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jforuus 277 posts  |  Last Activity: May 21, 2013 2:52 PM Member since: May 28, 2003
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  • jforuus jforuus May 21, 2013 2:52 PM Flag

    I would dump all the shares of PTY and warn others and not look back.

    Head to a MLP where it is in the interest in all parties, including BOD, Management as well as investors for them to not play games or pps manipulation and just simply pay out 90% of the earnings to ALL shareholders, without paying a fee for a failing product.

    TRUTH BE TOLD; something they don't want you to realize.

    Please share such topics of conversation with others.

  • jforuus jforuus May 21, 2013 2:45 PM Flag

    My bet is there is no explanantion, they have distributed out at the top of the 20% premium scale and driving the pps back down to start the cycle over again.

    These are the reasons why you should be sharing such dialogue with others over the dinner table and not be ashamed of being caught in the shannigans of "the game", aka stealing our money.

  • jforuus jforuus May 21, 2013 2:43 PM Flag

    Does PIMCO engage their shareholders with information? Nothing more then general observations and commentery on the great Bill Gross and Mo E. TV circuit.

    The website they refer you to is Allianz, who is nothing more then their accountants.

    I can't find anything from the NASDAQ site itself or PIMCO home page.

    Perhaps the 48% leverage is starting to bite them in the rear?

    Another question to ask is, are they increasing their fees? I can't find their fee schedule any longer.

  • Reply to

    Breaking,.. out to upside??

    by doughav Apr 24, 2013 12:50 PM
    jforuus jforuus May 21, 2013 10:14 AM Flag

    what break out..lol

    Slick WIlly, Hans and Mo E. can't figure out they are working for shareholders not brokers.

    STOP rewarding the collusion on the premium and start capitalizing on it for the investors and not just for your own stakes.

    Jeez Mario Gabelli FUND formula of driving the pps up and taking most oft he profits in fees, would be better.

  • Reply to

    The answer for how much of a pullback...

    by jforuus May 17, 2013 10:47 PM
    jforuus jforuus May 21, 2013 10:11 AM Flag

    Thanks curl..you ARE welcome..lol

    Now answer the question? You can't you POS, can you.

    But I assure you anyone investing more then $10K in this ticker is starting to look into it as you play english teacher..lol

    Thanks for making the point.

    Now run along and keep living off of Daddy's money.

  • Reply to

    The answer for how much of a pullback...

    by jforuus May 17, 2013 10:47 PM
    jforuus jforuus May 21, 2013 9:13 AM Flag

    Low $18 for this ticker...don't worry slick willy NAV does not get affected if it trades above or below NAV.

    They clearly do not punish the collusion among their tickers.

    Why aren't they buying and selling their own tickers and selling out at insane premiums, ask them that at the next CC?

    Oh yeah they don't hold CC...lol.

    Jeez.

  • Reply to

    The answer for how much of a pullback...

    by jforuus May 17, 2013 10:47 PM
    jforuus jforuus May 21, 2013 9:10 AM Flag

    tell you what then Curl Rove..lol

    what page on the prospectus can you find how many shares have been bought via the DRIP?

    Can you please tell us also which way the trend has been going for the last 7 qtrs?

    You should know the trend that the big boys are doing..since you know usually they dictate pps rise or drop. Wouldn't you want to be buying and using the DRIP when they are and just stacking cash when they plan on dropping the pps?

    Let us share topics of discussion that paint the truth regarding tickers rather then such juvenile behavior, iiiiiiiii am sorry I didn't spell correctly. hahhaah!!!! you thieves make me laugh.

    Lets see what response curl or his merry band of grammar patrol come up with.

    The math is what those who read this board are interested in, Curl, THE MATH!!

    The rest of you readers should start putting men who can't answer questions such as these in a public forum on IGNORE! do you understand they are nothing more then agents of confusion who are here to play "the game" called stealing your money.

    Your WELCOME, you should start researching the archives of all income investing tickers you own....post the your findings on that board and the DIA board itself.

    When was the last time CURL or his men gave you insight to ask such questions aside to discredit one on grammar.

    Curl I have many MATH jokes if you want hear them. lol What a DB. :)

  • They have raped so many investors and colluded to bankrupt so many and drive others pps over 95% losses and now the phone calls have gone out to start creating "fake volume". As the people in your families what that is and then start polishing your rod. :)

    Please share such topics of conversation with others, collude upon the truth as the collude upon the lies. Discuss such topics of conversation at the dinner table.

  • Reply to

    The TRUE MATH of this rally and past 5 years.

    by jforuus May 20, 2013 9:26 AM
    jforuus jforuus May 21, 2013 8:51 AM Flag

    Not whining, we are illuminating the train and want to crush the cockroaches that surround us.

