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im_too_hipp 5 posts  |  Last Activity: Mar 13, 2014 10:12 AM Member since: Mar 9, 2002
  • im_too_hipp im_too_hipp Mar 13, 2014 10:12 AM Flag

    so earnings will increase exponentially? Let's hope so as the multiple has blown out the last year exponentially, so somewhere ahead the earings can catch up to the 650 multiple. But that's uncertain. Nevertheless, as usual on what was expected news anyway, traders are climibing over themeselves to buy AMZN today on this EXPECTED news. Enjoy the chase.

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    It's the Economy !!

    by gregbent Jan 30, 2014 8:56 AM
    im_too_hipp im_too_hipp Jan 31, 2014 8:25 AM Flag

    "they reported 20% sales increase -- yes, that is growth," that's growth at the expense of taking your earnings down 75 % from the peak to keep that incremental sales growth. That's why they had to tap the bond market in late 2012 and are heading toward there again ahead: Retained earnings has stagnated for years now: why is that despite the fact that most of the spending AMZN does can be captialzied, yet retained earnings stay stagnated. GAAP for AMZN mean growth at any price. And I'd argue the upgrades that come with AMZN by these analysts are now become so over the top Pavolivan, why even report numbers? And remember: AMZN competitiors in ALMOST EVERY DIRECTIONS HAVE HUGE CASH PILES built up in this bull market. That won't make it easy for AMZN to merely turn the Prime lever, or any other , to get sales to drop to the bottom line. Maybe some, but perhaps not even close to bring down the multiple run rate that AMZN runs at now. You''re a pump artist Bent. nothing more.

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    It's the Economy !!

    by gregbent Jan 30, 2014 8:56 AM
    im_too_hipp im_too_hipp Jan 31, 2014 7:29 AM Flag

    "A big driver of growth": driver of what growth? sales? earnings have fallen off 75 % in the last 4 years to drive incremental sales growth to the point where AMZN has to tap the bond market in order to operate and keep buying back shares to keep o/s share counts from exploding upwards. Consumers are fickle to price increases on where they will get their items and ther'e's no guarantee that upping Prime prices will make people stick to AMZN when the freedom of buying from anywhere exists. Bezos is tapping down his cash quickly to keep this house of cards near $400/shr together. Regardless, he has locked into the benefit of the doubt that WS has gvien him.

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    did you know that Amazon's p/e is 1460?

    by virtualgh0st Jan 31, 2014 7:03 AM
    im_too_hipp im_too_hipp Jan 31, 2014 7:23 AM Flag

    and forget all these analysts earnings targets: I'd like to see an analyst ask when AMZN is gonna get back to getting close to peak earnings of $2.52 alltime for 4 qtrs. They make 75 % less than that right now. It's not gonna be easy to even get there : which would give AMZN a 385/2.52 = 153 times peak alltime earnings right now. That's off the charts in itself.

  • Reply to

    did you know that Amazon's p/e is 1460?

    by virtualgh0st Jan 31, 2014 7:03 AM
    im_too_hipp im_too_hipp Jan 31, 2014 7:18 AM Flag

    not it's not: it's now lower: replacing 21 cents AMZN made in 4th qtr 2012 with 52 cents in 2013, give AMZN about 60 cents of earnings in 2013. So the PE at 385 price per share is now 638 times earnings. whatever happens ahead, Bezos has been a huge winner by locking into selling 15 million shares as WS has pumped AMZN to over $400, while disregarding the peak earings decline to gain sales. It will be interesting how much Bezos can turn the Prime screw pricing up and keep loyal customers to pay it. That's why choice for the consumer beyond one entity to buy from is a great thing to have.

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