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informationlouisgreen 25 posts  |  Last Activity: 10 hours ago Member since: Jul 24, 2007
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  • This was on the list of my concerns. Posted the last two years , I stated Ford needed to make the stock price run before a new contrat. Although we had a 2 year time frme so it was at the bottom of my list . Everything else has come true . Poor MO , flying, questionater , lovelin, nothing they have posted has occured. Wiuth that said as a large shareholder I wish they had been right not me. BUT I GAMBLED as I had said for two years F is not an investment it is big gtime gamble.
    NOW we face super high labor costs , unsustainable. With a peaking auto mkt, growing compettiton, Europe losses which may never abate for years.
    The new truck which is a big if in terms of gross profit.
    I am wondering if Ford will ever see 20 again. One last run maybe to 18 if everything happens and people are sucked in again.

  • I posted the reasons FORD would be about 14 at end of year in Jan 2014 . And here we are
    TWO of my reasons again are making the news
    EUROPE I stated Ford had no plan and European economic conditions and competition
    UAW UAW UAW UAW see following article from today OH NO MO will complain
    Wall Street Journal talks about howe UAW destroyed the Little 3 and what will happen this ummer
    Here we go again as I predicted.
    Again I said f had one last run left I said maybe 20 did we already see it ?

  • anything. Everything I posted the last 2 years was done to teach you. Every point I have made about FORD has been correct.
    Everything you have wrote has been WRONG .
    NOW we HEAD TO WHAT I WARNED YOU ABOUT
    Car sales will top
    UAW CONTRACT watch out has labor costs will soar
    Competition , competition continues and will erode truck profits.
    Europe , no end in site , no plan
    Failure to execute
    AS STATED FORD HAS ONE MORE RUN , but I amended that to did Ford already make it
    FORD is not a long term hold . Ultimatly The little 3 have learned nothing Banlrupcy will happen when
    5 10 15 years but the model is not substainable
    I KNOW YOU BOUGHT 10 shares at 3 it was not a gamble it was an investmenr ROFLMAO

    MO PROVEN WRONG TODAY AND ALL YEAR

  • informationlouisgreen informationlouisgreen Dec 7, 2014 11:41 PM Flag

    Sometimes I think your a tad smarter than MO . Which is not saying much. Like I stated you posted an artice that mean NOTHING. It like saying Ford sold the most 100 foot limos . Yes they sold a whopping 14 thousand . Problem is Explorer Interceptors make up almost nothing of the Police mkt that Ford has not lost.
    In 1973 Ford sold 973 THOUSAND yes 9 hundred seventy three almost a million Police Crown Vics .
    Now they sell 14 k Police Interceptors big whoop. 20 States now use the Charger .
    Ford as usual made a big mistake and has totally lost a great mkt.
    Now we see Ford trading where just where I said it would be 4 years ago.
    Now we see the UAW contract rearing its ugly head.
    The record DOW and Ford under 16

  • I thought we move to the 17.50 range with any uptick in DOW ?

  • informationlouisgreen informationlouisgreen Dec 2, 2014 11:42 PM Flag

    Great news that means nothing. Let me take you on a tour of metro Detroit. I will give you a hundred dollar bill for every Ford Interceptor you see. You give me a buck for every Charger, Impala I see.
    How many police cars did Ford sell since the Vic was discontinued ?
    I have noticed the trend in every State I have been in so far.
    Cannot wait to hear from MO who hates facts .

  • informationlouisgreen by informationlouisgreen Nov 12, 2014 5:51 PM Flag

    He must have been escorted on a group trip. Has he always says Ford may go up or down.

    This is where Mo resides State mental facility . Give hime a call.
    Hawthorn Center
    Acting Director: George Mellos, MD
    18471 Haggerty Road
    Northville, MI 48167
    Phone: (248) 349-3000

  • informationlouisgreen by informationlouisgreen Oct 24, 2014 1:02 PM Flag

    disclaimer no need to hear from Flying, Questionator just UAW members who only interest is bleeding Ford dry and only concern in regard to future bankruptcy is pension loss.
    As for MO he owns 100 shares IF THAT .

