ooops i didn't run spell check but i did run the math and tic toc here comes 9.
Bill and Mo have continously failed you for the past 4 years, if your bleeding red or just break even for the past 4 years, you should realize that yourself and warn others.
Time for my meds since I don't like to loose money while I pay a mangement fees to help everyone else but the normal unsophisticated investor make money.
FLASH NEWS J.O. 90% of the investors are unsophisticated investors who the US Governement has thrown to the wolves. hahahhahaha!!
Which one will be shoving it deep in you in today? hahhaha!! I slay myself.
You should seriously look into MANAGEMENT FEE this fund charges, it is almost an astronomical 3%.
Bill Gross, Mo E. and Hansie S. afford $15K SUITS via your fees while PIMCO entire team fails to punish the colluding brokers who bid their pps up in some cases 80% in premium over NAV.
Please share such topics of conversation with others at the dinner table. They collude upon lies, we shall collude upon the truth. Never be ashamed to admit you lost money becuase of poor managers who have lost the GOLDEN RULE of income investing, STABILITY AND CONSISTENCY regarding PPS and Dividends respectively. You can not have either with out the other else all it is just a PONZI LIKE STRUCTURE.
Now go forth and email the truth and reason to friends. Share such topics on the Yahoo Message "DIA" board as well.
Let us burn down houses whose masters have betrayed their investors, next should be GABELLI with his crazy fees. He gives you a $1 in profits off of $10 but takes $0.80 in fees. hahahaha!! what a F'n A HOLE you have to be to let someone take advantage of you as such.
2.28% FEE !! OMFG this BILL GROSS AND MO. E WILL ROB anyone blind anyway then can.
I guess that is how you afford $15K SUITS.
Someone should get a twitter account and tweet Bill #$%$ DUDE SERIOUSLY who is still paying for your failing advice.
Yeah you won awards but at the end of the day you took way too much in fees.
i owned it and sold out a $31 since BIll and Mo aren't doing there job you have to be pro-active.
PRIME EXAMPLE of what will be the laws of convergence and divergence for PHK pps vs. NAV, except that will mark the complete annihilation of the fund when that happens and the dividend cut will surely be announced.
I would AVOID PIMCO they really have lost focus on the objective of their clients. RUN to an ETF, all the crooks of collusion can't rape you all at once.
PPS STABILITY and DIVIDEND CONSISTENCY is PARAMOUNT for Retirees.
Need both otherwise it is just a psuedo-ponzi scheme, if not an actual ponzi structure.
Can't wait to see the crazy responses to this one. The perma bulls on this board every day with each response prove to be more whack with every post.
WATCH AND LEARN!! shhh....be very quiet and read. :)
So one or two of you can do a laplace tranfor perhaps even write a truth table or two but you can't figure out you need a larger screen to attract customers. WHAT F'n DB this team truly is and is it colluding to keep it's pps down. An entire team can't be this #$%$? can they? wow.
Arthur D. Levinson Ph.D. Independent Chairman of the Board
Timothy D. Cook Chief Executive Officer, Director
Peter Oppenheimer Chief Financial Officer, Principal Financial Officer, Senior Vice President, Principal Accounting Officer
D. Bruce Sewell Senior Vice President, General Counsel, Secretary
Philip W Schiller Senior Vice President - Worldwide Marketing
Eduardo H. Cue Senior Vice President - Internet Software and Services
Craig Federighi Senior Vice President - Software Engineering
Robert J. Mansfield Senior Vice President - Technologies
Daniel Riccio Senior Vice President - Hardware Engineering
Jeff E. Williams
Cheers to you sally. i hope you avoid PIMCO, Cornerstone and Gabelli Crew, those Gabelli boys charge so much in fees they actually wipe out your profits.
As for HYF...hahahahhah!! sorry..I crack up when I see a fund that describes itself with the terms "capital preservation" but takes an over 6% decline in 30 days. JUST SAYING.
:The Fund seeks high current income with capital preservation through investment in non investment grade income producing debt securities, equity securities that are attached to debt securities and emerging markets securities"
HYG would be a better bet put your money where they collude with each other for a profit.
