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izof_texas 170 posts  |  Last Activity: 16 hours ago Member since: Feb 29, 2004
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  • Reply to

    ..Beacuse We Love You -Part I

    by joebernini Jan 25, 2015 4:04 PM
    izof_texas izof_texas 16 hours ago Flag

    " I and others have been trying to educate you intransigent AdadBean Freedom Fighters for free. We came to you in peace and weapon free, with our wisdom, experience, reason and intellect, "

    You mean like THIS, joe?

    [note: CIGX was the ticker for RCPI at the time.]

    ===== [bernini quote]

    joebernini • Jun 18, 2012 2:19 PM

    RJR IS SECRETLY BUYING CIGX

    Folks, Did you know that RJR is secretly buying CIGX, partly one of the reason why we have been rising!

    Mamma mia.

    Me

    joebernini • Jun 18, 2012 1:12 PM

    Reply AD LUCRUM PER SCIENTIA

    Towards Wealth Through Star Scientific.

    Dear Longs,

    The momentum is now on our side and that's why the tide of fortune ebbs and flows......

    We must be strong and prudent, united as one and Unafraid even if the stock retreats a little. If we do this, we will see CIGX flirt with $100/Shr sooner than you think.

    joebernini . Feb 22, 2012 3:35 PM

    LISTEN UP ALL CIGX DIEHARDS:

    You are about to be treated to the mother of all upside NEWS on CIGX, you didn't even dream of. Between now and 6 weeks there will be breaking news that will take the stock to over $50/PPS. If this does not happen within the time frame I am predicting, then, you can ridicule me, mock me,and you can even cast me as an idiot. I am staking my reputation on this,

    ===== [bernini endquote]

    There you have it, folks: JOE'S INVITATION for all to be (as HE put it) "... a Fool and believe in never never land", FOR HIS OWN GAIN.

    Joe also said, "May god bless America and rid of it from parasites, Zombies and dimwits. "

    If and when god (OR God) does so, joe, your absolutely clueless pimping of this stock FOR YOUR OWN GAIN will mean you'll be among the first, and your ridiculous endless ranting accusations of others for doing the same (none of whom can hold a candle to you) should put you at the front of the line. RIGHT OR WRONG, JOE? Let us know.

    And joe did ALL THAT for FREE! Yep, you get what you pay for.

  • Reply to

    To Pricky Ricky

    by francogarabaldi Jan 23, 2015 1:21 PM
    izof_texas izof_texas Jan 23, 2015 2:21 PM Flag

    "Point taken."

    Thanks. THAT IS how it's done (keeping all the political BS off...). A smiling "good day" to you!

  • Reply to

    To Pricky Ricky

    by francogarabaldi Jan 23, 2015 1:21 PM
    izof_texas izof_texas Jan 23, 2015 1:34 PM Flag

    And a smiling "good day" to you, too.

    Somehow we have managed to keep almost all political BS off this board all these years. Any way you (and whoever else) might just let it drop at this point? It's bad enough having to pick through all the garbage left here every day by the pond skyum.

  • Reply to

    To bdmacg

    by monikerguy Jan 22, 2015 9:18 AM
    izof_texas izof_texas Jan 22, 2015 5:45 PM Flag

    Yahoo hasn't made sense since they started "upgrading" yahoo mail in the early 2000s. They shove unwanted, unneeded "upgrades" on everyone, many of which fail to function correctly (from their standpoint, even) for a long time and/or make things worse. You may remember a few years ago when "Search Messages" just quit on this board it took me about 7 weeks of FAXING to them on their main fax number to get them to fix it. This MB is the only reason my eyes see their site any more.

    If they had as many people simply listening to customers' issues as they do working 24 hours a day to "deprove" their product and make customers angry it'd be a pretty good co.

  • izof_texas izof_texas Jan 22, 2015 5:29 PM Flag

    " pimping and milking a SCAM "

    You mean like THIS, joe? Too bad you CANNOT quote any of those you endlessly accuse of doing ANYTHING like THIS:

    MR ALL TIME CHAMPION PIMPER HERE QUOTED ... HIS OWN WORDS. For some reason, joe never quotes others when accusing them of HIS PERFECTED SIN.

    [note: CIGX was the ticker for RCPI at the time.]

    [bernini quote]

    joebernini • Jun 18, 2012 2:19 PM

    RJR IS SECRETLY BUYING CIGX

    Folks, Did you know that RJR is secretly buying CIGX, partly one of the reason why we have been rising!

