This person probably doesn't even work at Boeing, I don't know any people like this. I know some lazy and incompetent people, but you have to do something. Somebody's just trying to stir something up!
There will be no revote in my opinion, the rule of law has been gone for sometime in America! The whistleblowers or even under attack. So my guess is they'll just say will do try to do better next time. Long-term Boeing employees know the fix is in.
But what most people don't get is what's coming. It's spreading all over the Internet -currency reset! Why else was a company so intent on getting this done?
I find it amazing that so many people are gullible. I have never in all my life since it scare tactics but this company. The management is the most incompetent greedy folks I've ever had the displeasure to know.
So what's your point, Ive seen just as many inept managers. It's all too easy for Boeing to just gouge the wages of union members instead of getting down to the dirty details of how to really manage this company.
But as I have stated before we were set up to fail from the get-go.
You can't tell me there is something up. The vote done during the holidays when most people are on vacation, still only half the shop was even at work. And suspiciously the vote turns up 51%??? Not 52 not 54 not 53 not 55 but 51? It's like going back when Bush the Gore. I'm telling you the fix was in!
Gee, with friends like you, who needs enemy's. The union members don't have Wall Street
And politicians in their pockets. They didn't destroy the dollars value. Perhaps you need to look past your limited view. Everyone is more interested in taking down this union
Then finding common ground. Will it make everyone happy when were all making Walmart wages, while government pays for all health care.
We're headed toward third world status- what's your hurry. Wait till the dollar is no longer the worlds currency, then you'll know the meaning of pain.
Thought I'd start out with a little observation. Why is it those that want us to give up our pension are the same ones who are going to keep theirs. The international ,the politicians, Boeing executives.
I heard one union member say, it takes everyone working together to make it work. The managers, engineers, tooling, planners, production, assemblers, vendors. One link isn't more important than the other
You mentioned a 58 day strike in 2008. Remember Boeing changed management in 1998. Where McDonnell Douglas took over Boeing, kicking out most of the previous managers. Since that time it is been a very Tumultuous time between Union and company.
Let the company know that some of us understand business as well as a they do. My main question is whether they learned anything from the 787? If so why would they risk it happening with the 777X.
You don't move from your best experienced workforce. The buildings are already in place. The roads, The seaports, vendor support. You're getting 8.7 billion from the taxpayers of the state of Washington.
From the unions point of view, why should we take huge concessions even though the company says they are being squeezed by competitors. From our point of view we see record backlog with record profits. We see $10 billion stock buyback to shareholders with 50% increase in dividends. We See a CEO about to retire and wants to make the most out of stock options.
Boeing is in a supercycle, that's what they call it on Wall Street. This means profits will never be as good as they are right now. So if we give all these concessions at a time when the company is doing great, what are they going to ask for when sales are diminishing?
If I were a customer of Boeing, I would be asking the wisdom in a decision like this, risking on time production and quality, from an unknown quantity.
From our side what we basically see is corporate greed. Bought off politicians and press, pushing corporate agenda through fear.
We all know about fear, losing our freedoms, our privacy, in the illusion of security by the state.
But if management needs some help in improving costs they should look inward, perhaps without so many layers of management communication would improve along with quality and productivity. Therefore improving the bottom line.
Businesses are running away from California in droves. It's one of the most unfriendly business states in the country. Lots of regulations, lots of taxes. A lot of the buildings have been sold. California is bankrupt!
Unemployment benefits for millions about to end. But guess what there's no jobs. The recovery is a Lie.
With 50 to 100 million people dependent on government, this was not the way the world is supposed to be.
But that's what happens when you go from capitalism to crony capitalism to socialism. Guess what's next?
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I think Boeing from the 787 experience have learned a lesson.
The problem is the Board of Directors moved to Chicago. They are out of touch with the people. What's worse is they don't even want to know us. Greed kills, absolute greed absolutely kills. Unless you have leadership with empathy, a love of more than money, you've already lost.
What we fear most who have been at the company for a long time, is that they will run this company into the ground just like they did McDonnell Douglas. What's the definition of insanity, doing the same thing over and over again, even when you fail time and again. Perhaps it's time for McNerney to step down and admit he isn't the leader he and board, shareholders thought he was. If the company is to last in the longterm it needs to think past quarter to quarter profits. We have seen where Wall Street leads us with this myopic vision. How much money is enough?
It's not just Boeing that's at stake it's our whole country. Neo
It's not so much even the managers, as it is who leads them. People without vision or direction, those with little value about anything but money. We need managers who can think for themselves, not those that just jump in any direction there told. We needed a change of paradigm.
A true collaboration, a melding of the minds, The new avatar. Most companies will die without this metamorphosis. Just as these people on this planet need to wake up and change. Life isn't always about what you can take out of it, but what you can give to it. You learn this in life if you live long enough, and become awake.