Fri, Aug 22, 2014, 4:21 AM EDT - U.S. Markets open in 5 hrs 9 mins


% | $
Quotes you view appear here for quick access.

iShares Silver Trust Message Board

idealcarpentry 335 posts  |  Last Activity: 4 hours ago Member since: Nov 28, 2008
SortNewest  |  Oldest  |  Highest Rated Expand all messages
  • Is more and more people leaving the paper game { Which is happening , Evident with the volume } { And more and more people stacking real silver. } Also evidence with record sales year after year. Look at what we know.

    We have seen premiums go up a lot in the silver market. We have seen delays. We have seen record sales... And now let me clue you into something... This was all coming from less then 1 % of the population coming in and stacking. Imagine what will happen as our numbers grow... Like I said . The wild card that will eventually cripple the paper game is the stackers... So tell a friend and so on and so on... Paper is out and real is in...

    And the cheaper it gets the easier it is to buy more of the supply so really you should be thanking the paper game because they are making it easier for us stackers.. In the end they will cause their own down fall..

    So brush aside all the BS from the short clowns who say ERRR Silver is Rancid ERRR. Our future will shine as their paper will go up in flames or better put down the toilet ...

  • idealcarpentry idealcarpentry 5 hours ago Flag

    PS. Who's to say the miners even though are showing a lose , Aren't getting some sort of PAY OFF on the side with a cash brief case so they can continue to mine ? Never think they won't be that shady.

  • idealcarpentry idealcarpentry 5 hours ago Flag

    Common, It might be that the silver market is manipulated to the down side but thats because of only one MAIN REASON why they can do this.. Because the demand for real silver can still be met.

    Forget about the paper game for one second. Yes Obviously all those paper contracts can't be met but what about the real silver market ? As long as they can meet demand then they can continue this Manipulating in the paper game... So either Stackers will have to buy up all reserves were the demand out paces the supply or Industrial needs starts to do so.

    In the past and even now we are slowly seeing signs like Apple having to wait with product . Premiums going up and delays . But as of right now they seem to be back on track with the demand .

    So either don't worry about the price dropping and continue to avg your stack or stop and wait for the same fools to go the other way with the manipulating. Personally I think in this silver market they are stuck now to the short side paper game so they have to continue with it until it blows up in their faces.

    Another factor to think of is the mining industry ...They can't continue to mine at a loss. Especially the silver miners. There costs can't be hidden to other metals like the other miners who mine for other metals and silver is just a so called bi product.

    Myself I am fine with all this because I look at one more picture. 1 Billion Oz per year .. How long can they continue to get that from the planet ? And how long can they afford to keep this low ? Recycling which now we count on in the supply side , dropped by 24 % . OUCH . This year it will be even worse.

  • idealcarpentry idealcarpentry 11 hours ago Flag

    You are funny... Now Wombat , Perhaps you can let me know exactly when you and your so called elite plan to set new lows ? Its not a tuff question... In fact you aren't even far away from it. So when exactly can you make it happen ? Im placing bets so it would be appreciated .. Thanks in advance...

  • Reply to

    PSLV was 22 in 2011......

    by kored35 Jun 19, 2014 12:45 PM
    idealcarpentry idealcarpentry 12 hours ago Flag

    Just added about 3k shares today. ..

  • Im still waiting... Whats this , the forth try at breaking to new lows ? Come on China Doll you and your elite buddies need to work harder....

  • idealcarpentry idealcarpentry Aug 20, 2014 5:50 PM Flag

    Very true ... So what this world most likely will experience again is another GREAT DEPRESSION... Only difference is this time around will be much worse then the first one. Compounding math comes into play and the fact that todays man is much more of a beast then ever before and we have more weapons in which to kill each other with... But who knows , We might not even get that far to experience our own violence. The chain reaction of what we are doing to this plant might just beat us to the punch.

  • idealcarpentry idealcarpentry Aug 20, 2014 5:44 PM Flag

    Stumble makes a good point. If you invested that paper into say apple stock over the last 20 years you have done very well for yourself. But stumble , The same can be said say for ca real estate which is a hard asset . So both examples can make money. I give you props because you have always said for people to be well diversified . I think the main thing though that Skarry is trying to say is that all that we know is about to come to an end game and the only thing that will be left standing will be these hard assets... This maybe true but then again maybe not... Well not just yet anyways. I myself have always been surprised at just how big these bubbles can get to before blowing up in our faces...

    Myself I am in Skarries corner right now in the though to era in the side of over protection because first I can and second I think we are much closer to the end game then we are further away from it ... Do I know how long that will be ? Hell No .. But I can wait it out and hope it never even comes. Giving Assets to your family you are dead and gone isn't a bad thing anyways is it ? Better then giving them your debt right ? Oh wait , isn't that the job of the gubments ?

  • If you aren't you should be paying close attention to it... Eventually you will be seeing the same volume as whats happening over at PSLV ... PSLV is showing its true volume were as SLV is all Algorithm computer trades . Keeps coming down the more people realize and wake up to the fact that xlv is nothing more then a SCAM....