    AS for those par taking in actual discussion what we saw is what I have said all along
    FORD WAS simply a gamble , in reality I stated many times it was fairly valued high 13s to 15 if DOW was strong.
    WE SEE I WAS SPOT ON
    My ten things that had to happen did not
    What we have learned last few weeks
    No DOW correction for Ford to stay above 15 We had a correction
    Ford has no plan to profit in Europe Ford continues to have losses and has no plan to profit
    Ford needs to execute , change former ways Massive recalls are taking place
    Ford needs a flawless Truck launch Nobody thinks this will happen
    Profit sliding No profit from cars 7 of top selling cars are foreign
    Profit headwinds UAW CONTRACT UAW will bleed them dry

    AND SAME OLD MANTRA to stockholders UAW getting raises , profit sharing, White collar $$$$$
    But hold on for 5 more years and you will see changes
    Don't worry about economy , Europe, DOW , or peaking auto sales

  • informationlouisgreen informationlouisgreen Oct 21, 2014 12:02 PM Flag

    PART 2
    7 of the top 7 selling cars are foreign
    Ford is a one trick pony profit only comes from North America and one product the truck
    A new launch must be flawless
    Way too much competition exists Ford , C, or GM must go out of business
    GM and C are attacking the truck mkt with some success Ford profit on trucks will decline
    The question as posed here the last several years , Ford has one last fake run left , did we see it ?
    In the end the US auto cannot survive.

  • Ford Motor (F) shares are flat in early market trading after analysts at Susquehanna initiated coverage on the
    stock with a "neutral" rating and $14 price target.
    Analysts at the firm estimate that the company will lose about $1.4 billion internationally this year despite strong F-150 sales, and that the American car company could become profitable overseas by 2020, but expressed caution at this time.

    I STATED FORD FAIR VALUE IS REALLY 14 to 15 . It hit 18 because of DOW.
    It would fall hard when DOW corrected , it did .
    I stated Ford had no plan for Europe , it does nt.
    Ford needed to make a move now in terms of price.
    NOW THEY SAY 5 years ??????????????????????????????????????????
    Anything can happen in 5 years
    The economy is always boom bust . And we have gone through the so called boom.
    Car sales cannot continue at this pace
    UAW UAW UAW labor costs are going to rise.
    Ford and GM have learned nothing from the past.
    I know many GM excecs nothing has really changed . I am guessing Ford is same
    High bonus , high incentive pay, trips , expense account etc

  • drop. I on the other hand posted numerous times this year the ten reasons why Ford would not reach 20 nor would it go above 18 by much. Next I posted we would re visit the low for the year . We broke through that.
    Europe, declining profit, one trick pony = the truck
    I again wonder is there one more suckers run left for GM and Ford before the ultimate collapse ?

  • Reply to

    Ford longs are not to be trusted

    by bigkahuna1333 Oct 7, 2014 5:12 PM
    informationlouisgreen informationlouisgreen Oct 10, 2014 11:55 AM Flag

    These guys own a hundred shares . So up down it does nt matter. Anyone who says I have not sold so I don't have a loss is clueless. Not to mention a 5 point drop on even 5 thousand shares makes you miss a lot of nice buys in a correction.

  • informationlouisgreen by informationlouisgreen Oct 9, 2014 2:33 PM Flag

    To bad he could not figure out why Ford was not an investment. Even though in countless posts I listed the ten reasons why it was a very large gamble.
    His last post to me was it is not the end of the year.
    Just wait for the bomb s dropped in October earnings .
    I told you over and over
    Europe no end in sight to losses
    Profit from only one vehicle and now your putting that on the line what a gamble
    Competition way to many manufactures
    Brand loyalty , thing of past Ford will have to incentive the new truck line big time = lower profits
    UAW does not get it
    7 of the top 7 selling cars are FORIEGN
    Downgrades downgrades

    THE DOW Ford only broke 17 because of the DOW
    How many times did I repeat here DOW took Ford up correction will drop it big
    How many times did I say
    Ford is fairly valued 13.50 to 15 trading range
    Not an investment but a somewhat risky trading play

  • in the long run for the US auto. I said one more run and that's it. Did we have it is the question ?
    Don`t forget the UAW contract coming .

