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Well Bunky, that means you haven't driven one. Lets talk just a sec about "pizazz" as you put it. When you do a WOT in a Volt, you get the maximum possible acceleration. It adds torque right up to the edge of tire slip (traction control)...then after the vehicle is moving, you can feel even more torque kicking in. It has plenty of "pizazz"

I don't even know how to respond to this. Western countries population is in decline. The only way they stay propped up in immigration

Bunky Bunky Bunky...so I see you have changed the subject not once but twice. If you want a political debate, that's cool...but I probably would agree more than disagree...as for faith...well I know there is something supernatural in life...doesn't take too many in depth questions to figure out we know jack about the origin of life.

Back to the subject at hand...I'm not going to read your book suggestion until you answer my question...what is your solution to the most predictable energy crisis ever? Pointing to a book without giving an answer is no answer.

Make sure you digest this too..300 mile range high power density battery pack coming soon (and it will not weigh 1/3 of the car as Teslas pack does)

To be accurate, the volt is a PHEV, not a HEV as you suggest. The point is, as a plug-in, the batteries are significant. Starting with a volt PHEV and ending up with a 200-300 mile range battery is the goal. You get to that goal in steps...not one giant leap. Check out this headline...

Report: GM still talking about 300-mile EVs with high energy density batteries
AutoblogGreen
Sebastian Blanco
Filed under: Emerging Technologies, EV/Plug-in, GM, North America

Sometimes, you have to go across the border to get the skinny on what's happening in the US. For example, did you know GM might be testing electric cars with batteries that have about three times the energy density of today's EV?

That's could be the case, since during the recent Automotive Parts Manufacturers' Association conference in Canada, The Windsor Star reporter Chris Vander Doelen spoke with J. Gary Smyth, General Motors' executive director of Global Research and Development. Smyth told Vander Doelen, "Today there are prototypes out there with 400 Watt-hours per kilogram."

We have to assume Smyth was talking about batteries made by Envia, which announced it had developed just such batteries last year (and sent along the nifty cartoon image you see above). GM invested $7 million in the company in 2011 and also made a separate licensing deal to use those advanced packs in its vehicles. While we don't know the details of what kinds of vehicles are being tested with the 400 wh/kg packs in - Smyth would not even mention the brand - but we have previously calculated that that kind of power could mean 300-mile EVs. And earlier estimates put the cost of such a car with Envia's technology at just $20,000, giving more heft to Smyth's statement to Vander Doelen that, "Innovation is exploding right now. The industry is in a period of rapid transformation."

Lol....blue you do know me so well

Lol....blue you do know me so well

Just to be clear I posted that....this new format yahoo uses forces me to pick off a list and the default is a name I do not use...my apologies.

Ok Webbie...do the math....

Approx. 1.6 Trillion known reserves including the sand and shale mentioned....90 mbd consumed by world market....that's like 17777 days = 48 years....now 90 mbd is growing...so I'd say about 40 years

Well not to jump into this conversation, but now I must...3 points make a line? Well I suppose that CAN be true...but last I checked 2 points on a line can define where a 3rd point on that line lies.

A shaft is like a line...it requires but 2 points to support that shaft. 3 points creates an over constrained condition. I am pretty sure that (x1,y1) and (x2, y2)....aka 2 points.....makes y = (y2-y1)/(x2-x1)x + b....the equation of a line using put 2 points....

GMI educated....well really that's like 6th grade to be honest...;)

"Good, the conversations here will take on a much higher plane (that's a surface designated by THREE points, unlike a line)."...

LMAO....I do so enjoy your post

Seriously...everyone who slams a volt...pease tell me your solution to oil being gone in 40 years...I'd be interested in your solutions

"The truth is that the Volt is a "wishful thinking, politically correct" product that is a total failure, particularly if its costs are truly amortized. Like many liberal cause-products, they don't work in the real world"

Really? The car is an engineering marvel with a 93% customer sat rating 2 years running. How is that a total failure? Liberal cause? I didn't realize a mere machine could be right or left. We have just over 40 years left of oil...what is your solution sir?

Huh? How are you being forced to buy a GM product?

Your right, you said nothing about advancing the technology...I did. This volt technology is an investment in the future. This technology will show up elsewhere and eventually pay dividends. Looking at the volt and saying it is losing money is short term quarterly thinking and it is not strategic.

Wow,are you in marketing? I wonder why Detroit is hiring 35,000 now...must be cuz all those missed sales.

You are simple wrong. But this is an old argument about investing in technology or the future that I've has at nauseum. Not to mention that the price will fall next year by thousands...what place will a 35K or less volt be in?

Tesla shares are "someday" shares....I think I would be a shorter today. I like em long term...at least til a new battery comes out and then who will need a Tesla?

Well a good EV has a grille...less it be air cooled and that ain't cool. I like em liquid cooled...higher power density possible if you have a grille.

Webbie Webbie Webbie....lol...some things don't change. The price drop in 2014 is due to redesign.