  • Reply to


    by faresrosario Aug 19, 2014 9:15 PM
    idealcarpentry idealcarpentry Aug 20, 2014 4:20 PM Flag

    I agree that Manipulating is done both ways. 100% .. That is why I buy as its going down... I have no problem waiting... I know when they decide to turn the fix the other way around it will be more because they are forced to do so.... Right now it seems the world is pushing 1 bil oz of silver per year... That might seem like a lot but it will need to do more as the world continues not only to grow but finds more uses for silver. Then there is the wild card AKA Stackers... This represents very small number yet its a very large number now in percentages of how much of the silver is going towards stackers... Just one coin alone is now in the 40 mil mark ... This wild card factor is only going to grow and get much worse. Now is suggesting to others to buy silver a form of manipulation ? I don't think so at all.. I look at it as protection / Hedging. I have always preached to others to buy responsibly and not with dollars they will need anytime soon. Avg in is always best.

    As for whats happening in the silver world well there are quit a few signs showing whats coming but I already posted this many times and don't care to go over them again... I myself am very thankful for what is going on and cheap silver... Personally I hope Chinaclown will be right and they some how can manage getting silver down to 8 dollars. For me its a win win situation.... I have nothing against China clown other then never giving proof as to why silver should go down . Simply saying errr its rancid is not any kind of answer. The Fix is in but there is always two ways to look at it right ? I look at it as a gift. Just like I looked at Haliberton stock when it was trading at 9 dollars. I wish I looked at apple at 15 .ERRR Missed big on that one. I have made money in the stock market and also lost money in it but now I am done with it. I only invest now in REAL PRODUCTS. Even the house market is being fixed / Propped up and eventually will pop again. So to will suppressed silver.

  • Reply to


    by faresrosario Aug 19, 2014 9:15 PM
    idealcarpentry idealcarpentry Aug 20, 2014 11:00 AM Flag

    So you do admit to price fixing.. And if you do then you must have figured who is behind it

  • Reply to

    Buying Physical Silver Every Pay Check is what I do

    by steve Aug 19, 2014 2:44 PM
    idealcarpentry idealcarpentry Aug 20, 2014 10:42 AM Flag

    OK So then DONT BE NIEVE and think that this isn't how they can manipulate the price with ....

  • Reply to

    advertised hype

    by russklopfenstein Aug 20, 2014 10:09 AM
    idealcarpentry idealcarpentry Aug 20, 2014 10:32 AM Flag

    I know ,isn't it great,,,,

  • Reply to

    Forbes - India Snatching Up Swiss Gold, Silver

    by goldoking7777 Aug 19, 2014 11:19 PM
    idealcarpentry idealcarpentry Aug 19, 2014 11:49 PM Flag

    Why wouldn't they ? Giving something that has value as long as the paper is good for something that will always have value.

  • idealcarpentry idealcarpentry Aug 19, 2014 10:49 PM Flag

    I'm still waiting for you to tell me when can i expect NEW LOWS ?????

  • idealcarpentry idealcarpentry Aug 19, 2014 9:39 PM Flag

    so very true,,,

  • Seriously what does it matter to them if we are buying real silver and we are losing some worth right now ? What is it to them ? I myself am not worried so why should they be ? What confer is it of theirs ? In fact I am very thankful for cheaper silver. Im sure in the future its going to be much more expensive to mine and to find. If its not in my lifetime then fine by me. Give it to the next generation is also fine by me. I have said this many many times . Never buy silver with monies you will need for bills or need for any time soon because NOBODY Knows just how long those that are manipulating the price can continue to do so... I think they will in fact keep this up until the last ounce is squeezed out of the ground.... Pretty amazing really because all they are doing is going to cause more of a problem later on... But after all isn't that what those in charge do best ? Kick the can down the road and leave it for the next generation to deal with.... How many times in our lives have we already seen this ? So why would you think this market will be any different ?

  • Reply to

    Buying Physical Silver Every Pay Check is what I do

    by steve Aug 19, 2014 2:44 PM
    idealcarpentry idealcarpentry Aug 19, 2014 9:28 PM Flag

    I say good for you steve. Keep stacking and one day you will be thankful you did... The paper market and the dollar will one day completely fall apart... The only thing that will have real value will be the real commodities . Paper will only be good for whipping your are with it.

  • Reply to


    by the_real_chinarockets Aug 19, 2014 4:58 PM
    idealcarpentry idealcarpentry Aug 19, 2014 9:25 PM Flag

    Allla bummba...

  • Reply to

    Bill Wier says:

    by commonsenseonly1 Aug 19, 2014 7:16 PM
    idealcarpentry idealcarpentry Aug 19, 2014 9:17 PM Flag

    LMFAO... I TOLD YOU ALL THIS WAS BS And just another SMOKE AND MIRROR GAME.... Only when we actually have a REAL PYSICAL SHORTAGE .. Only then will things will change. Which is fine by me because in truth they are doing EVERYONE a great service. It gives all of us a very good opportunity to by silver VERY CHEAP... The more stackers take out supplies the less is around for industrial . Industrial demand is growing practically every year... To make matters worse recycling declines as price drops. Just as we saw last year. A decline of 24 % . Can you imagine what this years decline will be ? Not to mention the lower it goes more mines will go under... So again all should be buying up what they can on the low and sit and watch as the pressure builds.

18.69-0.03(-0.16%)Aug 21 4:00 PMEDT

Trending Tickers

Trending Tickers features significant U.S. stocks showing the most dramatic increase in user interest in Yahoo Finance in the previous hour over historic norms. The list is limited to those equities which trade at least 100,000 shares on an average day and have a market cap of more than $300 million.