Hey Stu, what are your future projections for SGYP. How do you think we will trade this year. Please,include price targets and dates. Might as well go on the record. Clearly you have an as yet unexpressed ideas of where we are headed. Sorry all the shorts feel the need to post on my threads to be read. But I guess its hard to get read when everyone has you on ignore. Call the year for me here.
Didn't miss a beat. Great articulate post. I don't have much to say anymore. Everyone here already gets it and nothing changes. When something changes my posts will get much more interesting. Hope Yellen is dovish. Oh yeah, forgot to mention how happy I am that Ms. Ain't-drug tweet got smashed in NH. Democrats are finally casting off the shackles of not wanting to admit they were always closet socialists. Talk about missed calls, If you had asked me six months ago if Trump might actually be the republican nominee and run against an avowed Socialist Democrat for the presidency, I would have told you you were crazy. Kinda like this move to $3. It's a crazy world going crazy. Long and strong until buyout.
Zacks for me is more about earnings, so, since we have none, they always rank us in the sewer. On those few occasions when they bump us up, I think it's worth noting.
Always read you. You must be a graduate of SGYP with a major in "HFT short manipulation." Problem is once you understand what they're doing it still doesn't tell you when they're going to do it, how far they'll go, and for how long. Struggle, struggle. My best. Haven't hear from Bidrift in a while.
Feels like the MM really wants this to be under but close to $4, but will take it down if the IBB takes another stiff leg down. The fed and the markets reaction should provide a little clarity as to direction. Just too much uncertainty regarding the direction of this stock right now for me to jump in again yet. If I didn't have 15k shares averaged in at $4.50 already, I'd probably be more aggressive. Looking to swing those shares mid year or sooner if news brings this up past $7+. Also, just swung 5k shares I picked up at $3.20 on the pop to $5.87. Don't think I'll get that lucky twice. News was completely unexpected. Think they should have waited for the second news release.
Ctrv must be running on fumes right about now. Think it's time after Yellen speaks to start bringing it up for the raise. Nice job trying not to sell anyone shares below $1, but I managed to get some. Loved the fractional bid ask spread today. Wow! Aren't you supposed to create liquidity? No, just make yourself money and work with shorts who feed you some volume. Blatant stuff. That's not why you got a license to print shares. Try to honor your status.
So refreshing to be among the longs at SGYP. I'm arguing with a guy on the Trov board who refuses to believe HFT shorts can make money buying and selling to themselves. The guy I'm arguing with thinks that the fact they're going to speak at the conference we're attending caused Trov to pop today rather than some hedge covering by shorts before the fed meeting tomorrow. We may go up or down here for no reason, but at least we understand why. It's like Trov is inhabited by newbies. Nice guys there, but living in a dream world. Like to talk about Mr. Market speaking when they go up, and clueless as to why they go down. I remember those days. I guess you can choose to live in the matrix or you can take the pill and go down the rabbit hole like Neo and see life as it really is. Brutal and manipulated.
The article was posted on stocktwits. Unfortunately the university researchers were doing their research with Linzess. The problem they were having was that Linzess broke down too high in the intestinal tact. IRWD said they would consider making a formulary that broke down more slowly. Don't bother! We've already got sp333 that does exactly that. And doesn't cause diarrhea. To be taken as a colon cancer preventative I would imagine that you would have to take it regularly for years. They also mentioned that the obese were most at risk. Well, we're in the right country to find obese people. Sp333 might prevent colon cancer. I think that's big news and increases the value of sp333. Something they've been trying to do for a while here. Sorry I don't have the link, but it can be found. Maybe a better poster than myself can find the link for those who haven't read the paper. Longs could use some good news here.
Let's see if the fed helps or hurts us tomorrow. The IBB turning doesn't mean we'll fly up, but it would sure help us not go down. Even Zachs has a buy on us this week I think.
Long and strong.
I know this goes against your grain to think that you can make a fortune trading to yourself, but shorts don't like volume becasue they can't control the bid and ask completely.
For example, let's say the stock is trading at $4. Shorts can bring you down to $3 by selling 50k shares, then cover 100k shares below $3.50. They just made more than 50 cents a share on 50K shares. That's why they create trading channels and run it up and down. They're making money the whole time. Only real buying messes with their algorithms. So when that happens they sell into the buying to stop it from running, wait for the buying volume to stop, then HFT you right back down. You've seen this happen twice here recently first with the pop to $7 then the binge own to $5. And then again when we popped to $5.87 on the insurance news and promptly got hammered back down to, well,...the $3.60's. Don't listen to me, talk to some brokers about it. Give HFT traders a 30 - 50 cent trading range and they can profit all day long. You assume that buying shares going up and down is a zero sum game. Look at the volume on up and down moves over time and you will see that it's not.
