I would also like to know who is in charge of the high-speed trading. 5-6 trades of 100 per second are seen on the exchange. For hours at a time. Those are not people but market makers and their equipment moving shares around for some reason. This tech can create markets based on how they are setup and triggered to trade.
I do think some are but he seems to think that big banks are accumulating. We saw banks like JPMorgan buy 700K shares in Q3 and look where that landed them. Brokerages like Fidelity lost 4MM shares and TRP lost 2MM shares during Q3. Banks? Why would they buy a highly volatile stock unless they were day and week trading it through partnership with their underwriting friends during these orchestrated swings?
They can't because the Autodata presumes USA sales. Don't they factor in ROW (rest of world) sales? Anyway....
We hear that Tesla is going to become the "biggest automaker in the world" surpassing the likes of GM and Toyota. Unbelievable forethought based on three full quarters of selling one car model and slippage of the next model and hope that the Gen-III will have good lower cost batteries at some larger scale that it can be built for a price $10K above the competition.
Can't we just fact the fact that Tesla is a good, boutique automaker that sells a certain segment of the population a full-price car through a new means of sales? It is not going to be the biggest automaker in the world.
I think meeting a statement of "under 6000" is fairly easy to do :)
I predict slightly under 5500 for the quarter but they did crank out a healthy pipeline destined for Europe during Q3 and it may surprise up to 5700-5800.
Think about Wedbush's "analyst" saying 7000 for Q3 and you know that you can't trust anyone's opinion much these days.
Apparently, with Norway in November, it was #2 in sales of about 500. But Norway is special. It's like its own planet in terms of EV support and cost avoidance (no taxes, no tolls, no nothin')
If David Goldberg is the smartest person on the board, I'm the most honest.
heresay. Could be a lie. How can anyone believe you on an anonymous bb?
And, oh - look. They have stopped giving out Vin #s early now. I wonder why. Factory still putting out 550/week but Vin # assignment has dropped to about 350/wk.
It is highly manipulated - even people on wall street tell me this. I spend time up there...
Of course they will. Escalator up, elevator down. ER for Q4 will not be good but it will be pumped until then. It's scaring a lot of shorts to cover now. Vanguard and Fidelity didn't allow shorting yesterday. Fidelity only has 145,000 shares available today. They had up to 1.5MM a few weeks ago. For tax purposes, this is a short-shakeout and pump for various reasons including trying to close out Sr. Note conversions from Q3 bond holders. In the end, we will see more shares issued to pay off the notes, some cash burn for that as well and bagholders in February, 2014. Until then it's "TSLA to $200!!!!!" posts for weeks to come.
This is the same kind of posting that was done by dozens of pumpers during the big run up to 190. All kinds of fund managers and their minions are posting now - looks like they want to manipulate it up again.
Earlier in the thread, they were saying that there wasn't enough numbers to make them meaningful. Of course they were misinterpreted. Because they were abused from the factory itself. Giving a VIN # to European buyers in July and their cars are not built in December was for "some reason".