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hudget 226 posts  |  Last Activity: Sep 26, 2014 11:13 AM Member since: Oct 27, 2000
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  • as HLF shares continue to make new 52 week lows. And Flutie continues to LIE. And Gordito continues to con new distributors although with more difficulty each day. In other words, business as usual in herballand. LOL

  • hudget hudget Sep 22, 2014 9:53 AM Flag

    Flutie says about Ackman: " he has admitted to spending $50 million on bribes and manipulating social media." So, Flutie who is the LIAR here? You know Ackman NEVER said that, so just admit you make stuff up to suit your propaganda and spin.

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    imo. for what that is worth

    by muench.john Sep 20, 2014 6:10 PM
    hudget hudget Sep 21, 2014 10:31 AM Flag

    The lesson that is needed to be learned had NOTHING to do with a hedge fund manager. The lesson to be learned is to AVOID fraudulent companies that use DECEPTION as their basic marketing plan. If you have not learned that then you have not learned your lesson yet.

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    I guess you can say Ackman was right ....

    by mikekov2003 Sep 19, 2014 1:22 PM
    hudget hudget Sep 20, 2014 6:50 PM Flag

    Facts are facts and you are caught once again with an absolute lie as I and others have pointed out above. You just make things up to suit your story and you spin. You are total FRAUD. You really get mad when caught in your lies don't you!!

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    I guess you can say Ackman was right ....

    by mikekov2003 Sep 19, 2014 1:22 PM
    hudget hudget Sep 19, 2014 6:47 PM Flag

    Flutie says about Ackman: " he has admitted to spending $50 million on bribes and manipulating social media." Once again, Flutie is caught in an OUTRIGHT LIE. He has NO RESPECT for the truth. He is a total fraud.

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    Flutemeister LOGIC

    by hudget Sep 19, 2014 10:20 AM
    hudget hudget Sep 19, 2014 12:09 PM Flag

    thanks for the response flutie. Why did you decide to use rocko ID to respond? too embarrassed to answer with your flutie ID?

  • according to the board idiot, I was LONG the stock as it was going from low 30's to high 70's, then shorting it from high 70's to now. Therefore I am a hypocrite and have NO CREDIBILITY. LOL First of all he is WRONG and KNOWS IT which makes him a FRAUD and a LIAR by taking my sarcastic posts out of context, and secondly IF HE WAS right, I would call that GREAT TRADING. But he has his fun calling people names and telling outright lies and half truths so will just leave it at that. Obviously, HLF management is even incompetent in picking their board shills to represent them on this thread.

  • during a great bull market they have picked one equity that has done NOTHING for the last two years. And in the last year, and this year to date, the stock they picked to short has gone down big time as one of the biggest losers out there. Such idiots to pick a stock that is heading south during a general bull market. How could shorts be so stupid? Longs on the other hand, unless they picked up this equity right at the lows around end of 2012 beginning of 2013 are hurting. They are so smart to have picked a loser when almost any other equity or the S&P in general would have made them good money. And even if they were lucky enough to pick up some shares in the high 20's to 30's even those will SOON BE UNDER WATER. All that money left on the table. LOL

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    Quick question . . .

    by kravin_somhead Sep 18, 2014 2:51 PM
    hudget hudget Sep 18, 2014 2:57 PM Flag

    No, the processed powder is that good. It may seem like a generic commodity cheap protein powder on the surface, but it really has "magical properties" that cure most diseases, cause people to lose massive amounts of weight, and make multi millionaires out of ordinary people overnight. How do I know this? I have listened to some of the distributor presentations and they would not fib would they? LOL

  • if NOT for the false business opportunity conning in millions each year seeking profits that will never happen for 99% of them? Answer: Not enough to keep the doors open. Therefore, when the FTC cracks down on the FALSE BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY, they in effect, put this money transfer scheme out of business. BOOM.

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    downfall of the short sellers

    by fundamentals_win_out Sep 17, 2014 12:34 AM
    hudget hudget Sep 17, 2014 2:51 PM Flag

    You lie and you misrepresent. You know you lie by omission, by commission, by taking things out of context.. FRAUD. And best of all, you are tied to a losing pyramid scheme fraud. Too bad you don't have any REAL money invested as that would really be JUSTICE as this scheme collapses. LOL

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    downfall of the short sellers

    by fundamentals_win_out Sep 17, 2014 12:34 AM
    hudget hudget Sep 17, 2014 11:56 AM Flag

    That is the M.O. of the flutemeister. Take a partial sentence, or part of the story, half truths, misinterpreted data, put it in someplace totally out of context, and use that ONLY as the basis for his assertions. Then claim he is "telling the truth". LOL Just like his MASTER HLF, he is a huge FRAUD building his story on DECEPTION.

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    Icahn is up about 15-20%

    by hudget Sep 17, 2014 10:50 AM
    hudget hudget Sep 17, 2014 11:52 AM Flag

    His involvement is worth at least 20-25% in the stock price. Without him easily mid 30's in a heartbeat. That is also a big part of his problem and the trap that HLF put him in. I would imagine even Uncle Carl has NO EXPERIENCE investing in, working with or advocating for a product based pyramid scheme with a fraudulent business opportunity sold to millions each year around the world as he has with HLF. LOL

  • which is WAY DOWN from his gains earlier this year in this turkey. And the trend is NOT his friend. His problem is how to extract himself from this potential disaster without getting hit with numerous fiduciary liability law suits. His board representation is a BIG PROBLEM for him. The 120 million gain could turn into big loss in a hurry and that is not counting his potential liability for aiding and abetting this sham. that could run into the hundreds of millions minuimum imo. Is it possible Carl the Great has been suckered into this scheme as deeply and as deftly as a newly recruited HLF distributor by this CON MACHINE? That will be a great one for the history books!!

  • hudget hudget Sep 9, 2014 4:17 PM Flag

    I will answer the points you brought up. the product is a non differentiated commodity readily available anywhere for a lot less. The income potential is NIL for 99% of the people who sign up regardless of how hard they work and almost everyone who signs on as a distributor loses money. Ackman is very happy and has handily outperformed the S&P and other hedgies since opening PSQ 11 years ago and btw taking on lower risk. Lately HLF has contributed nicely to his gains and will prove to be a big winner for him imo. The company has a fraudulent marketing scheme that is being looked into by the FTC and other regulators and most likely will result in significant changes putting even more down ward pressure on the stock price.

  • she may not be able to handle the curves at this speed. What curves? Stiritz exit. icahn exit. FTC sanctions. poor earnings. cash flow squeeze. So many curves coming up for FRAUD TRAIN HLF, and she has a full head of stream on the southern track.

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    Buyback accomplished one thing

    by hudget Sep 9, 2014 2:22 PM
    hudget hudget Sep 9, 2014 2:29 PM Flag

    the company has no DEBT? Rad some financials? LOL I rad the financials and they aint pretty. And the debt is plenty!! the balance sheet has NEGATIVE TANGIBLE NET WORTH BIG TIME. And that is giving them credit for the cash that is all tied up in Venezuela at exchange rates way higher than they can actually obtain. No wonder the longs are getting their behinds handed to them with this type of analysis behind their investment.

  • it is rewarding to see the stock price get hammered. Mr. market seems to have finally figured out what this company is all about and does not like it.

  • massive debt and higher interest payments. Cash tied up in over sees accounts and unavailable to pay the bills. Cash flow struggling. And that is during the good times. What happens when the kaka hits the proverbial fan as revenues and profits really start to evaporate?

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