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itsahorserace 156 posts  |  Last Activity: 2 hours 22 minutes ago Member since: Jun 4, 2004
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    270,000 Shares Held by me

    by wiscodisco02 Nov 4, 2015 12:08 PM
    itsahorserace itsahorserace Nov 4, 2015 1:29 PM Flag

    Nice position. Nice buys. Holding 130k shares of SGYP long now. Bought half of my position in TROV at $5 and the other half at $4.28. Spent last year building my position in SGYP.
    Although I've been following TROV for years, and love their platform, it's always been kind of a "black box" stock to me. Never really know what's happening inside. All I know is at least once a year this pops to $9.
    You seem to get what the shorts are doing here, that is taking it down.
    What are you thoughts on moving events next year and their timing? Will I be waiting until November next year for news or is something up before the insurance presentation? Your thoughts as an old long here appreciated. GLTA.

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    Shorts still trying to shake $5

    by itsahorserace Nov 4, 2015 10:31 AM
    itsahorserace itsahorserace Nov 4, 2015 1:13 PM Flag

    No they don't. And stop polluting my threads. No one reads yours for a reason.

  • itsahorserace by itsahorserace Nov 4, 2015 10:31 AM Flag

    Or so it seems. Thank you longs, no one is selling their shares to them.

  • itsahorserace itsahorserace Nov 3, 2015 2:34 PM Flag

    If you look at the bid/ask you can see shorts stacking the ask with 10k shares at $5.05 trying to cap the rise. Wish someone would just take it out.

  • If shorts want to cover some make them bring it up to get shares. If no one has figured it out yet, I hate short HFT quants. I coexist with them because I have to, and they provide great entry points. Buy low short shares and sell high.

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    Today's Move...What Event Caused a 15% Jump??

    by rockie999 Nov 2, 2015 6:22 PM
    itsahorserace itsahorserace Nov 2, 2015 7:33 PM Flag

    Look at a 3 minute candle chart. This was all short covering with some momo traders chasing the rise. The only reason the price was down was because shorts were HFT dumping shares on our heads. They needed to cover a few shares. Watch out, now that they've covered to $5, they usually like to shake out the momo traders who bought at $4.20 and anyone else with a week hand. If the IBB were to retrace a bit that would help them a lot as well. Short like to shake you after a move. This is all speculation,...the trading will tell.

  • itsahorserace itsahorserace Nov 2, 2015 7:18 PM Flag

    I agree with your original post. They already won. They're counting their money and laughing all the way to the bank like the shorts here. Yeah, they're getting legal pushback too, but I think it's from VRX. No kidding, if Citron were to be found guilty of illegal manipulation, which is highly unlikely, they would be fined a couple of million bucks. This would be less than the legal fees they are currently paying. This is a huge win for Citron. They all got rich on this in a big way. They've probably made over a $100 bucks a share on this short. That's gigantic! They played everyone brilliantly.
    And I'd like to think that with my knowledge of shorts, it wouldn't have happened to me. But Ackman couldn't stop it at VRX, I sure can't stop it here. I don't think it can be stopped once it gets going. Fear is a terrible thing. I think it makes it that much more important to buy a good company with good fundamentals. Worst thing that can happen to you is you get trapped long in a good company. Liked that original post of yours. We've got to keep a certain sense of humor about it all. I think IBSC data will be fantastic. This drug has already tested extremely well with bloating and pain. Let's see if we can keep the low diarrhea going. That will make it newsworthy. GL.

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    by gtothreg Nov 2, 2015 3:56 PM
    itsahorserace itsahorserace Nov 2, 2015 6:30 PM Flag

    Today was some short covering and a little organic buying on the IBB pop. Nothing really happens here until March or April. Load up down here and wait until then if you want to make some cash here. Not to be mean in any way, but the only person here who knows what's going on is onesourcehvac, and he's a short lying to you constantly. I'm an old long from SGYP, the company this drug was spun off from. I am very knowledgeable about both the drugs and the trading here. You should follow someone who knows what's he's doing. I'll help you a bit if you want. Many years ago I had an old long help me. It changed everything for me. I'd like to help some decent people. Won't tell you exactly what I'm doing until I've done it, but I tell you an hour later. Let me know if you have any questions. Call me out as "horse." It's an affectionate term old longs hung on me a long time ago. GL.

  • itsahorserace itsahorserace Nov 2, 2015 6:09 PM Flag

    I'm shocked. Not! See my post from yesterday on VRX. A couple of old longs have been buying up TROV in the low fours. That ran about 60 cents today. They pinned us at $5.60 and capped TROV at $5. Think the IBB gives back some of its big gains from today in the morning and shorts hope to get some swing traders to sell their shares to them tomorrow by making them think all their profits are evaporating.
    Shorts are setting up their position now to play our coming catalyst and news (NDA). They will try to suppress the run up until they are overwhelmed by real buying, then let it run a bit on its own momentum, then pump it up at the very end of the run and short it again. Rinse and repeat. At least we should trade at significantly higher levels for a while come December and January.
    This is a great company and we will be sold. Not selling a share of my core.

  • itsahorserace itsahorserace Nov 2, 2015 5:25 PM Flag

    Well said.

