Thre isn't anyone coming back, we are all speaking to each other and the curtains have been lifted off the eyes of retirees.
Question to ask is, "How long has Team PIMCO been hiding behind disclaimers?" Just saying.
This talente team that collects 1.24% in fees will now have to put down the $105 cigars,roll up their shirt sleeves and start working for their fees because news is spreading rather quick and the outflow is catastrophical. The BOND KING IS DEAD, LONG LIVE THE BOND KING.
The PIMCO EMPIRE now is cracking and these are not superficial cracks are they?
Next time Liz Capo McCormick I hope Scarlet #$%$ and Michael McKee ask REAL quesitons investors want to know from the self proclaimed guys who think moving Billions doesn't move markets but it is actually they who move markets what they are doing to capitalize on the absurd premiums that are tagged on to their funds which require in many cases over 3 years to finally break even with the NAV to price an investor pays to purchase that fund.
These great minds must have some formula to put together to capitalize on this massive DIVERGENCE in the charts NAV vs PREMIUM ? Or are those questions off limits to get them on your show? You are not much on the side of hard nosed question journalists with integrity and offering true insight to your viewers and readers?
Bloomberg and CNBC producers should be ashamed of themselves . TIme to stop having steak lunches with such men and ask real questions? Just saying.
Moving forward the US Citizen shall and is going to be where the BUCK STOPS!! please prepare to have your congressional list of all the committee members of the 113 congress that failed us and continue to fail us regarding budget crisis and debt ceiling. A CEO would fire their CFO if he allowed their credit rating to fall. WE must act now with extreme prejudice to puge this entire colluding committee that is draining the greatness of this country for their own greed. tic toc
The President isn't the CEO of this country, we are the CEO of this country, we are the BOD we are the will and conscience of this nation, not a banker, not puppet infront of a camera trained to read a tele prompter, we the US Citizen. Tis time we flex and shake this establishment of corruption. All bets will be off when the US Citizen takes control once again. Local non-Republican and non-Democrat party members will be elevated to these newly vacated positions. Somewhat of a political COUP.
Mr. President please nail this to the doors of Congress.
Hopefully the CIA,FBI,Homeland Security and NSA will all be regulating to make sure a just and legal election is being held at all times moving forward for all political candidates. All of you who are such patriots will need to step up and not be good soldiers but great citizens?
This delusional Congress thinks we are going to forget all of the tragedy and travesties that have befallen on the US Citizen in the past 2 centuries. Communication is wide open among us all and tyranny will always be overcome by the sheer masses of a collective seeking justice and a better way of life for their families than the one that has been relegated to us by this Congress,Judicial Branch,carreer lobbyist,career politicans and Corp America.
"The Republican Party receives a 30-63 percent favorable rating, marking both a record-low favorable and record-high unfavorable in a Fox News poll. The party’s favorability is down 13 percentage points from a year ago (43 percent in September 2012).
The Democratic Party’s favorability stands at 43 percent -- down seven points from last year.
In addition, a new high of 75 percent of voters disapprove of the job Republicans in Congress are doing. That’s up nine points since August. Disapproval of Democrats went up just two points during the same time period.
Thirty-three percent of voters approve of the job Democrats in Congress are doing, while 20 percent approve of Republicans.
Meanwhile, more voters are extremely or very “frustrated and upset” with congressional Republicans, (55 percent) than with congressional Democrats (46 percent) or with members of the tea party in Congress (45 percent).
This all leads to an eight-point Democratic advantage on what’s called the generic ballot. The poll shows that when voters are asked how they would vote if the Congressional election were held today, 45 percent would vote for the Democratic candidate in their district and 37 percent the Republican candidates"
We do know ING isn't buying back their shares in any large blocks that is for certain.
ING managment doesn't make sound business decisions obviously since they have completely abanandoned the dividend for the past 5 years? Truth be told.
You will have to verify if this is the team to blame, you know how deceptive these bankers can be when trying to find their trail? They are never past even putting in a patsie as the new CEO to insulate themselves further. Just saying, vefiry if ING Goupe is the parent company whose board is listed below.
