oh a I forgot to address the sell side part of your question, at this point why sell ? its .15 off the bottom lows and selling at this point is not gonna help unless ya need the money or the if ya want a loss to offset other gains.i am sitting on my shares, but I will sell into a strong market if one developes.
well Jason,good question.
one could buy if they want to play the ip #$%$ again, but then after all those other multi billion dollar cases we were gonna get ( they all turned out to be complete squat) I would not risk play money on that one. if they win the appeal there will be lots of time to trade that angle.As I have said before just cuz ya win an appeal does not mean you win the case and some here seem to think that's the way it works.
one could buy if they think there is a buyout of HIPP coming. however a buyout does not mean we shoot to the moon . sure folks talk of a rise to around a dollar but will the average joe who doesn't trade be able to get out when lots of folks decide to take the cash and run..a buyout is great for the traders, it can be for longs if the buyout price is above what the intial buy price is for that long. I have heard we are being shopped but how long will it take and at what price is the question. what if there is no buyout? then what do you do?where does the stock go then? not a play for me at this time.
lastly, one could buy if they think the company will perform as we have hoped for years , but after all these years and countless Qs I am more of the" show me" before I throw money into the stock. to many ops out there in the markets to make money rather then sit and wait.
can I ask why MARA who you have dealt with hasn't jumped on this stock if the potential is so great? your connected , give us your take.
as always best of luck,greg
well look at you billy ,the fly on the wall....... tell us more..wink wink
siruis someday I hope karma will show you what you sow...............................your the biggest piece of zhit I have ever seen and that's comparing you with arn.
we went up another 20% today.
congrats, from .08 to .54
hmmmmm whats that % gurus
hey Jason hows that profit of 78% off the bottom of a .21 cent stock from a high of 3.95 doing..............
after all if you boast about how its come off the bottom you should tell all how it crashed 3.71 to .21(which we all know didn't stay at .21 for long at all . in fact most claimed they couldn't get shares at that price)whats that loss percentage?
but the speaking heads here keep averaging in here and hope for a double , but will you be able to get out when everyone wants out....... there are only so many chairs in this game .
jade, if you listen to these folks you could go broke, they have been telling foks to keep averaging in since 3.95. IMO. If I were in you place I would not sell if you have a position under the price here, but only because I am a trader and can afford to lose my entire my position if the tall tales become nothing more then fiction..
play that buyout that billy keeps harping on but frankly short of inside info he is guessing.i would be nimble and ready to trade, don't wait for the high. pigs get slaughtered everyday. let those that led everyone down the rosey path lose their seats..jade this is my own thoughts and you need to do whats right for you and only you .. but please do keep levelheaded and don't trade on emotions. that is ALWAYS a losing scenario.
maybe ARN can come back and tell us some soothing bs...lol
best of luck Jade ,greg
that's new for a long here to say, the ip suit means nothing .watch out you will lose your standing in the gurus club....lol
yep, a double for sure and then a slide back to reality when they don't have money to fight.maybe MARA can buy them and try to get money from yahoo. isn't that what MARA does?maybe Jason can tell them all about HIPP.lol
just to be clear , the traders will run this puppy on the news and then? what happens to every stock that is news driven ?be ready to take your double and run...................................
I plan to sell into any strength to get RID of my stock. I think most the board does .well maybe not the three gurus who will pump pump pump. and claim how they were never wrong........I cant wait for those posts.
one thing to remember ,even if an appeal is granted that doesn't mean they win the case.
just where are they gonna get money to back into court and fight?
I bet if they win an appeal they settle with yahoo just like they did with everyone else for a bunch of nothing.
do you remember all the other cases that were slam dunks? how bout all that money that never happened.
GET REAL my friends, its pretty much over per the street not already ramping this stock up.
the street will always beat you to the punch.
how many times do you need reality to smack ya down?
the price of HIPP is what the street values HIPP with or without the appeal.
lets hope for a buy out ,
by the way if the case was for sure do you think those fine directors wouldn't be buying shares while they could? isn't stout still on the board? how come he isn't buying shares hand over fist?
actions speak louder then words............................................