    You know that and you discredit yourself with such comments.

  • jforuus jforuus May 20, 2013 2:12 PM Flag

    Please google "Bill Gross, El and Consuelo Mack", I think they were both on and letting you know where they stand on their funds and how they precieve the pps and the premium. Find the transcript it will help make it all clear for you, from the horses mouth.

    Furthermore, google "El, fake volume, squawk box". If you find that transcript, 3 to 5 weeks ago, I forget now, he expresses his concern about brokers colluding without saying the world collusion.

    Don't take anyones word for it, research it, I don't fabricate or exaggerate such topics of conversation.

    Bob, I am not saying Pimco isn't good, I am saying that the brokers have been colluding far too long without Bill or El actually dropping the hammer on them, which they can but choose not to.

  • Reply to

    The answer for how much of a pullback...

    by jforuus May 17, 2013 10:47 PM
    jforuus jforuus May 20, 2013 1:37 PM Flag

    SERIOUSLY...look through the history and try to find any other post they have authored...

    The truth rattles the foundations of lies and collusions.

    Tell your friends who call stealing our money, "The game", they are on notice.

    Run spell check for me boys. :)

  • Reply to

    The answer for how much of a pullback...

    by jforuus May 17, 2013 10:47 PM
    jforuus jforuus May 20, 2013 1:25 PM Flag

    i am sorry i let smaller lesser men like you worry about proper grammar and spelling....

    the rest of you watch for wolves like these, never seen them post once on this board but they are all concerened though about the truth being written regarding their fleecing machine?!??! did i get the i beore e or is it e before i correct...lol

  • Reply to

    The TRUE MATH of this rally and past 5 years.

    by jforuus May 20, 2013 9:26 AM
    jforuus jforuus May 20, 2013 10:44 AM Flag

    if you think there is no collusion...

    prime expample...the press is in on it...

    Reuters: May 13,2013
    SolarCity quarterly loss bigger than expected, shares drop.

    Check out the price action, it is unreal the games they play. lol

  • Clearly the pps has diverged too far from the 200dma.

    "the game" is stealing your money.

    I would sell and not look back until it breaks below the 200dma, till then F'em.

    They are playing games with financials clearly as well.

    The BOD needs to speak with the CFO, unless they are ..well you know..cheating us.

  • Reply to

    The TRUE MATH of this rally and past 5 years.

    by jforuus May 20, 2013 9:26 AM
    jforuus jforuus May 20, 2013 9:36 AM Flag

    They are too busy trying to confuse you with terrorist plots, Korea and China are the enemies...

    Creating an agency with a nice name like "HOMELAND SECURITY"....

    c'mon give us a F'ng break!

    You know they did that in the CCCP - KGB, Germany - SS and many others in AFRICA who carried out genocide.

    If history teaches us anything, men in power must be removed by removing your children from their hands before we the parents and grandparents make one last ditch effort to protect our children and their futures.

    Hollywood needs to stop playing into this "Olympus Has Fallen" type movies they are using you. Why don't they concentrate of movies like "super size" or expose one career politician a year in a movie? that would be doing your civic duty...take the loss at the box office and spread the truth, use their tactics and loopholes on them.

    Mr. President please post this on the doors of Congress so they do not ask the question, "why?" later on when they are being tried in tribunals and their accumulated family wealth being striped from them. The US Citizen is on the precipice of a great awakening with intelligentsia abound. There will be no phones calls to be made to stop the rioting, not this time I fear, since man's nature is always to turn into violence.

    For the record I do not advocate such violence.

    Please copy and paste this post to friends and family, let us collude upon the truth while these men play "the game" what they call STEALING OUR MONEY or else snuff your children (future) in their bed and give your grandparents a kick in the head and tel them to "get back to work"!

  • 5 Years X 3 Billion people = 15 Billion Years!

    That is how you do the math.

    Now bringing the market back to previous highs ....

    Well now increase the money supply by 50% as they have...

    15 Billion Years * 1.5= 22.5 Billion Years.

    Now how do they propose to give that back to us? They don't, they hope the simpletons can not calculate but they forge they have forged intellectual slaves across the globe and we can all count and communicate now. Since you can't realize not to vote for both POS parties, regardless if they put a BLACK man in office or next a WOMAN, who gives a F!! Stop playing into their hands.

    Now..

    The old high was 14,195

    Current high is 15,300?

