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hudget 352 posts  |  Last Activity: Apr 18, 2014 12:36 PM Member since: Oct 27, 2000
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  • from "distributors" to "members" LOL they continue to try to wiggle and squirm their way through this. They are experts at obfuscation and cover up. After all they have been doing it for over 30 years. Word Smiths of the highest order. But one can bet that they will find a way to continue to con these now called "members" into signing up primarily for the rights to "sell other memberships" thus keeping the reasons alive to join the cult.

  • just to work up with all the press releases and responses regarding all the investigations that are being conducted. LOL

  • Reply to

    Herbalife issues response...........

    by mr_viper_2010 Apr 17, 2014 3:51 PM
    hudget hudget Apr 17, 2014 3:55 PM Flag

    "We look forward to working with the Illinois Attorney General's office to resolve the consumer complaints it has received" WHAT? I thought nobody ever complained about this company? I thought they simply slithered away after losing several hundred to several thousand pursing the business opportunity.

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    Gordito I am impressed

    by hudget Apr 17, 2014 3:38 PM
    hudget hudget Apr 17, 2014 3:52 PM Flag

    Don't know. He could be one of the big dogs in the windy city? If so, I thought I was kidding about the Illinois AG talking to him but I guess that could be a real possibility if he has that much of the market under his wing. Aw he will just give her the ole HLF song and dance routine filled with nice stories about "just doing what's best for my peeps" and "just trying to help people with their nutritional needs". Her staff will probably say, "that's nice but lets get back to this little recruiting thingy dingy, ok". God, I hope he wasn't involved in that other high level recruiting, selling of leads, etc. that HLF corporate put a stop to after winking at it for years?

  • just read in HLF statement that there are 15000 members in Illinois. You personally have almost 7% of them in your down line. that must make you a honcho in the land of lincoln, no?

  • hudget hudget Apr 17, 2014 3:35 PM Flag

    Interesting about the 1000 member down line which started off as 1000 recruits more or less all still around indicating close to 100% retention, until a clarification came through. that must put him in the presidents club or one of those top money making positions in the cult. But Gordito also said numbers have been stable, meaning flat in his down line for the last 4-5 years. Now that does not sound like robust growth to me. If you have 1000 recruiters out there pounding the street, opening recruiting centers, etc. one ought to see some growth. sounds like a lot of churning especially with the opening of new recruitment centers all over Chicago land. How many total recruits do you think Gordito and his gang in Chicago have recruited over the last 10 years to keep 1000 on board at this time? It has to be BIG.

  • hudget hudget Apr 17, 2014 3:25 PM Flag

    :) I hear she has the flu and has been down for a few days, no pun intended. Or maybe it is not the flu, maybe she just consumed some of the formula uno and has the back door trots!

  • hudget hudget Apr 17, 2014 3:20 PM Flag

    Yea, he kept inviting me to one of his recruiting centers which I have, of course, declined. but if worse comes to worst and he is forced to put on the stripped pajamas, I might swing by for a little chat. I think he is salvageable once he gets removed from the cult influence.

  • But in the world of HLF longs, it is just another day of whistling past the graveyard. LOL Oh well, btw Gordito I bet the Illinois AG might want to talk to you and your buddies up there in Chicago Land. Is that why you been laying low? Got advance word or something?

  • that is being investigated by so many regulatory and legal entities. LOL that must be really comforting to the longs on this thread. But they will CLAIM it is all because Ackman has paid them off. LOL, as if a few thousand bucks from a rich hedge fund manager could put all these wheels in motion, especially when he is being tremendously outspent by the HLF machine. The insiders in this travesty might be rats, but even a rat will fight when cornered. And looks to me like the regulators have these rats pretty well cornered. The way these rats fight is they are spending shareholder money at unprecedented pace trying to save their skins. Seems the innocent could simply present the truth and be done with it.

  • are really starting to show deep anger. Calling people names, repeating things that are demonstrably untrue, ignoring information that is factual. I guess it is simply a sign of desperation and frustration. Not only are they supporting a money transfer scheme that skims thousands of dollars from millions of people conned into becoming distributors each year, but they are LOSING MONEY this year doing that. It just goes to show that crime does not pay in the long run!