    Mamma mia.

    Me

    joebernini • Jun 18, 2012 1:12 PM

    Reply AD LUCRUM PER SCIENTIA

    Towards Wealth Through Star Scientific.

    Dear Longs,

    The momentum is now on our side and that's why the tide of fortune ebbs and flows......

    We must be strong and prudent, united as one and Unafraid even if the stock retreats a little. If we do this, we will see CIGX flirt with $100/Shr sooner than you think.

    joebernini . Feb 22, 2012 3:35 PM

    LISTEN UP ALL CIGX DIEHARDS:

    You are about to be treated to the mother of all upside NEWS on CIGX, you didn't even dream of. Between now and 6 weeks there will be breaking news that will take the stock to over $50/PPS. If this does not happen within the time frame I am predicting, then, you can ridicule me, mock me,and you can even cast me as an idiot. I am staking my reputation on this,

    [bernini endquote]

    There you have it, folks: JOE'S INVITATION for all to be (as HE put it) "... a Fool and believe in never never land", FOR HIS OWN GAIN.

    Joe also said, "May god bless America and rid of it from parasites, Zombies and dimwits. "

    If and when god (OR God) does so, joe, your absolutely clueless pimping of this stock FOR YOUR OWN GAIN will mean you'll be among the first, and your ridiculous endless ranting accusations of others for doing the same (none of whom can hold a candle to you) should put you at the front of the line. RIGHT OR WRONG, JOE? Let us know.

  • Reply to

    To bdmacg

    by monikerguy Jan 22, 2015 9:18 AM
    izof_texas izof_texas Jan 22, 2015 9:37 AM Flag

    No, it appears to be true. Depending on which of the two you click to open up the list of posts for the name, there are two different listings of posts. Plus, you can put one on "ignore" and the other still appears. Of course it remains that way for years now. Yahoo never fixes anything.

  • izof_texas izof_texas Jan 20, 2015 3:31 PM Flag

    "Telling it Ike it is,"

    Yeah, that you're an idiot and you refuse to actually quote people whom you endlessly accuse. Your're avoiding the point: that being what YOU said first.

    NOTHING I have ever posted is any evidence of "a compensated pimper/pumper of Star" compared with material YOU have posted, material which I am glad to quote without end to show people just who YOU are. Your own words condemn you, to oblivion in this case, as evidenced by your desperation to get any attention here at all any more. I am always amused that the less attention you get here the more you talk about me. I should consider that a complement. Perhaps I shall.

    Observe, folks, what (a claim of) an IQ of 163 (if you believe that) gets you, folks: a blabbering idiot wasting huge amounts of time begging for attention on a few MBs, and unhappy until he says something to offend most of the people there. That is, one who begs for negative attention everywhere he goes. Envy, anyone?

  • Reply to

    Nobel Prize in Medicine

    by pablo313113 Jan 19, 2015 2:39 PM
    izof_texas izof_texas Jan 20, 2015 2:35 PM Flag

    No, you're the behind.

  • Reply to

    Bringing it back on the market

    by nep2134 Jan 19, 2015 3:16 PM
    izof_texas izof_texas Jan 20, 2015 1:45 PM Flag

    But caffeine was sold as a constituent/ingredient of food (coffee and many other things) AND SO ADVERTISED long long prior to the enactment of the DSHEA. You need to know more about or pay more attention to the regs. Virtually no one had ever heard of anatabine until Star started up with it in 2010. Etc.

    FDA points out that because an IND was filed on it prior to its legal marketing as a supplement it CANNOT BE SOLD AS A SUPPLEMENT.

  • Reply to

    acetaminophen - Tylenol

    by nep2134 Jan 18, 2015 3:01 AM
    izof_texas izof_texas Jan 19, 2015 12:22 PM Flag

    Just to note that I appreciate much of what you have posted in this line, but took time to critique when I saw incomplete relevancy. Thanks for your efforts.

    When "trying to figure" the FDA, you have to realize that with big-corporate influence (read actually: CONTROL) rampant in all of our government due to lobbying of lawmakers (and election of them with money, thanks to "Citizens United" decisions), agencies like FDA are designed to imperfectly perform their stated tasks, with "imperfections" favoring, generally, the interested large corporations.