They are all crooks who collude but atleast you don't have to worry about a fund manager and his team not doing the correct thing.
iShares iBoxx $ High Yield Corporate Bond Fund (the Fund) seeks investment results, which correspond to the price and yield performance of the iBoxx $ Liquid High Yield Index (the Index). The Index is a rules-based index consisting of liquid United States dollar-denominated, high yield corporate bonds for sale in the United States, as determined by Index provider. The Index is designed to provide a representation of the United States dollar-denominated high yield corporate bonds market. The Fund invests in sectors, such as consumer service, oil and gas, financials, telecommunication, industrials, healthcare, technology, basic materials, utilities and consumer goods. The investment advisor of the Fund is BlackRock Fund Advisors (BFA)."
I do not own any of HYG though for the record.
a. does that link have a virus?
b. I thought about it jedgar (didn't you wear dresses in private, violate peoples civil rights and a confirmed racist just like Elvis Presley?) but you guys are feasting off off stupid investors. so if i can kick them in the sack and get their juices flowing to ask questions like, is PIMCO worth a 77%, is Bill Gross and his team worth it? Is this a pps a BUBBLE? Is PIMCO management so inept that they can not capitalize on a BUBBLE or are they COLLUDING with brokers? Are they just as bad as GODLMAN SACH and abuse their investors as if they are "muppets"?
c. it is fun watching BILLIONS being wiped out when you collude with other upon the truth.
d. Maybe Willy and Mo will grow a sack? JUST SAYING and do what they should have done 4 years ago.
e. PONZI like structure?
f. perhaps we can DESTROY a few psuedo-journalists.
Bob if there were more patriots like me...
a. we would be dragging your brethren out by their ears out of congress and the senate to explain insider trading.
b. we would be dragging your brethren out by their ears out of Barclays' to size their nooses
c. we would be dragging your brethren Jon Corzine to look for the $1.6B
d .we would be dragging your brethren out by their ears with the entire BOD of Directors from Cogdwell and Spencer Inc and their deal with VENTAS.
e. we would be dragging your brethren out by their ears why so many pilots had to die before they corrected the latest F class jets breathing and carbon monoxide poisioning.
f.we would be dragging your brethren out by their ears to figure out why we spent $10T and found no WMD.
g. we would be dragging your brethren out by their ears for another 1000 issues.
h. we would be dragging your brethren out by their ears for putting US CITIZENS retirment future in the hands of crooks, thieves, swindlers, investment banker who litter Wall St. while they rob and steal from the parents and grand parents of those they send out to die.
You should pray patriots like us never get into power.
Yes and PIMCO if they are so great why didn't they capitalize on the 35% plus premiums of their price share. See PHK with its 80% premium and the slide it is taking and will continue to take.
Be cautious and if not out right avoid PIMCO fund family.
Please give us a BREAK and just repeat this...
They call "the game", stealing our money.
A. There is no ticker "HYZ".
B. "A dividend cut is just a bump", ummmmn, I will not be harsh but kind. To a retiree a dividend is paramount as much as maintaing price per share, else ROC will give an retiree who is looking to live off of dividends in the shallows with the sharks where they always attack.
C. YOUR F'ng IDIOT, just like what BILL GROSS, MOHAMAD eL-Erian and Hans Kertess think the PHK,PTY,PFN,PFL investors to be, playing the ponzi-like structure of juggling and paying out dividends. FLAHS NEW YOUR BEING EXPOSED, when is your ENTIRE PIMCO team going to display the talent that these permabull investors have been cheerleading others to pay.
PHK is NEVER going to see $14 RANGE AGAIN and you 3 ROYALLY screwed your investors by not capitalizing on the BUBBLE, all those degree and your IDIOTS or your colluding with the brokerage houses? WHICH IS IT?
When you perma bulls stop typing BS I will stop repeating myself, DEAL?
Please share such topics of conversation with others at the dinner table.
Easy they can't find any new blood to drive pps up so the easiest thing to do is buy puts and sell shares and have a double whammy of profits. duh!!!
You do know they call this "the game" aka stealing your money.
Because Mo and WIlly will not do their jobs.
The PIMCO team refuses the punish the colluding brokers who have bid this ticker and all of the other PIIMCO tickers to PREMIUM BUBBLE STAUS.
