We understand the last 3 years has been a rough patch for the FLY shareholder as our shares have appreciated a whooping 0%. Now before you go celebrating at your local watering hole for "hanging in there" with us over that time let us remind you that we are growing not in share price, silly you, but in planes. We realize other lessors consider share price growth a good thing (AYR up 83%, AER up 298%, and AL up 66% in the last 3 years) but we here at FLY leasing couldn't care less about that. In fact we understand the shareholder just wants to be assured the number of planes in the fleet keep growing at 15% , 20% or heck even 100% (if we could we would) per annum (thats means year for you yankees across the pond).
Now do we have a plan to change this dismal price action? Of course, we could buy back these shares from the market at a 30% discount to book basically assuring the shareholder an accretive purchase. But no we here at BBAM want to make sure we can squeeze every oz of a mid teen return by pruchasing more and more planes so we can line our own pockets more and who really wants 40-50% returns from buying stock anyway? BORING! Conflict of interest you say? I just say GROWTH GROWTH GROWTH to that!!! (Its gonna work, eventually I just know it!!!)
Now will these purchases mean more divies for our shareholders? Probably not, even after we have doubled cash flows over the last 4 years most of this extra cash is gonna go where it belongs, management's pockets. This aint no charity yo! Brother got to get paid!!!
Also we here at BBAM want you the shareholder to know that you exist because we let you. We let us grace your presence every 90 days with a "we know better than you" conference call just to let you know where you stand with us, and that is nowhere. And that is exactly where we like you: tied up in the middle of the Sahara Desert with no water.
Colm and Co.
Mastermind is right on. There is no great demand for this stock because the market hates the external management team. Colm and company would care less about where the stock trades as long as they keep growing and growing "for growth's sake" of course. You don't hear Colm quibble anymore about discount to book anymore do you? NOPE. 'Cause he dont care. Did you hear these guys' attitude when asked questions about a share buyback that they never use? Or if they want to increase the divy? All you hear PURE SPITE for questioning their judgement: "We think a 8% yeild is good enough." and "they [the shareholders] can buy back their own damn stock if they want with this great divy we give out." This management team needs to be put in their place and this management contract can't expire soon enough. Too much value here for me to move on sub 20 though.
for as good as they have performed fundamentally, its a disgrace that we have been basically flat for the last 4 years. For the last 4 years we should have been buying back shares and not doing secondaries @ 14.00. We would be over 20 / share now if we just grew organically. Rest assured that the lack of stock price performance is the conflict of interest of the exterior management model. They benefit too much to grow the company at any cost and NOT on a per share basis. Deeply troubled.
From the Earnings Release:
Global Ship Lease owns 18 vessels with a total capacity of 74,412 TEU and an average age, weighted by TEU capacity, at October 28, 2014 of 10.6 years. All 18 vessels are currently fixed on time charters, 15 of which are with CMA CGM. The average remaining term of the charters is 5.7 years or 6.5 years on a weighted basis.
Ave age of 10.6 years with an useful life of 25-30 years. So there is still some meat on the bone.
That said the value of our fleet is our charters. We valued the OOCL Tianjin at 55 mil with 40 mil of contracted revenue. Well we have about 900 mil of contracted revenues outstanding for our fleet. Wouldn't it be safe to value the fleet at least at 900mil? 900 mil - 420 debt = 480 - 35 pref equity = 445 common equity value. $9.36 / share.
I look at it this way: the market looked at the re-fi as pretty sh#tty (And the 10% rate we got was sh*tty). It looked at the pref exchange as a non issue. Ok fine how many "bad surprises" can we really have in the next 3 years? There is no gun to our head to refi and really revenues can only go up. Buy 1 or 2 ships here or there and our ebitda is back over 100m a year. That would be a good surprise. Establish dividend? = another good surprise.
to me the latest ship purchase mitigates the higher bond interest rate than the previous credit facility. Also with the freed up cash flow of the new bonds we have the capacity to buy 1 or 2 more ships (with charters) over the next year which is a net plus for cash flow as well.
cmon davis you're slipping someone has to get the news out:
How bout that pipeline that ur boy odumbo wont approve? how many jobs lost there u nut job?
problem is that you have a management team that will throw shareholders under the bus because they think its fun to issue shares at 1.09 and it buys them time to continue at their jobs. They spit on you the shareholder. How does that feel?
Ill tell you what else is messed up and that is the price of AGNC. Remember when they had PURE panic over long term interest rates rising a year ago and TLT went crashing and so did the price of AGNC? Well today we have TLT back over the 120.00 high of last year and AGNC is still languishing around 22 a share. WOW talk about inconsistency. This market is so #$%$ you'd think Obama was running it.
I guess I just don't see the same risks. We have over 900 million of contracted revenue coming in and that is before the newest ship purchase. With over 7 years left avg on the charters we got plenty of buffer to acquire more ships and pay down some debt. That said the price action here has been brutal and you would think that half our ship just got sunk.