    If you're tired of all that, take care of whom you elect to Congress and President (the latter, avoiding those who will appoint SC judges who will likely vote to "LET THE MONEY ROLL" when it comes to influencing government).

  • izof_texas izof_texas Jan 19, 2015 12:05 PM Flag

    Hey, rabid mac: why did you append this reply to my post (has nothing to do with my post) and why did it take you two tries to do so? Your recent posts indicate you ought to give a serious thought to whatever it is you are taking, or smoking.

  • izof_texas izof_texas Jan 19, 2015 11:57 AM Flag

    " pimping strategies "

    (Self-described idiot joe returns for more : )

    You mean like THIS, joe? Too bad you CANNOT quote any of those you endlessly accuse of doing ANYTHING like THIS:

    MR ALL TIME CHAMPION PIMPER HERE QUOTED ... HIS OWN WORDS. For some reason, joe never quotes others when accusing them of HIS PERFECTED SIN.

    [note: CIGX was the ticker for RCPI at the time.]

    [bernini quote]

    joebernini • Jun 18, 2012 2:19 PM

    RJR IS SECRETLY BUYING CIGX

    Folks, Did you know that RJR is secretly buying CIGX, partly one of the reason why we have been rising!

    Mamma mia.

    Me

    joebernini • Jun 18, 2012 1:12 PM

    Reply AD LUCRUM PER SCIENTIA

    Towards Wealth Through Star Scientific.

    Dear Longs,

    The momentum is now on our side and that's why the tide of fortune ebbs and flows......

    We must be strong and prudent, united as one and Unafraid even if the stock retreats a little. If we do this, we will see CIGX flirt with $100/Shr sooner than you think.

    joebernini . Feb 22, 2012 3:35 PM

    LISTEN UP ALL CIGX DIEHARDS:

    You are about to be treated to the mother of all upside NEWS on CIGX, you didn't even dream of. Between now and 6 weeks there will be breaking news that will take the stock to over $50/PPS. If this does not happen within the time frame I am predicting, then, you can ridicule me, mock me,and you can even cast me as an idiot. I am staking my reputation on this,

    [bernini endquote]

    There you have it, folks: JOE'S INVITATION for all to be (as HE put it) "... a Fool and believe in never never land", FOR HIS OWN GAIN.

    Joe also said, "May god bless America and rid of it from parasites, Zombies and dimwits. "

    If and when god (OR God) does so, joe, your absolutely clueless pimping of this stock FOR YOUR OWN GAIN will mean you'll be among the first, and your ridiculous endless ranting accusations of others for doing the same (none of whom can hold a candle to you) should put you at the front of the line. RIGHT OR WRONG, JOE? Let us know.

  • izof_texas izof_texas Jan 19, 2015 11:52 AM Flag

    Your claim of "wondering" is not convincing of actual mental activity, especially in view of the first sentence (whattt???).

  • izof_texas izof_texas Jan 19, 2015 11:49 AM Flag

    "a compensated pimper/pumper of Star"

    I don't know who izoff is, but are YOU accusing ANYONE of being ANYTHING like THIS COMPLETE MORON? You are required to quote him or her if you so claim, MORON.

    =====

    Re: WHY $40 PER SHARE VALUATION? 29-Sep-08 11:53 pm

    Yes he [speaking of former CEO Williams] did and saw it run up to $400 per share. I have met Jonnie and he is no bull@#$%. Very well connected and quite a brilliant guy. He has a lot of top advisors around him including Carter Philips. He is also well connected in the FDA. Just look what they are doing in Pharma!

    It appears to me that you know very little about this company and its principals. While I know a lot about the science and players and can highly recommend the stock and company, you should not invest in things you know very little about ...

    Drumbuss

    ===== and from another post, same thread

    That is why I say back up the truck. I know a number of hedge funds recently in like Hound are increasing their positions. Once WS gets wind of this, the stock is definitely gonna soar. Jonnie did it for Lasik and I think he will do it again for Star.

    Drumbuss

  • izof_texas izof_texas Jan 18, 2015 1:42 PM Flag

    "The FDA is making new rules for all supplements just to make sure anatabloc stays off the market."

    The FDA has been promising/threatening to clarify its stance on the issues that came up with anatabine citrate for more than 3 times longer (ten years) than it had been on the market, and other manufacturers had already been through what Star went through with anatabine and FDA. Star/anatabine was at the end of the line.

