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horacebello 36 posts  |  Last Activity: Aug 20, 2014 6:10 PM Member since: May 1, 2009
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  • Reply to

    Started today ...

    by horacebello Aug 20, 2014 6:04 PM
    horacebello horacebello Aug 20, 2014 6:10 PM Flag

    Expecting more discount for the eurozone.
    In this way my best ideas walk by IRE closer $14 and NBG doing bottom again and again @ $ 3
    (both prices deserves a six numbers bet)


  • horacebello by horacebello Aug 20, 2014 6:04 PM Flag

    ..buying SPOT Lady Silver below $ 19,45 and 'll continue doing that.
    She must return home and think it's a good time for her.

    (couldn't revised SLV chart)

  • Reply to

    Hola, Old friends...

    by naturalpastime Aug 19, 2014 6:58 PM
    horacebello horacebello Aug 20, 2014 5:55 PM Flag

    ...for River and all Master Old grand kids

    Default Hola

  • Reply to

    Hola, Old friends...

    by naturalpastime Aug 19, 2014 6:58 PM
    horacebello horacebello Aug 20, 2014 5:54 PM Flag

    Old & Nat:

    Too hard and will continue in the same way.
    Tired of hearing and reading that crisis means opportunity and we would benefit from them.
    Our country has lived in crisis throughout ALL my working life and just the incredible good fortune of having done a lot of it outside our borders.

    Master Gusto suggested that my genetic condition was a "dalib one" and accepted that possibility.
    But really maintaining my "conservative anarchist "position that could be incomprehensible to Americans.

    Only those who live in a terrible mess love the peace and balance that comes with the conservatism.
    Only those who love freedom and imagination without violence intend to hold the best of the healthy anarchism.

    Then yesterday had to listen like a sick thief woman voted by more than half of Argentinians and right now believing her even more than 25%.
    The decline can't be more accelerated here.
    We are 42 million and 13 million receiving state subsidy for doing nothing but to vote the sick populism that has governed destroying the most beautiful country with impunity.

    Of course i don't want to pay anything to Mr Singer .
    But to do that would never use gold watches or never had been robbed more than 7 billion dollars during the last ten years as did this sick woman and her late husband.
    They are miserable and hopefully can see them in a jail someday. Too many people should go to jail here.

    Why should keep my savings overseas?
    Because when i had within our border were stolen many times.
    While hating all kind of excuses having no other explanation.
    Must live anarchically and should get decent jobs for a dozen families to eat and live comfortably.
    A dozen useful guys that can solve machines and assemblies of all types.

    And also must smile for peace to remember Lennon.
    Must continue in anarchism. Born but not sure of dying here.
    Asking myself this #$%$ because conservatives don't smile too much in America or Europe.

    Goodnight Masters.
    The largest kiss ....

  • Reply to

    Best to Sr. Hola and Argentina.

    by oldfolks95610 Aug 3, 2014 5:48 PM
    horacebello horacebello Aug 8, 2014 1:03 PM Flag

    Dear Masters Old and Natural:

    Our hard experience in incredible.
    Waiting this Friday or Monday USD 50 K in the account in name of for the third electric LINDE forklift.
    Nobody can imports. No spare parts. So...we continue buying insurance merchandise, repairing and selling closer the new price!!!

    In the other side...time to follow lady Silver. Entry point @ 19,5 (lower is better entry anyway: all the last days/weeks following her to buy six numbers..or more...)


    posting this weekend. Mr Market is against us because Ms Yellen has to take some measures


  • horacebello horacebello Aug 6, 2014 8:43 AM Flag

    The new project is a monster one and the sqm means intrinsically a new city

  • Reply to

    Glad sold the stock

    by cvdpro Aug 1, 2014 5:37 PM
    horacebello horacebello Aug 1, 2014 10:09 PM Flag

    our banking system"paying more or less 20% in pesos: means below or closer half inflation target.
    And nobody taking credits from them
    Just stopping all the projects, investments..everything...
    Nobody spending a buck
    We have to wait a new administration, another 15 months ahead...
    Hard to survive but at the same time we are the best example how to do the worst remaining alive.
    Predicting unrest here.

    Time to follow our bonds if they pay -as the Ukrainian or Bank Spirito Santo bonds- closer 20%.
    The best around 2024 maturity..the middle term: never fail this policy


  • Reply to

    Glad sold the stock

    by cvdpro Aug 1, 2014 5:37 PM
    horacebello horacebello Aug 1, 2014 9:57 PM Flag

    you should try buying Argentine bonds.
    There are more than two paying above 16% annually in USD.
    Keep this in mind.
    It's an excellent idea to buy debt of a paralyzed country like mine with an inflation above 35%.

    Now imagine the poor reality of the Chinese growing at least 7% while their american bonds giving them a free 2% ...

    Have a good weekend cvdpro.
    Try to think a bit more before posting.
    The world isn't just America.

    You also may default your debt or not to pay attention the American justice.
    Or both.

    The best for you and yours

    South Cosmic Dust

  • Reply to

    Janet, Janet please be quiet.

    by oldfolks95610 Jul 15, 2014 12:42 PM
    horacebello horacebello Jul 17, 2014 12:30 PM Flag


    you know the southern inclination to call FED boss at least one per month.
    So reading every line, every topic, each word, to understand all the arguments there.
    (Impossible to know the comments within the ECB or Russian central bank ... )

    However couldn't talk Yellen for many reasons.
    (A week ago, part of her neighborhood was concerned about her security guards ... )

    Ben was and is much more discreet.
    Ms Yellen did a wrong "start up" with her speech about rising rates.