  • appear to me to be prime candidates for working at HLF (actually I suspect most already are) based simply on their ability to misrepresent facts and keep repeating their stories over and over again even after being proven wrong. Too funny.

  • hudget by hudget Apr 16, 2014 11:58 AM Flag

    DOJ, FTC and other regulators are hot on the trail of this scheme. They are most likely zeroing in on the recruiting methods of top distributors with the tacit approval of corporate on why they recruit people as distributors, who simply want to be discount customers but talk them into signing up as "distributors". Actually the way it works is they entice them with the money making scheme and then when they fail, as almost all do, THEN they claim they were just discount buyers. LOL that is like me going into Costco and trying to buy a membership to get the discounts, and they insist I open up a Costco myself, or start selling the products and recruiting other people just to qualify as a discount customer.. LOL ridiculous. Costco knows the difference between customers and distributor/salespeople. HLF is soon to be taught a lesson in this difference also. Bank on it.

  • Reply to

    the question that terrifies HLF and Gordito

    by hudget Apr 15, 2014 4:32 PM
    hudget hudget Apr 15, 2014 5:29 PM Flag

    I hated to stoop to your level and engage in childish none sense, but I had to demonstrate that when challenged directly to your baseless accusations, you can show no proof because no proof exists. You simply tell stories without merit. First you call me a LIAR with a specific example, which I disprove, then you try to change your story and call me a hypocrite, which also disproves your first claim. Too funny. Now that I have shown definitively you are an ignoramus and a prevaricator, I am done with you. LOL

  • Reply to

    the question that terrifies HLF and Gordito

    by hudget Apr 15, 2014 4:32 PM
    hudget hudget Apr 15, 2014 5:00 PM Flag

    I normally simply ignore your ignorant remarks but this one is so easy I have to respond. You said "Why don't you tell us how you have never been long the stock like you said yesterday" You see I never said those words. In fact, i sarcastically said I made millions by being long! Show me where I said yesterday (simple search just one day) that I have never been long the stock, or simply admit you don't have a clue and make stuff up to get attention. LOL

  • Question for Gordito
    as the resident expert HLF distributor. If you come across an individual that has NO INTEREST in becoming a distributor would you sell him/her product at 25% off? Or would you make them sign up and pay to become a distributor to get the 25% off? Or would you insist they pay full SRP unless they sign up as a distributor?

  • Reply to

    Lies lies lies hlf pumps the lies

    by chrismihalick Apr 15, 2014 3:26 PM
    hudget hudget Apr 15, 2014 3:49 PM Flag

    Gordito, what are you afraid of? do you think I am trying to trap you with my question? I can not trap you if you have nothing to hide. In spite of my fervent belief that HLF is a money transfer scheme, I am open to new information.

  • made up of their own lies, and attempts to change the story constantly to suit their purpose in the moment. Are they "discount customers" or are they "salespeople" or are they recruiters of other recruiters? Are the tactics and stories used to lure in new salespeople/discount customers/recruiters disclosing truth or shameless lies and misrepresentations in an attempt to lure the unsuspecting? Is ackmans research accurate about the scam going on in China, which is HLF fastest growing market? I am sure that is what the regulators, the legal authorities, and the AG's are closing in on. Fun to watch and profitable too if one can pick the right side. Just ask Flutie. I am always right. Long at the right time and short at the right time. LOL

  • that Gordito is not in favor of transparency and truth. Apparently, he thinks the truth will hurt him or HLF's cause. The truth should set you free. The truth should crush the shorts. Unless, you have something to hide?

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    by dip_199 Apr 15, 2014 2:44 PM
    hudget hudget Apr 15, 2014 2:51 PM Flag

    If you are a true believer then the shorts are your best friend. After all, was it not Ackman who drove the price down to very attractive levels a year and a half ago. And if shorts are manipulating the stock price now, and holding it down artificially, then you should be loading up on the long side and giving thanks to them. The only losers are the weak hands. Look at Icahn, he is now singing Ackmans praises as the one allowing him to feast at the table and get rich with this undervalued equity.

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