  • Reply to

    FDA Hands Tied in Powdered Caffeine Abuse Cases

    by nep2134 Jan 18, 2015 3:48 AM
    izof_texas izof_texas Jan 18, 2015 1:37 PM Flag

    The other aspect where comparison is lacked (caffeine/anatabine) is that manufacturers of caffeine products are not making any claims (the major ones at least) to be treating or curing illness/disease. Being asleep is not considered to be one of those. Anatabine citrate clearly is useful for treating states of illness/disease. That IS what it does, very well.

  • Reply to

    FDA Hands Tied in Powdered Caffeine Abuse Cases

    by nep2134 Jan 18, 2015 3:48 AM
    izof_texas izof_texas Jan 18, 2015 1:32 PM Flag

    Anatabloc was apparently taken off the market by RCPI because The FDA stated its opinion that it must be considered (by them) as a drug. That is so said they, because someone filed an IND for anatabine before it was LEGALLY (according to FDA, by their "take" on rules and regs). In fact both INDs for anatabine citrate (one admittedly by STAR) were so filed. According to rules and regs, a substance for which an IND has been filed cannot be used in a supplement.

    There was certainly some legal wiggle room there to be sure, but maybe 50/50 and a long battle would have ensued. It became obvious that without the ability to "fudge" the "claims" issue, after FDA made them shut down with the "back door claims" mode, plus all the negative publicity from unrelated events, the drug development route would be the sure winner in terms of being able to actively promote the worth of the product and what it does ... and thus sell it

    The decision to change course was a painful one but an excellent one in my view, in that it was not only the clear choice but the only practical one. They surely did not want to be fighting FDA over supplementation with it, all the while asking FDA to approve it as a drug. Think now: how likely was it that FDA would allow (or not fight vigorously) the same substance to be both a supplement and a drug, after taking the position they stated in "the letter"?

    This way you let FDA win by getting done what you needed to do in the first place (drug development ... ALWAYS a part of the plan for anatabine citrate) ... in the end a win-win situation with great positive consequences, both in the U.S. and in foreign markets. Unlike supplements, there is some sense of regulatory uniformity across borders re drugs.

    In sum, the bad publicity from other quarters bashed interest in the supplement. the clear FDA rules made positive publicity (to combat that) impossible, and there was no other path down which to go except one that had been planned from the beginning.

  • Reply to

    Why?

    by jk224_pmc Jan 13, 2015 11:01 AM
    izof_texas izof_texas Jan 13, 2015 11:42 AM Flag

    So, you will give no credit for timelines that were met? Do you have no understanding still that in corporate circles, just as with you and me, "timelines" are at best an honest estimate of what can be HOPED for under a set of circumstances? Were you able to meet all of your time estimates you gave to your bosses, your spouses, your friends?

    Please inform me of a Crohn's "study". I don't think anyone tries to sell a real company with a "news segment".

    Why will not people accept that

    (1) this is well known to be one of the most manipulated stocks on the market (by all kinds of interests), and that has been true for a decade (and we have discussed it here abundantly); This simple presentation was NOT an event to more than double the value of this stock, but for this and (2), especially (2).

    (2) aiding the manipulators are day traders who inevitably play "chicken" with the stock, running up to any pre-announced presumed-positive event. There are hundreds of other such day trade plays and they all have this same pattern.

    And too I wonder why there are always the hangers on who think themselves justified to expect that every new peak should hold, right to the tippy top. If the stock settles to .18 now that will be about a 40% gain over the recent low, on virtually no news. Even if not, where is the surprise? I suppose the only "excuse" some had was that some hoped for some kind of "big announcement" (for no reason). Well, if so it didn't happen, and those persons were wrong in THEIR expectations.

    Rather than "slam" I hope this is a reasonable counter to your lament ... my lament. I wonder most of all why someone would stay invested in this stock and keep displaying a lack of understanding as to what can be expected realistically both as to the pace of accomplishing complex objectives and as to the effects of events, or near non-events as this predictably was, on the share price. If the stock continually disappoints you, sell it (I say again and again).

  • Reply to

    webcast ... working for anyone else?

    by izof_texas Jan 12, 2015 7:05 PM
    izof_texas izof_texas Jan 12, 2015 7:31 PM Flag

    Thanks. At first I was trying to look at it on an Android device but think that's a no go ... never got to the signup part. Went back to windows device and got what you report. Thanks again.

  • OK, now looks like maybe beginning?

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