    Nothing more convenient to look for the current speeches and Ben views @ several universities.

    Still, in your place, should sleep worried after her comment.


  • Reply to

    I'm in

    by lucky_lenny_1964 Jul 16, 2014 12:47 PM
    horacebello horacebello Jul 16, 2014 6:10 PM Flag


    TAO (ETF) is the reference and already up nearly 5% YTD; so preferring to avoid the media talking about the housing bubble that could diminish this stock price.

    And fully agree with your view about the greatest concentration everywhere. "ll remain the largest player but "the south" having a nice doubt BEFORE the Real State concentration:
    Has actually completed the synthesis of the banking system?
    it's really over this game?
    Y or N

    Y: talks about a real state bubble possibility during the coming twenty years (not now)
    N: means we 've to see less banks BEFORE the real state...bubble..

    For the moment land's prices in China has NO discount: that happens just before the "bubble"bursts . And the current cheaper sqm -in percentage- are ridiculous in some cities.

    Posting from an economically crippled country where we are selling (real state) less than 20% compared with 7 years back and no one has broken.
    Posting from a broken country lowering its GDP in the last three years and the apartments don't lower their price more than 3%. No selling and NO discount. Just stopping the buildings waiting for a better administration and nothing more.

    Because of these simple comparisons can assure we'll not see a Chinese Real State bursting in -at least- the next ten years.
    XIN must earn less money doing their developments using other people's money.
    The same banks and largest developers worldwide do.


  • Reply to

    Must be playing soccer (football)

    by oldfolks95610 Jul 7, 2014 3:43 PM
    horacebello horacebello Jul 15, 2014 11:37 AM Flag

    OK. Agree to take some ideas from Capt #$%$ there but remaining here for a quiet board.


  • Reply to

    Must be playing soccer (football)

    by oldfolks95610 Jul 7, 2014 3:43 PM
    horacebello horacebello Jul 14, 2014 12:15 PM Flag

    BES.LS to follow also broken Banco Espirito Santo - Lisbon

    No doubt prefering their bonds than their stock. If portuguese don´t pay Bradesco (BBD) should do that.


  • Reply to

    Must be playing soccer (football)

    by oldfolks95610 Jul 7, 2014 3:43 PM
    horacebello horacebello Jul 14, 2014 7:36 AM Flag

    YEP dear master

    all was soccer the last ten days and sad final for us

    nothing to say. No excuses. Germany was all time best team
    They are investing above 200 millions euro per year in soccer schools around all their country in the last 15 years...
    all german boys playing soccer using the same "method"...
    and now???
    and better not to think about our future..
    our "method" is a non existent one
    our "method" is ..a few natural miracles happening again and again
    We already had the incredible luck of Maradona and Messi but he can,t continue running as his 22

    Our successes are exactly the spontaneity of one or two miracles

    No infrastructure, absolutely nothing in a country dominated by infamous populist,without using the fate of a minuscule group of people who love their sport and often practicingt as the only form of social improvement.

    Restarting southern post


    the best idea this weekend are Bank Spirito Santo bonds (Portugal)
    It´s a broken bank but 20% of their stake means BRADESCO BANK BRASIL and ´ll never happen (the bankrupcy)

    Their bonds paying above 20% !!! right now
    Enrtry point !!!


  • ...and no care about our default, nor bonds or everything closer your NY court

    Soccer world cup and the other topics must wait.

    (paralyzed Argentina)

  • Reply to

    XCO going low.

    by oldfolks95610 Jun 23, 2014 3:16 PM
    horacebello horacebello Jun 23, 2014 5:07 PM Flag

    checking it
    (while repairing Philips mammography)

  • Reply to

    since January 2013 the S&P500 has advanced 35%...

    by marcino3000 Jun 23, 2014 10:26 AM
    horacebello horacebello Jun 23, 2014 5:01 PM Flag

    more or less 30 days ago, posted @ LZAGY recommending NBG.
    JPM has a lot of them.

    (also paid my debt with White suggesting him to buy Greece here)

  • Reply to

    Nice day for now.

    by oldfolks95610 Jun 20, 2014 4:05 PM
    horacebello horacebello Jun 23, 2014 10:53 AM Flag

    Dear Master:

    sold 2,5K KITE @ $30 minus fees closer 15% profit.
    Keeping 500 for the longest run.


  • Reply to

    Killer cells

    by oldfolks95610 Jun 16, 2014 11:12 PM
    horacebello horacebello Jun 20, 2014 11:27 AM Flag

    Dear Master:
    Bought 3K @ USD 26

  • Reply to

    Metals today

    by oldfolks95610 Jun 19, 2014 7:11 PM
    horacebello horacebello Jun 20, 2014 11:07 AM Flag

    Dear Master:
    During a complete and large weekend check all main chart metals and each of their Fibo numbers.
    Really was a pleasant surprise and trusting them towards the end of this year (2014).

    Remaining my pain after losing the large rise in Lady Silver but was able to recover a good margin (closer 20%) using sell phys bossgold clauses @ $ 1,635 during 15 months: Somebody executed during 2013 so my bank had to executed the southern order to return me the same qty @ 1320

    SUMMARY for master Mysman:
    Thinking Lady Silver would return below $ 19 again during coming months. There my entry point to keep a long pos again.
    This lady is always under my radar and deserve a decent bet with big numbers according her usual hysteria


  • Reply to

    Killer cells

    by oldfolks95610 Jun 16, 2014 11:12 PM
    horacebello horacebello Jun 20, 2014 10:39 AM Flag

    God bless these people.
    'll buy this IPO just to support the effort.
    Doesn't matter the up and down of the market in these topics.
    Buy order 3K shares.

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