One way I try to decide if a stock is going to be manipulated up or down it to look at the price moves by volume over time. If it's costing shorts more shares to bring it down than they can cover on up moves, the stock will likely go up. If it costs them less to bring it down than they can cover on up moves, then you either stay down or go down. HFT shorts also have a trading account, so often when you see them buy shares at the close, it's to throw at you the next morning to bring it down. Up and down moves are not a zero sum game. That's how they are able to do it.
Good luck and thanks for being civil when you disagree. Feel free to challenge my thinking, I'll do the same. This is what makes a board vibrant and helpful. Some of the most informative threads come from longs challenging each.
You posted this as joke right, shi_head. People were hedging their positions all day today. Even the big boys don't know what the fed will say or how the market will react.
But if you think attending a conference will pop this stock, you're delusional. We'd be at conferences all year if that were true and so would everybody else. Only news moves stocks, and the fed is big news, not a conference, unless we release new news, which hardly ver happens. The news here is out already.
I used to think conferences would pop my stock about 8 years ago, then experience got in the way.
Hope your theory works out for you. I'll go with the fed meeting tomorrow.
I'm being cautious right now. Whichever way the fed meeting goes, likely the IBB will follow. If the IBB starts to recover, we will, though it might take a little time. If fed news is bad, it will reinforce "risk off" trades and drop the IBB. The MM will feel the pressure to take it down here.
I'm betting the fed will be equivocal, and the market will interpret that as dovish. Dovish will be good.
Look at a candle chart. It was clearly some short covering, that's why it went up, then properly got taken down. Shorts covered some shares so they don't get trapped down here if things go the wrong way for them tomorrow.
If you want to get Timmy look at his projections for the stock going into phase III CIC. Shorts all said we'd be lucky to make $5.50.
Looks to me like shorts are like every one else, hedging their bets for tomorrow's fed meeting. That pop to $4 was some shorts getting our early. The MM is holding this under $4 but seems wary of going lower right now. If Yellen says something we want to hear, market will go up big. If she doesn't say what you want to hear, watch out below. Big day tomorrow for the big market. I like to think it goes up. I'll I sit with my $4.50 position if they don't want to bring it down. You know what they say, "don't fight the fed."
Same thing with me. I see this long list of blocked posts at the bottom and five up top. Good thing is my posts stay on top forever. I'm so sick of people saying that low oil prices are deflationary. There is an over supply of oil. Price goes down. That's not deflationary, that's just great for everyone except big boys in oil and those who loaned them money. If prices go down because there is no demand, that's deflationary.
Long and strong.
A trader not in biotech mentioned that he was shorting the IBB as a hedge against his other positions. Certainly others may be doing this. Added unrelated pressure on the IBB. So far this morning shorts have been stacking $3.40. Let's see if they can hold it or we break through. Think they're covering a bit just in case the fed becomes dovish and there is a rally post fed report. Shorts hedging a little too. Already bought some at $3.27. If it goes lower next week or month I'll buy more. Whatever you do don't sell here. Also looks like we may be getting a little buying when they drop it down near note holders basis. They got me to buy there. A few up days will not necessarily mean this over. Big boys keep shorting the IBB on any recovery. Still "risk off."
Thanks for Bleek. Where there is a nail there is a need for a hammer.
Bob, you might want to be cautious right now. Unfortunately, even though I don't think the MM wants to take it down, you can see what a bad IBB day does here. After reading everything to day, I think we may have more pain ahead and I no longer believe Friday will be the end of it. Today was bad. Might want to give this more time to see if it retests its lows or gets close. $3.50 looked good today, but when I saw the breadth of the sell off and absorbed the negative sentiment, I backed off. I guess all I can say is I'm waiting. This can definitely go lower in the near future.
To each their own. But I believe shorts create the charts here to manipulate those who trade them. Just a different way of thinking. Support and resistance are simply measures of short will to me. They would take it lower with gusto if they hadn't been burned twice down here by longs and the company. That's what's giving them pause if you ask me. Best of luck to you though. I'm not the thought police, just put forth my thinking. Those who want to listen can. There is room on the board for more than one way I of thinking.
Good call. Right on the money as always. Are you ever right? And don't believe in shorts, although some of your posts talk about them. There is no "chart bottom." They can take this down to $2.85 if they want in a heartbeat. No volume and HFT shorts. Really think the MM doesn't want to go this low, but with the IBB down $10, shorts aren't leaving him much choice. Very compelling prices to buy here.
You have to buy when there's blood in the streets. There's blood everywhere. Trov might fly up, but I think this climbs it's way up. Too many shorts to just let it fly. They will manage their cover as they always do. But shares in the low $3's are very very low. Trying not to be a pig. Just keep adding lots as it goes down.