  • That's what I would do. Scare you at $5. Make you feel like your profits are evaporating so you sell the pop. Don't fall for it! Hold your shares past $5 and make shorts work. Don't let them cover with your selling at $5. Gotta play the game with them and not give them what they want. They'll still try to shake you but never give shorts what they want. Buy short shares low and hold or sell high in the $6's or $7's. My aggressive buying at $4.22 yesterday paying dividends already. GLTA. Everyone knows to NOT FEED THE BEARS!

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    Got you scared yet?

    by itsahorserace Oct 31, 2015 4:00 PM
    itsahorserace itsahorserace Nov 1, 2015 8:35 PM Flag

    My last purchase order on Friday at 4.22 was almost entirely filled in hundreds. You're being kind to shorts saying they trade in 400 share lots. Total control of the pps up and down by HFT short quants means that they "create" the charts others seem to be using to predict the stocks movement. Charts here aren't just a laggin indicator, they're blatantly painted by shorts. Illusions to lead you around with by the nose. If youre just holding long, then don't worry. If you want to trade with these guys, you need to get into the "short plan," for us here. Throw away charts except as they relate to previous short patterns. Resistance and support are purely measures of short will here, like at SGYP. You've seen them blow through all support bringing TROV down to these levels. If and when they cover some, the opposite will be true. That's why I'm here now. If they take it down further, I'll buy more. Started buying at $5. Almost done. Have another 5k shares to buy at $4. Then I'll switch to patience. Trov will have its day in 2016 as it does every year. I'll be there when it does.

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    fresh motley fool buy piece today

    by indiansfan407 Nov 1, 2015 2:04 PM
    itsahorserace itsahorserace Nov 1, 2015 8:10 PM Flag

    Always a bit unnerving for me to read a positive article where the author makes a one on one comparison with IRWD's market cap and omits the fact they only own half their drug. Well, as uninformed as he is, he still thinks we're a "buy." Imagine how excited he'd be if he knew we owned the whole drug.

  • Man, tough to watch VRX get eviscerated by shorts. These guys are really good at gutting you. The daily timing of the negative stories is familiar. VRX is Enron? Common. They all went to jail for a long time. But shorts have already won. I saw VRX at $96 the other day. And it doesn't look like shorts are done yet. I thought VRX might bounce back on denials, but this just might be war. Endless accusations of fraud by shorts followed by endless denials of fraud by VRX. Result: Everyone talking about VRX FRAUD FOREVER! Ahhhhhhhh. Bad for VRX. Definately put a big check mark in the win column for shorts on this one. The masses love it when big pharma gets kicked around too. They hate how much they pay for drugs and hate the rich corporations who make them. Free pass for
    Citron. Ahhhhhhhh.

  • itsahorserace by itsahorserace Oct 31, 2015 4:00 PM Flag

    The hedgies who are shorting this and their troll minions are simply about trying to manipulate the price. Love it when shorts rip you down and tell you Mr. Market is speaking. At least Akman makes a case for his short, these guys don't even try. Many smart longs have been loading up here. I'm in until at least end of next year. No worries. Besides nothing messes shorts up more than buying their shares in 100 share lots at the bottom from their algorithm. Baby shorts are irrelevant. It's the hedgies you have to track. Steal short shares. You buy low and mess up their day. GLTA.

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    Loading up the truck here.

    by itsahorserace Oct 30, 2015 1:08 PM
    itsahorserace itsahorserace Oct 30, 2015 8:15 PM Flag

    Stay off my threads. Start your own. I'll stay off those.

  • itsahorserace by itsahorserace Oct 30, 2015 1:20 PM Flag

    TOTAL manipulation. That means that up moves are as orchestrated as down moves. 30mm short shares don't walk away, they work you over. So they cover a million or two shares, just 28mm more to cover. Until something brings in real buyers, it's all bring downs and covers, or naked shorting. Just wondering if they shorted us again from $7.10. There were no shares left to short. After the cover yesterday, more share to borrow for shorts now. Let's see what their bringdown price target is. if they break $6 buy a ton. GLTA.

  • itsahorserace by itsahorserace Oct 30, 2015 1:08 PM Flag

    TROV is a screaming buy at this level IMHO. When you start getting filled in 100's you know your at the leading edge of the short algorithm.

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    by wiscodisco02 Oct 29, 2015 8:33 AM
    itsahorserace itsahorserace Oct 29, 2015 7:21 PM Flag

    Will be buying tomorrow if this keeps up. Will wait until 2:00 to decide. This stock pops at least once a year for reasons that are not all apparent. There is blood in the streets. Time to buy. Good to see that some TROV longs are putting their money where their mouths are. This could be two swings. The first to $5, and the second from $5 to where ever next year. Totally manipulated right now, but a great platform. Great buy at $4.46. People sweat pennies too much. $4 is the absolute bottom here. Let's see where it goes tomorrow. Shorts are really into crushing it right now. Even surprised me.

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    picked up...

    by biodrift Oct 29, 2015 2:22 PM
    itsahorserace itsahorserace Oct 29, 2015 2:46 PM Flag

    Good buy. I was busy swinging SGYP trading position today at $7. Will concentrate on TROV tomorrow and buy more if it continues. Was going to do it today, but was glued to the SGYP board trying to catch $7. We both had a good day. Maybe they'll give me one more day on TROV.

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