yelling it's a buy while it keeps sinking lower by the minute. Wait until AAPL's appeal hits. Can you say "teens"?

Oh really? What about the appeals process? Are you aware that takes a minimum of 9-12 months just to get to the Fed judge's desk for review? You think people are going to buy this junk while it's in appeal by both AAPL and CSCO? The shorts are adding, they certainly aren't worrying.

KL could care less. I believe he's probably shorting against the box and selling you tons of calls. He's making more money that anyone if this is true. I doubt he has any interest in breaking the shorts

pity, no doubt, this is a super short. You nailed it. Like you, once I read ghors message of the trial, I was more convinced than ever that VHC is the best short in the market. Glad to see you agree.

pity, what are you talking about? I couldn't agree more with you that VHC has already lost this case. Chill out, I'm on your side. This stock is as strong a short as you'll ever come across.

pity, I've never read about a massacre worse than this in the courtroom. I mean really, if McCool Smith wants to keep their law firm functional, I'd walk out now to save face. They are obviously being humiliated by the CSCO attorney. Also, remember this, I didn't see ghors even mention the fact that VHC can't or hasn't commercialized Gabriel. It's really an all-out embarrassment at this point for VHC. I think after they lose this case they'll go back to their offices and split up the cash and go home. Also, don't think for a minute the CEO isn't selling shares as this trial goes on. He's got to dump 9 million shares before CSCO is awarded the victory by the jury. I'm sure he's likely selling slowly, but surely as to not cause a selling panic.

pity, there's no question CSCO wins this trial. They're so out in front it's almost embarrassing for VHC. This CSCO win will obviously put VHC out of business. Let's face it, any case they lose will put them out of business. They don't stand a prayer against CSCO because of laches and because the CSCO lawyer has the jury wrapped around his finger. No wonder the shorts are all over this. This may just be the greatest and easiest short since the market was created!

pity, I completely agree with you. VHC doesn't have a leg to stand on. This charade they've been playing is over. CSCO caught them red-handed and will now slam the door on VHC as a surviving company. Watch for an AAPL appeal any day now as CSCO takes full control of this trial.

Did you think the stock would be above or below 35 with the AAPL win, let alone the ruling against AAPL!! I told you it would be heading lower no matter what happened in the courtroom because it was meaningless. It's all about the appeal. Do you still want to argue or just apologize for asking a dumb question? Also, go read about RMBS if you think VHC is going to collect money in the next few years.

lobster, just referring to the years of appeals that are coming. Even Herb Greenburg stated that it's unlikely that VHC will ever see a dime from AAPL. That also rings true for getting money from CSCO. They'll appeal until VHC runs out of money.