I agree wake , ma and pa do bear most of the responsibility but sharks have a way of making them feel all good inside and with the constant pat on the back they fall for it. its been that way since man walked the earth and I am sure it will continue long after we are dust.losing money is the best teacher and gosh knows i have been taught many times.
i have seen the the sharks home and have swam right along side . I could tell stories that would make the sec cringe,they don't care though. that I know.the stock market is the wild west plain and simple and only tough survive to fight another day.
one of my favorite movies is the outlaw josey wales with clint eastwood. just like josey i will take on the #$%$ with no quarter offered. i had a mentor who did the same thing many years ago who no longer is with us but his desire for right still burns brite in my world.
i have always been upfront on who i am ,i have never hid behind a fake id. you can find me quite easily.those that saw me as a bad guy thought so cus i was questioning their gurus. noone wants to find out they have been fooled and they will join the fight cus they cant believe its possible they were wrong. its human nature.i understand what ya mean wake and honestly i am not sure if there is a better way. if there is i am all ears.as for ma and pa if i see a wrong and its within my power to help ,i am there.my style is rough forsure ,i learned it from the streets i grew upon.its truely time for me to get off this soap box and move on . theres gold in them thar hills and i need to do some dd. i will let ya know when my next stock is ripe for the digging and maybe you might just want to dig a little too! thanks for the plain talk wake.
hey Jason thought i should reply to this post as well, i brought BBY to the table here and made a killing that was dwarfed by my bringing PHOT to the table at .08 which is now mid thirties. Hmmmmm , looks like i do ok trading....
and the best Jason ,is I share my ideas even with those i go toe to toe with.
hope your dreams turn out.
saving the world is one of the things on my bucket list. lol
your not stupid Jason ,that i know. but if you got duped by Arena as you say why do you feel its ok for posters here to dupe others?as for screaming buy, only if you can take a loss if all goes south as history with this stock has shown. the value is there in HIPP without the IP,but can we claim it as shareholders and not get sold out?
Are you one of the ones Arena is going after ?
me ashamed? not a chance. I was the one of the few who rang the warning bells that all might not be so rosy and that short of inside info most here had no clue what really was going on in the hallowed halls at what was once AUGT. posts like, I overheard from the lawyers , or I met an expert on a ski lift and a whole bunch of others that truly were pumps to sell stock to help positions already acquired. if I helped one person save one dollar I am happy.its great you can average down ,lots of folks couldn't. they WERE led astrayed by folks who post here still and elsewhere under new names. I know, you know the exact folks I speak of. wheres my buddy ARN?i think he once said he would come back and recant if all went south, well it went south BIG TIME. can you honestly say he wasn't pumping to the board? reread his posts , and there is only one conclusion that can be had .sure, we had folks on the otherside that clearl;y didn't agree and things flew out of control. because of my disagreement with those so called longs I had folks threating to destroy my family , call me every name in the book etc.but by your standards that's all in the past and those that got creamed are old news and who gives a rats #$%$ about them.As for an investment today I think I made it clear to billy in a post a day ago. here I will say it again. I would not average down here, because I think if the yahoo ruling goes south again ,HIPP could see the lows again. if they win there will be plenty of chances to buy in as the stock moves north. if i was along term investor i might lose a double from these lows but heck at least i wont be playing a 90% chance of going down with my capital.As a trader i might start a new position just to play the court case with money that is geared for RISK only positions.say the court case does go south ,i do agree that HIPP has value without the IP and the board here seems to hope for a sale at about a buc is in order. that's a short term play not geared for longs
hey billy I would wager that if your ip stays worthless to most the stock will revist the lows . why buy down here ?do you really think ya wont be able to buy shares all the way up if it goes that way. I would suspect most are gonna dump their losing positions if they ever get to break even or better .the rest of the market is flying ,much better plays to be had.but even I hope for a win cus I would love to cash in my wallpaper shares at higher prices.best of luck billy after all those years of carrying the torch for certain people you deserve it.
that's the attitude I would expect from you.never mind you had folks who still post here today and on other fourms claiming you cant lose on this stock. your only defense for screwing the little guy is well they should have done their dd. if only that could be the case all the time cus then the boys would not have their promotional jobs preying on those less smart.
I believe i have had shares in this company for much longer then you and all the time since ,I watched as your buddies screamed and pumped this stock to the masses and yet not one except ems ever came back to say he was wrong . live in the past ? well maybe the past should not be forgotten and those that screwed all those folks with their big boy pants talk that they knew more then everyone else should not be forgiven. but again Jason its allright if YOU make out in the end, right?its not about me buying shares heck I have made money here. its about those that couldn't average down or who had to sell out because they didn't have the cash or the wherewithal to ride out huge losses and were constantly reassured that that 3dollar investment couldn't lose.
well Jason that's great for you that now at a dollar sale you will clean up.
but for those others who invested what they could at 3bucs, 2 bucs and other insane prices due to the pumping that went on here about the cant lose cases it is not even close to being a rosey play for them.
its really sad
but watching the moms and pops get beaten up is not a concern for you as long as in the end you make out, right?
or on the side of the coin you have paid people to promote stocks.
its all old news at this board
that's why you should do your own dd
everyone here has an agenda to make money .