Jeroen van der Veer Chairman of the Supervisory Board
Ralph Hamers Chief Executive Officer and Chairman of the Executive Board
Peter A.F.W. Elverding Vice Chairman of the Supervisory Board
Patrick G. Flynn Member of the Executive Board, Chief Financial Officer
Lard Friese Vice Chairman of ING Insurance
Wilfred G Nagel Member of the Management Board, Chief Risk Officer
Tineke J.P. Bahlmann Member of the Supervisory Board
Henk W. Breukink Member of the Supervisory Board
Jan H. Holsboer Member of the Supervisory Board
Joost Ch.L. Kuiper Member of the Supervisory Board
or wait what happend when AGNC cut the dividend the first time stating, there is no issue we just want more cash in the coffer since then how many times has the dividend been cut and bout to be cut again? hmmmn.
that would be jforrus, i wonder if you are the same batch of brokers that destroyed WDC, 2 years ago or sponsored the great collusion take over by VTR of Cogdell Spencer Inc and screwing the long time investors out...just saying. we get it.
you call stealing our money "the game", we got it.
I meant a thumbs up for that statement yahutag.
oh yeah didn't this insider buy at $32, didn't work out to well? was that to throw the SEC off the track.
WILKUS MALON Officer 02/11/2013 Buy direct 15,500 32.3100 25,000
Why on earth did ING buy IGD?
Did they need to have a tax write off and needed to show LOSSES on the books? Serious.
They kept the failing IGD team intact also, why? The entire board should have been dismantled.
That is the question to ask?
They didn't live up to that moniker earlier, hopefully the BRILLIANT minds of TEAM PIMCO can recall what their description means, else change it, real simple, drop the "capital preservation" part. JUST SAYING.
Wow! I remember 3 years ago they were destroying WDC and the buisness model as well as the product it self.
What massive price rigging and collusion was and does go on with this ticker.
Where was the SEC and is it blind to it all?
Pretty obvious they are going to take it to, near $90 and then back down to $60 and ultimately $40?
That is what they do! They tell you "over valued" which means we are going to take profits and drive the weak hands out and collude to make more money then we would normally, this is how the rigged game works.
Wake up ! They didn't believe me on the COH boards.
Quick question is SBUX raising their dividend to $0.34? That would be a tell tale for you to buying or not. stay away in the meantime until the RIGGED GAME finishes doing what it does.
How is it looking?
What new lies are they preaching at the pulpit?
Who is the new Messiah at the helm? What number is this in the past 10 years, 3 or 4?
Is Milner dead? Did he die of shame? Just asking! :)
DB are we all still fish on a fish hook? I use "we" so not to insult you but I thank god sold out before the reverse split?
Who is the new loser at the helm? What train of lies and BS is spewing only to later hide behind the "disclaimer" that allows them to be irresponsible during their sermon serenading press conference?
I wouldn't pay a dime over $7.80 if you really must and then I wouldn't add until $4.15 odds are they are going to play the BUYOUT game. (they haven't increased the dividend,no longer an aristocrat,the business model was pretty crumby and management BLOWS if they couldn't comeback after 5 years). Klause would admit to it in private and probably has I suspect.
Where you buy at $11 then drop then they the colluding brokers drop the pps to $4 where they LOAD up and then someone comes in buys them at 30% premium, therefore COMPLETELY SHAFTING the long time holder especially those who have accumulating all those shares for so many years. Seriously do you think they are going to let you become BILLIONAIRES over night?
I have to explained the rigged game to you? I guess SAC Capital just decided to pay $1.2B and JP Morgan the crooks there decided to pay $13B (it is safe to call them crooks? the government is on it as well? we certainly don't seem to be seeing this $13B fine? where is it going? what collusion?)
Please see "COGDELL SPENCER INC." , the last 2 CEO had some incredible timing to completely and thoroughly shaft their longtime investors. They seemed to play the above mentioned game. How the SEC turned a blind eye to it we will never know.
My theory and I am pretty good with theories.
Team PIMCO/ALLIANZ is still 30% shy of the premium high.
Current Premium is 51%
What was their premium all time high? 83%?
All that talent you want and you have to have funds that retain NAV and maintain distribution otherwise why bother calling yourself..... the self proclaimed "Bond King". I can be the BOND KING as well if I just pay you back with the 90 Day Interest Free formula. lol Just saying.