SIMPLE as that, foget the rest of the mumbojumbo the PIMCO team is putting out and or what the perma bulls are posting.
Please share such topics of conversation with others at the dinner table.
What is going on with them?
The PIMCO team failed to punish fake volume created by the colluding brokers.
The PIMCO team has failed to capitalize on the massive premiums for their funds. They are professionals who must be able to recognize a BUBBLE PREMIUM and capitalize on it. They call themselves the most talented team, the best of the best? You failed your investors
Please share such topics of conversation with others at the dinner table. Wall St. players collude upon the lies, we shall collude upon the truth. Please do not be embarassed for your own past mistakes but let us turn a page and focus on identifying and destroying the collusion.
HEAD MUPPET :)
They constantly fail to protect their investors from the collusion of fake volume and bidding up pps of their ticker.
FAILURE at every corner, one can extrapolate such will be the case for this ticker as it is for PHK,PTY, PFN...the list goes on forever.
Please share such topics of conversation with others at the dinner table. They collude upon lies we shall collude upon the truth. Fight thru the shame and embarassement of being taken and spread the word to other investors.
Flash news dumfuckastan just realize fund go from $22 to $18 in 8 days while entire market, up or down 25% also?
They are stealing from you.
Please share this thread for others to laugh and spread the message to ABANDON THE PIMCO SHIP of colluding brokers.
don't be angry at me keemosabeeee!! lol
blame will, mo and hansie mne in $10K suits for F'ng your accounts over into the -20% range for the year.
now you go squat sqaw and mail them in brown bag present of chocolates and thank them for making big account into smaller account while they live fat off buffallo and you eat small squirrel.
good journey pale man. :)
Curl, I thought we agreed to put each other on "ignore", I viewed this board before I signed in and saw your post. lol
So I will reply.
1. The JERK are you PERMA BULLS who after seeing this ticker on a decline and loosing out to the major indicies (spell and grammar check me) insist that BILL GROSS, MO and HANSIE actually merit a salary the size they are receiving. Get off his nut and ask him to MAN UP and start EARNING what he is cashing from investors.
2. Village IDIOT? hhahahaha!! If there is a new definition for idiot, they yes. A person who does not invest in a ticker that is underperfroming the rest of the market by a -20%!!! YES I AM THE IDIOT, THE VILLAGE IDIOT. hahahahah!! while your bleeding out in the RED for YTD and wearing the honor badge!! Way to go GOVERNOR! your believe in a fund manager that refuses to punish the collusion that SURROUNDS his fund families. If BIll GROSS, Mo and HANSIE are HONEST men looking out for ALL of their clients and not treating them like GOLDMAN SACHS MUPPETS (another great pedigree fund exposed as being nothing more then abusing their clietns, that never happens?! hahahha!) they had over a year to capitalize on it. Ummn, what is the amount of time a fund manager needs to give to the SEC to declare intentions to sell shares? Give us some real information instead of the 4th grade lunch room barbs you fling to anyone trying to expose a lousy TEAM. Just Saying! :)
3. Tell us the page number on the prospectus you can find out the flow of money in/out of the fund?
4. Explain to us how you have a CEF which issues new shares every month? hahahahha!!!
VILLAGE IDIOT ! Cheers mate! Hopefully you and the PIMCO team do not run out spending OUR money. F it ! Get the 2003 Dom, Vintage my SSSS!! lol
All day and all night until this team burns to the ground and starts doing right by its investors, knowing the collusion my money is on them burning into the ground, FASTESTway for WALL ST. CROOKS to extract cash.
This guys is an idiot.
He thinks you should be buying at a 77% premium or at a 44% premium just to collect that "vig" while you cough up a 7% loss in 5 weeks. What an A HOLE and the rest of these perma bulls.
I guess he thinks he is a sophisticted investor! Hahahhahahahhaha!!! ROFMAO!! OLE MAN McGOOOO!!!!
take it like a man!! brace yourself lads for the implosion of PIMCO.
1% percent a month in dividend and 2.5% drop in pps per month doesn't sound like a great deal does it? somehow these men think I belong in an asylum for not accepting that as a good deal.
Bill, Mo and Hansie want to bend you over.