    15,300 / 14,196 = 1.08

    Net gain of 8% in 5 years

    Not ratio the money supply..of 50%

    your short 42%, do you get it? Ok fine, we paid out 50% of it in entitle programs. we are still short 21%, you an I both know if the IRS were to put out a chart of gross wealth of each and every Senator and Congressmen (both POS), not how much they claimed on their taxes but their bank accounts you would ask your children to come back from the armed forces and in foreign soil and start our own militias to free us from the FINANCIAL TERRORIST in office.(perhaps one of our sons and daughters will are gifted in the world of boolean searches and algorithms will expose them, for the sake of their grandparents and children.)

    We should be looking to encircle Congress and start removing them quickly and with prejudice!!!

    Please share such topics of conversation with other, they collude upon the lies and you shall collude upon the truth. This is how you justify overthrowing this current political regime that has continued to fail the US Citizen continuously.

    The MATH NEVER LIES, even they can not manipulate it.

    Why isn't the media presenting such truths instead they are all excited about getting only 8% of the 42% which would bring us back to EQUILIBRIUM, NOT A NET GAIN.

    Mr. President please post this to doors of Congress!

  • Team that has failed you and you keep voting them back.

    Philip Urso Chairman of the Board
    Jeffrey M. Thompson President, Chief Executive Officer, Director
    Joseph P. Hernon Chief Financial Officer, Principal Accounting Officer, Principal Financial Officer
    William John Bush CPA Independent Director
    Howard L. Haronian M.D. Independent Director
    Paul Koehler Independent Director

    Are the playing the game as follows?

    a. driver pps down
    b. they load up on shares
    c. current shareholders get the shaft when, wink wink a hostile take over comes in
    d. the insiders make a killing at the expense of the share holders
    e. some BOD end up on the pay roll as Independent Directors..hahahhaha!! biggest #$%$ title..help us make money and we will cut you out a regular check, deal? now lets go F the long time share holder.

    They call stealing your money, "the game"; you take it like good boys. Visit them during dinner and hand them a ski mask and asked to be pistol whipped to get the entire experience, ask their children to watch mommy and daddy work and tell them to feel free to post to FB.

    Then hide behind the forward looking statement clause when they send the lawyers in, welcome to the SHAFT.

    Phillip and Jeff nice job, will pray you get cancer soon.

    Please share such topics of conversation at the diner table.

  • Reply to

    Truth for you retirees

    by jforuus May 17, 2013 11:18 PM
    jforuus jforuus May 19, 2013 11:16 PM Flag

    I do know the STATE OF NEW JERSEY COMMON PENSION FUND B needs to start re-thinking who they reinvest with.

  • The BOD is either inept or just doesn't care if the shareholders make money.

    Over $5M in options to the upper management?

    Are you kidding me and then you fleece the shareholders another 60% in pps?

    Jupiter Asset Management clearly failed their investors. Eddie Bonham Carter do you know what your doing, we get it your sister was in the last Terminator, that qualifies you to fail your investors. Roberts which one of you is responsible and should be given the axe? Someone take responsibility. Nice buy on HP...lol.#$%$.

    Frontier Capital Management Co. LLC clearly failed their investors. Michael A. Cavaretta can you and your boy Teichner, Duncan, Colgan and Novak spend less time on the green and more time not loosing your investors money. just saying. Fab team of 17 who is the CIO? Lets start by asking him to show up to a meeting and expalin himself? Club 99 Summer Street needs to get it together.

    Vanguard Group Inc clearly failed their investors. Did you completely sell out? O'malley and company.. PBF energy? Is that the next play? moved on from AMRC?

  • You finished selling and now your buying?

    I like the sound-byte...

    "We are very confident about the improving market conditions in few of our regions, as well as continued growth in our all other offerings. These are expected to be the growth drivers for the near-term. We are also very confident about the medium to long-term pipeline development, as shown by the continued increase in awarded projects. Where we are cautiously optimistic near term, is the select areas where we continue to see softness in the awarded project conversion rates. The varying conversion rates at the local level lead us to believe that overall market conditions will improve gradually over time. We continue to believe, however, that energy efficiency represents a large growth opportunity over the long-term. We are excited about our own growth or potential within this market opportunity, given our leadership role, as well as our current pipeline development. As a result, we are very optimistic about the long-term fundamentals of our busines"

    What you have to remember as an investor, when you go to sue them in the courts they hide behind that standard forward looking clause.

    How much should you trust what they say, ummn..not very much at all.

    If a billionaire like Carl Berg can mis-lead you and then hide behind that forward looking statement, your pretty much F'd when it comes to AMRC.

    I know the entire BOD are saints..hahahha!

    Please share such topics of conversation at the dinner table with others.

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