  • informationlouisgreen by informationlouisgreen Oct 3, 2014 9:52 PM Flag

    Basement until the State put you in the asylum I worked a real job
    in my youth . Nothing to be ashamed of selling furniture
    while you lived in the basement

  • informationlouisgreen by informationlouisgreen Oct 3, 2014 12:25 PM Flag

    Lets see I called fair mkt value multiple times at 14 to 15 . Stated Ford would not get to 20 this year .
    I posted about Europe numerous times . About Ford incentives and on and on
    I was right again about Ford.
    At best to reach 20 , there can be no DOW correction.
    And that would be a what % of a rise almost impossible.
    The head winds as always posted remain the same
    They really make their profit from one mkt and from one product.
    Everything rides on a new product launch and the competition has gotten unbelievable in trucks
    7 of the top selling cars are foreign .
    Europe issue has never been solved
    Losses happen fast and are large Billions
    How long can the economy hold up ?
    New cars sales do not make new highs year after year we are completing a cycle
    Labor labor labor costs will be escalating with the new contract the UAW only sees profit
    The luxury mkt belongs to foreign car makers. Geez have you seen the new Matthew Mc ads there terrible , young buyers don't have a clue to what he is talking about I really don't. They don't even feature the car. Less

  • rather then the usual nonsense. I don't own any Ford stock at 18. I know this is a difficult concept for you to grasp but what drives a stock price up is people willing to pay more for it then the last person.
    Ford has a lot to prove .
    Why don't you get real and admit how wrong you have been.
    I expect the usual response I made a wise investment [I took an insane chance] and bought at 2 [ok I bought 10 shares at 2 so it was not a big deal]

  • informationlouisgreen by informationlouisgreen Oct 2, 2014 12:11 PM Flag

    As polite as I can be we have been conned again. You may think I am a short . I own tons of Ford. Albeit I considered it a gamble. I thought maybe I am wrong maybe Ford will reach 20 then keep earnings $$$$ and be a 30 stock. or I might sell. I stand by what I said several times . FORD has one more run left, I wonder did we see it ?
    I was right again about Ford.
    At best to reach 20 , there can be no DOW correction.
    And that would be a what % of a rise almost impossible.
    The head winds as always posted remain the same
    They really make their profit from one mkt and from one product.
    Everything rides on a new product launch and the competition has gotten unbelievable in trucks
    7 of the top selling cars are foreign .
    Europe issue has never been solved
    Losses happen fast and are large Billions
    How long can the economy hold up ?
    New cars sales do not make new highs year after year we are completing a cycle
    Labor labor labor costs will be escalating with the new contract the UAW only sees profit
    The luxury mkt belongs to foreign car makers. Geez have you seen the new Matthew Mc ads there terrible , young buyers don't have a clue to what he is talking about I really don't. They don't even feature the car.

  • Reply to

    Behind September's numbers

    by questinator Oct 2, 2014 11:36 AM
    informationlouisgreen informationlouisgreen Oct 2, 2014 11:58 AM Flag

    That is all great . The only problem is you left out what Ford has now stated.
    On Monday Ford said that its profit for 2014 would be as much as $2 billion lower than earlier estimates.
    Digging into the weakness, Cramer said Ford actually "dropped three bombs at once: They said Europe had gotten bad, South America is now terrible and the United States is weaker than they thought."
    Cramer believes the commentary is critical for investors because, "None of these (issues), I repeat, none of these (issues), were in the script a few months ago. In fact, when former CEO Alan Mulally left he made a point of telling me that he felt the worst was over in these areas and that they were all improving."
    Cramer says there are only two possible conclusions. Either Mulally knew about the woes and fibbed or the global economy has taken a sharp turn for the worse, in a short period of time.

    "It's tough for me to think Mulally lied. He's always been straight with me. I think things got worse, fast.

    NOW FOR SAKE OF EASE I POSTED CRAMMERS COMMENTS INSTEAD to going to the source
    I WILL ADD IF YOU LOOK UP MY OLDER POSTS I always said Bill Ford and Mually lied . They did it just 3 days before the drop on National TV . They conned Kirk into buying millions more shares when they said everything is fine .
    3 days later Ford started the march toward near bankruptcy.

  • I did . And I explained why .
    Now we have another problem October earnings call.
    Ford is getting scary for sure. Because they now say wait until end of the decade for results.
    Europe is still a major problem.
    Oh and that pesky thing called the UAW who are going to suck 5 billion in profits away very fast.

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